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[Ali]

and defintely not a GnR song which these peoples shouldn't be playing in the first place.

And why fucken not?? They were part of that legacy - they have every right in the world to play that song.?

I don't have a problem with VR doing GNR songs, I have a problem with Weiland singing GNR songs, he sounds horrible on them. I really enjoyed hearing Duff, Matt and Slash play Patience again when I saw them in concert but Weiland absolutely ruined it when he tried to sing the end of it, horrible. Maybe they should just do instrumental versions or let Duff sing them instead.

I always thought that Axl's great range allowed for these dynamics that created dramatic tension within the song.  Weiland doesn't have that range, so the songs lose some of their punch.

Of the three GN'R songs they do, "Patience" is the worst fit for Scott's voice.

Ali

[CSS]

I wish that they'd do more Stone Temple Pilots material.

Why? Because it sounds absolutely top-notch... And more songs from (both) 'Contraband' and 'Libertad' wouldn't hurt either.

I'm not saying that their try at the GN'R songs are that bad, but it just doesn't seem to fit in there.

[lynn1961]

I know some of you want VR to keep playing GN'R songs because it reminds you of the old days which will never come back no matter how much you wish. I wonder how many VR fans would like to see them play more GN'R songs or more of their own songs....



/jarmo

That's not it.  I don't feel that way.  They play more of their own songs, and that's what I like to see.  I don't go to see VR because it reminds me of the old days.  A few songs thrown in, from either previous band...so what?  That's great, too! 

[lynn1961]

and defintely not a GnR song which these peoples shouldn't be playing in the first place.

And why fucken not?? They were part of that legacy - they have every right in the world to play that song.?

I don't have a problem with VR doing GNR songs, I have a problem with Weiland singing GNR songs, he sounds horrible on them. I really enjoyed hearing Duff, Matt and Slash play Patience again when I saw them in concert but Weiland absolutely ruined it when he tried to sing the end of it, horrible. Maybe they should just do instrumental versions or let Duff sing them instead.

I always thought that Axl's great range allowed for these dynamics that created dramatic tension within the song.? Weiland doesn't have that range, so the songs lose some of their punch.

Of the three GN'R songs they do, "Patience" is the worst fit for Scott's voice.

Ali

Personally, I thought VR, with Scott, did a great version of Patience.? (thank God I'm only on the internet, so I'm far enough away not to receive a slap in the face for that comment!? ?? ?)?

[Ali]

and defintely not a GnR song which these peoples shouldn't be playing in the first place.

And why fucken not?? They were part of that legacy - they have every right in the world to play that song.?

I don't have a problem with VR doing GNR songs, I have a problem with Weiland singing GNR songs, he sounds horrible on them. I really enjoyed hearing Duff, Matt and Slash play Patience again when I saw them in concert but Weiland absolutely ruined it when he tried to sing the end of it, horrible. Maybe they should just do instrumental versions or let Duff sing them instead.

I always thought that Axl's great range allowed for these dynamics that created dramatic tension within the song.? Weiland doesn't have that range, so the songs lose some of their punch.

Of the three GN'R songs they do, "Patience" is the worst fit for Scott's voice.

Ali

Personally, I thought VR, with Scott, did a great version of Patience.? (thank God I'm only on the internet, so I'm far enough away not to receive a slap in the face for that comment!? ?? ?)?

I think the band sounded great, but the fact is that Scott does not have the range to do the outtro of the song.  That's the most dramatic and impactful part of that song so when you can't do that right it just takes away from the impact of the whole song.

Ali

[Butch Français]

the whole idea of a singer covering a song, is to do it in their own way. Scott probably wouldn't sing it like Axl even if he did have Axl's range.
does Axl sound like McCartney on LALD, or like Dylan on KOHD?
he has sounded great on all GNR songs Ive heard VR do.

[Ali]

the whole idea of a singer covering a song, is to do it in their own way. Scott probably wouldn't sing it like Axl even if he did have Axl's range.
does Axl sound like McCartney on LALD, or like Dylan on KOHD?
he has sounded great on all GNR songs Ive heard VR do.

I understand that.

But, still, the point is that Scott's lack of range doesn't allow for creating the kind of dynamics that Axl did in the songs.  The songs fall a little flat without that.

Scott can do it his way, but I'm saying his way isn't as good as the originals.  At least, on "Patience".

