Eddie Trunk Responds - PLEASE STOP THE GN'R INSANITY!!!!

[AxlsMainMan]

Personally, I think its getting a bit late in the year for the release of the album, or even another tour to be organized.

As far as I know, the albums coming out this year haven't even been announced yet.

So how can it be too late?

We don't know what the record companies are releasing in September, October, November or December yet.

It seems like they're taking a break right now. Lots of albums were released in the spring and summer until a few weeks ago. I guess they'll start releasing lots of new albums in September.

Even Billboard lists albums coming out during the first week of September, but nothing past that: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/releases/index.jsp




/jarmo

Well, if we take into account what Axl said regarding "2 months of proper promotion" for the album in his letter, then that takes us to the begining of October as far as a release date goes, Jarmo.

At the moment, there is no official single on the airwaves, no music video in rotation, etc.

The band also just survived an earthquake and a typhoon in Japan, so Im sure it goes without saying that all the bandmembers are going to want some down time with their friends and family before they return to business arrangements, or work on the album.

Not to mention that it is still Summer time, so we can only fathom how many executives and managers at Universal are on holidays for the next several weeks, which could also contribute to work on the album being halted, if only temporarily.

For me, its just to quiet to get my hopes up for possible release sometime this Fall, Jarmo.

And as far as touring for the remainder of this year goes, unless the band has keep all their future dates underwraps, there isn't a peep about any upcoming shows out there right now, not to mention that its certainly to late in the year to hope for a multitude of venues to be vacant since concerts booked months ago are already scheduled to go down, as well as hockey and basketball seasons? starting in a few weeks.

In conclusion, and as I said in my original post, I think it would be best if the band didn't stress themselves out over a release this year, or a brand new tour this year, and instead just take their time with everything, and start from scratch in 'O8 with a World Tour in support of a brand new album

Wow, that sure is alot of assumptions.

this is my favorite...

"The band also just survived an earthquake and a typhoon in Japan, so Im sure it goes without saying that all the bandmembers are going to want some down time"

Are you really sure it goes without saying, I know I'm not so sure.

Your telling me that if your husband, the father of your children went through an earthquake and a typhoon, your not going to want to spend some quality time with them before they head back to the office indefinately?

So no, thats not really an assumption, but rather, a logical conclusion..

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Personally, I think its getting a bit late in the year for the release of the album, or even another tour to be organized.

As far as I know, the albums coming out this year haven't even been announced yet.

So how can it be too late?

We don't know what the record companies are releasing in September, October, November or December yet.

It seems like they're taking a break right now. Lots of albums were released in the spring and summer until a few weeks ago. I guess they'll start releasing lots of new albums in September.

Even Billboard lists albums coming out during the first week of September, but nothing past that: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/releases/index.jsp




/jarmo

Well, if we take into account what Axl said regarding "2 months of proper promotion" for the album in his letter, then that takes us to the begining of October as far as a release date goes, Jarmo.

At the moment, there is no official single on the airwaves, no music video in rotation, etc.

The band also just survived an earthquake and a typhoon in Japan, so Im sure it goes without saying that all the bandmembers are going to want some down time with their friends and family before they return to business arrangements, or work on the album.

Not to mention that it is still Summer time, so we can only fathom how many executives and managers at Universal are on holidays for the next several weeks, which could also contribute to work on the album being halted, if only temporarily.

For me, its just to quiet to get my hopes up for possible release sometime this Fall, Jarmo.

And as far as touring for the remainder of this year goes, unless the band has keep all their future dates underwraps, there isn't a peep about any upcoming shows out there right now, not to mention that its certainly to late in the year to hope for a multitude of venues to be vacant since concerts booked months ago are already scheduled to go down, as well as hockey and basketball seasons? starting in a few weeks.

In conclusion, and as I said in my original post, I think it would be best if the band didn't stress themselves out over a release this year, or a brand new tour this year, and instead just take their time with everything, and start from scratch in 'O8 with a World Tour in support of a brand new album

Wow, that sure is alot of assumptions.

this is my favorite...

