Ignorance is Bliss

[DevilHatesALoser]

Did you ever consider/realize how much easier it is to forcefully dismiss knowledge because there's nothing you can do about it?  I was driving to work the other day and saw a bunch of feathers flying out of the semi.  I thought, no way could that be chickens or something.  Sure as shit when I got up to the truck, I saw that this thing was packed with live chickens, I mean crammed full.  Now I'm no expert, but I have to believe that a cold blooded animal exposed to 60 mph winds in 65 degree weather isn't too happy.  I just got done watching Fast Food Nation and saw for the first time how cattle is slaughtered.  Now I'm not an idiot or naieve enough to have not known how the process worked before, but actually seeing it is a whole new game. 

I can rationalize and justify the conditions all I want, but that doesn't change the feeling that I know this is wrong.  My question is, what do you do about it?  Becoming a vegan isn't an option for me.  My lifestyle and taste in food just wouldn't make that possible.  I don't have the time or money to buy special meat that is allowed to roam free.  I know I'll just write off most of this and continue to look the other way. 

I don't know exatcly where I'm going with this, but I've realized there's alot of fucked up things going on out there.  I truly feel like my only viable option is to turn a blind eye to it all.

[Bill 213]

Grab a musket, take a ride on the Oregon Trail and start hunting your own food.

[GNRreunioneventually]

I was driving to work the other day and saw a bunch of feathers flying out of the semi.? I thought, no way could that be chickens or something.? Sure as shit when I got up to the truck, I saw that this thing was packed with live chickens, I mean crammed full.? Now I'm no expert, but I have to believe that a cold blooded animal exposed to 60 mph winds in 65 degree weather isn't too happy.?

i can just about picture that sight

untill that fateful ride to the slaughter house pigs cows chickens ect are the happiest animals on earth. But when that ride comes they're like WHAT THE FUCK for about 2 or 3 hours then they're on a burger or a sandwich.

but think about it, animals on a farm. All they do is eat, sleep, fuck, make noice and shit. Then they role around in that shit. And the chickens lay eggs thats like taking the best shit of your life over and over again.

if you ask me, farm animals got it pretty damn easy

[DevilHatesALoser]

There's alot of discussion on the topic.  Can a creature be unhappy if they don't know what happiness is?  Are chickens capable of being happy?  Sure they can experience pleasure and pain, but to what extent do they consider being crammed together great discomfort?  Cows don't really exist in nature and serve no purpose other than a source of food.  So many of those questions beg their own questions and it's a never ending cycle.

It's not a simple situation and most people (including myself) will just write it off.  But where do you draw the line (for any issue) and say enough is enough?  Ecspecially when your own efforts would amount to nothing more than a spit in the ocean.

[SLCPUNK]

Do lobsters feel pain when I boil them?

[stolat]

Yes, they do.

That's why the water has to be really hot so it all happens quickly.

[GNRreunioneventually]

There's alot of discussion on the topic.

not really ...........

Can a creature be unhappy if they don't know what happiness is? Are chickens capable of being happy?

who cares you eat them and hopefully not alive so what does it matter?

Cows don't really exist in nature and serve no purpose other than a source of food.

yes they exist because anything you can smell, see, or taste is in existence. and they can also serve as a good jacket or baseball glove

It's not a simple situation and most people (including myself) will just write it off. But where do you draw the line (for any issue) and say enough is enough?

if you, as you said, "wrote it off" then you wouldn't have started this thread.

and finally i don't think i have a line on subjects like these. Its kinda like if something tastes good i'll eat it, if something is funny i'll laugh, and if i see some one speak out against what i think is funny or tastes good i'll tell them not to watch the TV show that offends them and to not eat the thing that tastes good to me and to just let it go.

[Genesis]

Do lobsters feel pain when I boil them?

I think the real question is: Do you care if lobsters feel pain when you boil them?

[Bill 213]

I think this picture can sum this whole thing up.

[stolat]

Oh, poor pete.

Laughed at first  and my next thought was, yes it could be Pete! 

[GNRreunioneventually]

omg, bill213.5, that was funny as hell man

[SLCPUNK]

Do lobsters feel pain when I boil them?

I think the real question is: Do you care if lobsters feel pain when you boil them?

Not really.

omg, bill213.5, that was funny as hell man

lol, holy shit.

[Lisa]

Yes, they do.

That's why the water has to be really hot so it all happens quickly.

no they  DO NOT ...it is air escaping from the shell   they do not have a brain as we know them to be and cannot snse physical pain.

[stolat]

Yes, they do.

That's why the water has to be really hot so it all happens quickly.

no they? DO NOT ...it is air escaping from the shell ? they do not have a brain as we know them to be and cannot snse physical pain.

Huh? it is the air escaping from the shell?

[SLCPUNK]

http://www.tennmax.com/WST/Maine2003/lobsters.htm

[stolat]

Thanks Pharmo! Wow Lobsters are truly awesome creatures! 

[SLCPUNK]

As far as lobsters are concerned, that is actually an interesting read.

[stolat]

Yes, they are quite sophisticated creatures!

[Grouse]

no brain, no pain I guess...

[fuckin crazy]

I love crustaceans ... especially with butter.