Ali

[NicoRourke]

He can do Brownstone allright because it suits his range. He can almost do It's So Easy, but there's the trick of the final part. Same for Patience.

I'd love him to try a take on any of the new songs of GN'R though, he would be ridiculous

He's just a crappy singer and frontman, and he will always be way behind Axl.

[darth monkey]

Maybe some of the parts of some of the GNR covers don't sound vocally as good as if Axl was singing it but musically they sound amazing. I do agree that Axl has more range and is better suited for certain songs...but at the same time can you imagine what Axl would sound like on Set me Free?

[Falcon]

but at the same time can you imagine what Axl would sound like on Set me Free?

Or Sex Type Thing, Interstate Love Song, Sour Girl etc.

That said, if Axl were in a band with the Deleo's I'd have absolutely no problem with him/them giving a go at any song from their back catalog.

[Ali]

Maybe some of the parts of some of the GNR covers don't sound vocally as good as if Axl was singing it but musically they sound amazing. I do agree that Axl has more range and is better suited for certain songs...but at the same time can you imagine what Axl would sound like on Set me Free?

I think if you gave Axl that riff from Slash, he would do something amazing with it.  His track record with the vocals he's written and recorded over Slash riffs speaks for itself.

Ali

[darth monkey]

True, but he would not have used the same vocal range as Scott did which was kind of my point. Likewise I'm sure Scott would have come up with a different vocal arrangement on such songs as Patience that better suit him. I believe we were talking about covering a song as is.

[Ali]

True, but he would not have used the same vocal range as Scott did which was kind of my point. Likewise I'm sure Scott would have come up with a different vocal arrangement on such songs as Patience that better suit him. I believe we were talking about covering a song as is.

Axl has the range to cover the vocal parts in "Set Me Free", no doubt.

Ali

[darth monkey]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

[Ali]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Well, then you haven't been listening very closely to GN'R, man.  Axl is full-on baritone, I am a full-on baritone and I can handle "Set Me Free" easily.  Listen to Axl's vocal harmony on "Breakdown" and you'll know what I am talking about.

Ali

[darkdays_01]

I think VR's version of Patience is pretty good. Weiland does a great job on Brownstone aswell. Although i would prefer Duff singing It's So Easy, He should have sung that song in GNR aswell imo. VR are a spotty live band when they are having a bad night it is pretty bad but man when they are on they are fucking smokin'.

I dont know what the hell the problem with Weiland singing the Guns songs are, it isnt any different than whats going on in "Guns" with the music. I am not even gonna get started on the BV's.  Although i do wish they would do more STP songs, if anything just to not hear the Axl swingers bitch.

As for Axl doing Set Me Free, he could pull that off. I have thought about that before, if you listen to parts of Set Me Free some of the vocals are quite similar to Axl's style.

[NicoRourke]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Is this a joke ? Do you own a GN'R album ?

From down low to high pitched, Axl's range is like a fucking piano.

[Butch Français]

hmmmm....no I don't think so. Or at least he has never demonstrated that he can go that low.

Is this a joke ? Do you own a GN'R album ?

From down low to high pitched, Axl's range is like a fucking piano.

not live. on most live recordings of ISE, I can't even hear him. I mainly hear Tommy (I think) on live recordings from this lineup, and Duff from the old lineup. he doesn't have a very prominent lower range.

[darth monkey]

I think the joke on this board is how great everyone thinks Axl is and that he can do anything. I'll get slaughtered for that but I don't really care. I'm an Axl fan he is a huge tallent but he's a person just like anyone else and doesn't deserve the God-like status that some of you give him. And as was just said Axl's range in the studio and live are two seperate things, and don't start to question me as to have I heard or listened to any of the material. I have all the albums and a ton of bootlegs and have seen them live.
Everyone sounds slightly different and I just don't see Axl pulling off Set Me Free as Scott did, just the way Axl does the end of Patience different than Scott. Vocalists are individuals and they are different, if they weren't music wouldn't be too exciting.

[NicoRourke]

I'm not saying Axl is God. I don't give a fuck about that shit.

But yeah, I say that he's an amzing singer / songwritter / performer etc. He's a great musician and vocalist.

And yes, He sounds a little different live than from the studio but that's normal because studio is a controlled environement and with live performances there's too many variable for the sound / voice to be 100% like the studio track. But still, what he does in the studio he can reproduce live.

Depending on the boot' there's versions of ISO where you can hear is lower parts crystal clear.

Weiland can't. Not even with a megaphone.