"The band also just survived an earthquake and a typhoon in Japan, so Im sure it goes without saying that all the bandmembers are going to want some down time"

Are you really sure it goes without saying, I know I'm not so sure.

Your telling me that if your husband, the father of your children went through an earthquake and a typhoon, your not going to want to spend some quality time with them before they head back to the office indefinately?

So no, thats not really an assumption, but rather, a logical conclusion..

You're speaking out of turn. Truth is, you don't know anything about the band, thier loved ones and thier relationships. I choose not to compare them to my own or pressume they are similar... or for that matter how demanding the album's release will be on them.

[CheapJon]

Guys!    didn't you read what eddie trunk said? PLEASE STOP THE GN'R INSANITY!!!!

[AxlsMainMan]

I dont know anything about the bandmembers, but it sure wouldn't be a social norm not to worry about someone who went through an earthquake and typhoon, now would it?

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Guys!? ? didn't you read what eddie trunk said? PLEASE STOP THE GN'R INSANITY!!!!

I will FURTHER the INSANITY. 

You're right, and this argument is pointless.

[IFINGLOVEGNR]

Hey this thread is supposed to be about me,

First you guys claim i'm starting rumors, and you start bashing me,

But Eddie Did tell me he thinks its probably never coming out

why is everyone ignoring me now

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Hey this thread is supposed to be about me,

First you guys claim i'm starting rumors, and you start bashing me,

But Eddie Did tell me he thinks its probably never coming out

why is everyone ignoring me now

ROFL!!!... you jerk.

[GnR-NOW]

I don't think its ever coming out either.  But who really gives a fuck.  It's nothing we can control.  I love the new songs. So fuck it .... as long as they tour, I'll go regardless of a new album or not.  I'm sure we'll eventually get an update at some point and if not then I'm sure we'll all be alright anyway.

[jarmo]

Hey this thread is supposed to be about me,

First you guys claim i'm starting rumors, and you start bashing me,

But Eddie Did tell me he thinks its probably never coming out

why is everyone ignoring me now

Probably because your story was made into something it's not. Which is hardly surprising considering the mentality of certain GN'R fans.

And what do you think the record company is going to do once they've received the finished album?

Sit on it?

Twiddle their thumbs?

No, of course not.

They're going to promote it.

That is, afterall, how they incite people to purchase albums, let alone, virtually any product.

What exactly is it that you know about what's going on at GN'R's record company?

You're making a shitload of assumptions to prove your non-existent point.




/jarmo

[AxlsMainMan]

And you're avoiding a question (but that's typical)

If promotion doesn't commence once the album has been turned in, or doesn't happen during the 2 months it takes to get the album to the shelves, then what exactly does happen during that 2 month span, Jarmo?

[JMack]

Stop the insanity.......Maybe there will be a new C.D. maybe not. ?Maybe their just waiting for minor details or maybe every thing hinges on MORE COW BELL! ? This thread went from please stop the insanity to just insane.

[IFINGLOVEGNR]

Stop the insanity.......Maybe there will be a new C.D. maybe not. ?Maybe their just waiting for minor details or maybe every thing hinges on MORE COW BELL! ? This thread went from please stop the insanity to just insane.

It definatley needs more cow bell

[jarmo]

And you're avoiding a question (but that's typical)

If promotion doesn't commence once the album has been turned in, or doesn't happen during the 2 months it takes to get the album to the shelves, then what exactly does happen during that 2 month span, Jarmo?

Look, nowhere did Axl say it takes two months of promotion. You made it up!


I'm sure the promotion department at the record companies are working their asses off on various projects as we speak. That doesn't mean we know anything about it.

Do you honestly think there's gonna be an announcement on gunsnroses.com saying "ok, now we're gonna promote the album for the next two months. Stay tuned!"?



The end of the year isn't two months away. There's plenty of time to release it.




/jarmo

[November_Rain]

Eddie is not used to this online GNR rumour madness, it seems like he?s shocked . Anyways, it?s cool he decided to shut down this rumour.

