Help on Rocket Queen & Patience

[Lord Kayoss]

Isn't it crazy, how many versions of the story are out there?? When Axl retires a full fledged biography written by Axl himself would be such a great money making project for him, and even better for all of us who have wondered about so much for so long!!!!

Now that, I would buy.

[keithos27]

yeah but who knows if a) that would ever happen and b) how much does he actually remembe (correctly at that!).

would be cool to get a video documentary or something... man that would be sweet!

[Oh My Choking Soul]

I always loved this pic of Axl & Erin.

[keithos27]

can't see it

[Oh My Choking Soul]

linky:

http://hem.passagen.se/snoqalf/ph-axl006.gif

[oldgunsfan]

theres actually a story on Rocket Queen published in the recent Rolling Stone I believe about Rocket Queen.

Patience was primarily an Izzy song.? Slash and Duff didn't want to do it.

And Used to lover Her was about Izzy's dog

[stolat]

- Barbi's sister had a? motorycycle called "Rocket Queen" = the beginning
- band called "Rocket Queen" (later "Hardley Dangerous") <-- Barbi wrote some lyrics for them
- GN'R had interest in those special RQ ones (probably bought copyrights and stuff) and edited lyrics, the song in general etc. so Barbi's lyrics "Here I am Your Rocket Queen" (Rocket Queen the motorcycle) was changed by GN'R to "Here I am, and you're a Rocket Queen" (= no motorcycle but some girl) and Barbi simply liked how they changed it.

sounds pretty clear to me?

(by the way Barbi WAS in contact with GN'R back then)

  Sounds abit garbled to me!

Seriously, the Barbi stuff is simply a distortion of the truth. Believe me, at the time Axl would have done nothing to jepardize his relationship with other band members by sleeping with another's ex, let alone one of Steven's ex's. The band was way too important to him!

There is a very funny story about the Rocket Queen bicycle (NOT motorbike). I have a very distinct childhood memory about it. I would love to share the story with y'all someday however, there are about 5 or 6 other people involved............and I also would like to wait until things settle down on this forum.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Believe me, at the time Axl would have done nothing to jepardize his relationship with other band members by sleeping with another's ex, let alone one of Steven's ex's.

I'm pretty sure it was Steven's g/f. I don't think GNR were particularly sensitive people back in the day.

[stolat]

Believe me, at the time Axl would have done nothing to jepardize his relationship with other band members by sleeping with another's ex, let alone one of Steven's ex's.

I'm pretty sure it was Steven's g/f. I don't think GNR were particularly sensitive people back in the day.

That's if you want to believe Barbi's distortion of the truth in the first place.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

Believe me, at the time Axl would have done nothing to jepardize his relationship with other band members by sleeping with another's ex, let alone one of Steven's ex's.

I'm pretty sure it was Steven's g/f. I don't think GNR were particularly sensitive people back in the day.

That's if you want to believe Barbi's distortion of the truth in the first place.

Barbi was someone else. The name of Steven's girlfriend was Adriana Smith.

[stolat]

some facts about "Rocket Queen" from August 2004, official message board/blog from Barbi Von Greif www.barbivongreif.com (this site now is offline though)


quote from a fan question:

"[.....]Before I heard about you, I read on a site(gnrinfo.tk) that Axl had written(or dedicated)
the lyrics of RocketQueen to a special girl that had been a friend of the band and that had a band named RocketQueen. I've never heard of anyone other
than Axl writing Novemeber Rain(I read Tracii Guns mentioning Axl working on it way back in 85' or 86') but I could be misinformed. Some of the members
on the forum I freguent asked if you helped write the lyrics or were the woman who was moaning in the background during the middle of the Rocketqueen.
If you or any of your fans can answer these questions I've raised that would be awesome! Thanks again. Keep on being an artist cause your style rocks!
Later"


quote/reply from "Barbi Von Greif":

"[....]Adriana did the moans..( dancer whom was dating Steven and I think she did a great job, don't you?)
My sister had a motorcycle called the RocketQueen when I was little which is where the name started. I wrote a version for the band Rocket Queen
which used my material and later morphed into the girl band Hardley Dangerous. The song itself was later morphed into the one you now know and I
think they did a #@*%!ing great job on it to be honest. ( Example "Here I am Your Rocket Queen" was changed to "Here I am, and you're a Rocket Queen" )
I'm not the chick in the studio! I wrote at home!"

