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DevilHatesALoser
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Re: Church learns vet was gay, cancels memorial
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August 13, 2007, 10:07:14 PM »
Quote from: SLC Alter-ego #6.6 on August 13, 2007, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: SLC's minion on August 13, 2007, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Walter O'Dim on August 13, 2007, 10:17:14 AM
Ok, two people have asserted this act as hypocritical, but have failed to justify that.
I not going to waste my time digging the passages up, but you know, all thoses verses in the NT about love, forbearance, humility, love thy neighbor, turn the cheek, ect ...
Sorta like, let they with no sin cast the first stone.
If you guys followed that this forum would be silent.
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Re: Church learns vet was gay, cancels memorial
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August 13, 2007, 10:08:59 PM »
Quote from: Walter O'Dim on August 13, 2007, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: SLC Alter-ego #6.6 on August 13, 2007, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: SLC's minion on August 13, 2007, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Walter O'Dim on August 13, 2007, 10:17:14 AM
Ok, two people have asserted this act as hypocritical, but have failed to justify that.
I not going to waste my time digging the passages up, but you know, all thoses verses in the NT about love, forbearance, humility, love thy neighbor, turn the cheek, ect ...
Sorta like, let they with no sin cast the first stone.
If you guys followed that this forum would be silent.
what about you , sir? Are you without sin?
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Re: Church learns vet was gay, cancels memorial
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August 13, 2007, 10:26:28 PM »
The arguments stated have skewed the facts that were mentioned in the original article.
The article states that he was not a member of the church, but he was a janitor there. Because he worked for the church, the church offered (the family did not request) to hold his service there. The man could not have been "openly gay" otherwise the church would not have offered in the first place. The family states in the article that the photos were family photos and no pictures showed men kissing or hugging.
He was good enough to hire. He was good enough to keep his employment (chances are his emergency contact on his work info was his life partner). He was a good enough man for the church to offer funeral services to.
I would be surprised if absolutely no one in the church (employer part) knew of his orientation- a life partner means a commited relationship, not a boyfriend du jour. I'm sure it was a case of Don't Ask/Don't Tell and turn a blind eye.
It was ok to have this man (who happened to be homosexual) clean the sanctuary and altar, but it would be an abomination to have the same man's casket rest there? Yes, it is a little hypocritical.
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Learn to read. The departed was a brother of the janitor who worked there.
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Quote from: Walter O'Dim on August 13, 2007, 10:34:01 PM
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Learn to read. The departed was a brother of the janitor who worked there.
"learn to read"?!?!?. Thats not very Christian of you....
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Re: Church learns vet was gay, cancels memorial
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August 14, 2007, 03:35:23 AM »
The church's website does list the brother, Lee, as the janitor (darn, I really liked my argument too- time to brush up on the reading skills as Walter so charitably suggested). As with any story, the church lists a different reason for cancelling the memorial:
"The issue was not whether we would hold a memorial service for someone in a lifestyle of sin. We have assisted many families in this regard. The issue was whether we would allow an openly homosexual service that celebrated and emphasized homosexuality in our church. We love the homosexual, but cannot condone the homosexual lifestyle. We could not allow homosexuality to be glorified in this house of worship. "
Memorializing the man was not the problem. The church objected to the style of the service. This is the same as supporting the troops, but not the war. It is unfortunate that the decision was made at the last moment.
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Quote from: WOJL on August 14, 2007, 03:35:23 AM
"The issue was not whether we would hold a memorial service for someone in a lifestyle of sin. We have assisted many families in this regard. The issue was whether we would allow an openly homosexual service that celebrated and emphasized homosexuality in our church. We love the homosexual, but cannot condone the homosexual lifestyle. We could not allow homosexuality to be glorified in this house of worship. "
"Wright called the church?s claim about the pictures ?a bold-faced lie.? She said she provided numerous family pictures of Sinclair, including some with his partner, but said none showed men kissing or hugging."
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Re: Church learns vet was gay, cancels memorial
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Quote from: WOJL on August 14, 2007, 03:35:23 AM
This is the same as supporting the troops, but not the war.
No, it's like supporting the war but snubbing the Navy.
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Quote from: 25 on August 15, 2007, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: WOJL on August 14, 2007, 03:35:23 AM
This is the same as supporting the troops, but not the war.
No, it's like supporting the war but snubbing the Navy.?
wow havent seen you in ages!...... just get out of rehab?
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