[AxlsMainMan]

And you're avoiding a question (but that's typical)

If promotion doesn't commence once the album has been turned in, or doesn't happen during the 2 months it takes to get the album to the shelves, then what exactly does happen during that 2 month span, Jarmo?

Look, nowhere did Axl say it takes two months of promotion. You made it up!


I'm sure the promotion department at the record companies are working their asses off on various projects as we speak. That doesn't mean we know anything about it.

Do you honestly think there's gonna be an announcement on gunsnroses.com saying "ok, now we're gonna promote the album for the next two months. Stay tuned!"?



The end of the year isn't two months away. There's plenty of time to release it.




/jarmo

No, I didn't make that up.

In Axl's letter he talks about how the album deserves "proper promotion" and as you've stated, how "it takes 2 months to get the album to the shelves once it's been handed in."

Yes, I confused the two separate points, and for that I apologize Jarmo, however in doing so, I mistakenly believed that the logical conclusion would be that during the 2 months it takes to get the album on store shelves, promotion would in fact be taking place.

No I don't anticipate that there will be a statement on www.gunsnroses.com stating in plain English that promotion has commenced.

I think that once a single has hit the airwaves, or a video is in rotation, we can faithfully assume that promotion for the release of the album has finally begun.

Take the Harley Davidson ad for Better that never aired for example.

When that surfaced, virtually everyone thought the release of the album was imminent because the creation of such an ad, let alone the release of such an ad, would surely indicate that proper promotion had finally begun.

No, the end of the year isn't 2 months away, but it's less than 5.

If we disregard the 2 months that it takes for the album to hit store shelves, only 3 months remain.

And as I've stressed in virtually every one of my posts in this thread today, if I were in the any of the band member's shoes, I wouldn't stress about the release of the album this year, and instead carry on, as they probably are, with finalizing the other arrangements surrounding the release of the album, and make a fresh start in 2008 with the launch of a tour to coincide with the release of the album

 

[jarmo]

If we disregard the 2 months that it takes for the album to hit store shelves, only 3 months remain.

And as I've stressed in virtually every one of my posts in this thread today, if I were in the any of the band member's shoes, I wouldn't stress about the release of the album this year, and instead carry on, as they probably are, with finalizing the other arrangements surrounding the release of the album, and make a fresh start in 2008 with the launch of a tour to coincide with the release of the album

 

How can you disregard those two months?

Just because you've handed in the album and have to wait about eight weeks until its release, doesn't mean you have to sit at home and wait.

Two months from now is in October, two months back in time from the end of December is October.

Oh, and we can't even assume it's two months from now since we don't know what's happened since this spring.

There's plenty of time.




I don't understand what you're talking about a fresh start. I'm not sure the calendar is that important. You have to release it after January 1st instead of making that fresh start at the end of 2007? Makes no sense to me.

As far as I'm concerned, the time starts when it's released. Before and after Chinese Democracy. Not because it's January 1st.


Maybe it's wishful thinking on your part?




/jarmo

[Regibold]

Eddie is not used to this online GNR rumour madness, it seems like he?s shocked . Anyways, it?s cool he decided to shut down this rumour.

That's Eddie not being used to it, just think about how Axl feels when he reads crazy and out of control rumors on this forum, or that forum or the other forum. His whereabouts and life are being spewed all over the internet, and 3/4 of it's bullshit 

[stolat]

That's why this site has such a highly esteemed reputation. No bullshit here - but you can't always help what comes out of some people's mouths..................

[November_Rain]

Eddie is not used to this online GNR rumour madness, it seems like he?s shocked . Anyways, it?s cool he decided to shut down this rumour.

That's Eddie not being used to it, just think about how Axl feels when he reads crazy and out of control rumors on this forum, or that forum or the other forum. His whereabouts and life are being spewed all over the internet, and 3/4 of it's bullshit 

Yes, I can imagine that

[Regibold]

Yeah I've noticed a hell of a lot less here than anywhere else, and it's a good thing too, it's gotta be damn hard to monitor the traffic that goes through here.