2 pics from Barbi:

Yeh, no all this ^ including the photos is not true. No-one had straight hair in the 80s.

[Lolita]

Yeh, no all this ^ including the photos is not true. No-one had straight hair in the 80s.

Robin Wright Penn had, 

[Limulus]

stolat,
i wrote exact this: "some facts about "Rocket Queen" from August 2004, official message board/blog from Barbi Von Greif".
this is HER story about it, you surely will get a different story from everybody else being involved. however unlike many others at least she was telling HER story openly on her board/blog.

and those 2 pics are from 200+ (grabbed them from her official site) not from the 80s.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

- Barbi's sister had a  motorycycle called "Rocket Queen" = the beginning
- band called "Rocket Queen" (later "Hardley Dangerous") <-- Barbi wrote some lyrics for them
- GN'R had interest in those special RQ ones (probably bought copyrights and stuff) and edited lyrics, the song in general etc. so Barbi's lyrics "Here I am Your Rocket Queen" (Rocket Queen the motorcycle) was changed by GN'R to "Here I am, and you're a Rocket Queen" (= no motorcycle but some girl) and Barbi simply liked how they changed it.

sounds pretty clear to me?

(by the way Barbi WAS in contact with GN'R back then)

  Sounds abit garbled to me!

Seriously, the Barbi stuff is simply a distortion of the truth. Believe me, at the time Axl would have done nothing to jepardize his relationship with other band members by sleeping with another's ex, let alone one of Steven's ex's. The band was way too important to him!

There is a very funny story about the Rocket Queen bicycle (NOT motorbike). I have a very distinct childhood memory about it. I would love to share the story with y'all someday however, there are about 5 or 6 other people involved............and I also would like to wait until things settle down on this forum.

You're confused. Rocket Queen was inspired by Barbi, the lyrics are about her. The girl Axl fucked for the sex noises in the song is a different girl. That is Adrianna Smith, which was Steven's girl or ex-girl at the time. Two totally different people.

[stolat]

No I am not confused.

Rocket Queen has nothing to do with Barbi.



OK, I will obviously edit this post, as jarmo was seeking some clarification. ^

The information about Rocket Queen that Limulus has taken from the now non-existant website www.barbivongrief.com is not correct. Whoever was posing as Barbi on that website has taken the story and changed some facts.

[jarmo]

No I am not confused.

Rocket Queen has nothing to do with Barbi.

I think you're very confused.

Look in your AFD booklet in the thank yous: Barbi (Rocket Queen) Von Grief is thanked.




/jarmo

[stolat]

Ok, she is thanked.......... doesn't say for what in particular.......

But who is she really??

Someone has taken the story about Rocket Queen, called themself Barbi and changed the story to a sister's motorbike. She has posted the story on a website that no longer exists. So the Barbi that I refer to as having nothing to do with Rocket Queen is the one that has posted that story on the website that another poster has referred to in this thread. According to that Barbi the story is about a sister and a motorbike......

There is a book where Axl is quoted as saying that Rocket Queen has to do with a bicycle and a brother.......

[daviebuckethead]

No I am not confused.

Rocket Queen has nothing to do with Barbi.

I think you're very confused.

Look in your AFD booklet in the thank yous: Barbi (Rocket Queen) Von Grief is thanked.




/jarmo

Jarmo, you just made my day!


thatdude always thinks he is right, if you say white, he'll say black!

all hail the fool who did not know!

read the booklet next boyo!
 

[stolat]

I think that you were too quick to reply!

Read the post above yours for the clarification.

[daviebuckethead]

yeah, that edit post function is really great isn't it 

is that the first time you have used it, or do you often change your posts to change what you first said?