Libertad debuts well below Contraband

[GeraldFord]

Well, it's been out nearly two months and it's still in the top 100. A slow but steady seller? Maybe more touring and a few more singles will help.

An opening gig for the new Van Halen tour would be sweet.

[BurningHills]

Well, it's been out nearly two months and it's still in the top 100. A slow but steady seller? Maybe more touring and a few more singles will help.

An opening gig for the new Van Halen tour would be sweet.

Poison and RATT sold better here in Scranton that VR did.

Just sayin'.

[mikegiuliana]

I really wish that a good video liket his along witha  great song could allow them to be more popular and open some eyes to good rock music without fancy shit.. Shame their age and the stupidity of kids won't allow that, but at least I I I I IIII can enjoy it each day..

[ShotgunBlues1978]

I really wish that a good video liket his along witha  great song could allow them to be more popular and open some eyes to good rock music without fancy shit.. Shame their age and the stupidity of kids won't allow that, but at least I I I I IIII can enjoy it each day..

Currently Libertad has sold about 10% as many copies as Contraband.  So what do you think happened to the other 90% in the last 3 years? 

[Butch Français]

I think it'll pick up a bit now with the new brilliant single and video.

That actually depends on what people think of a brilliant video.

If you ask me, it's not a "brilliant" video. The song is good but the video sucks.

well, I didn't ask you, and I say let us not have personal feelings get in the way of a brilliant video!

[Christos AG]

I think it'll pick up a bit now with the new brilliant single and video.

That actually depends on what people think of a brilliant video.

If you ask me, it's not a "brilliant" video. The song is good but the video sucks.

well, I didn't ask you, and I say let us not have personal feelings get in the way of a brilliant video!

Ok. Enjoy that brilliant video.

I'll let my "personal feelings" get in the way... 

[jarmo]

I think it'll pick up a bit now with the new brilliant single and video.

That actually depends on what people think of a brilliant video.

If you ask me, it's not a "brilliant" video. The song is good but the video sucks.

well, I didn't ask you, and I say let us not have personal feelings get in the way of a brilliant video!

So your objective opinion is that Last Fight is a brilliant video?

How would you rate something like Michael Jackson's "Thriller" then?



/jarmo

[GeraldFord]

I really wish that a good video liket his along witha? great song could allow them to be more popular and open some eyes to good rock music without fancy shit.. Shame their age and the stupidity of kids won't allow that, but at least I I I I IIII can enjoy it each day..

Currently Libertad has sold about 10% as many copies as Contraband.? So what do you think happened to the other 90% in the last 3 years??

This isn't a diss or anything, but why are you so interested in VR's shortcomings? You almost seem to revel in the fact that VR's new CD has flopped.

[COMAMOTIVE]

I really wish that a good video liket his along witha? great song could allow them to be more popular and open some eyes to good rock music without fancy shit.. Shame their age and the stupidity of kids won't allow that, but at least I I I I IIII can enjoy it each day..

Currently Libertad has sold about 10% as many copies as Contraband.? So what do you think happened to the other 90% in the last 3 years??

This isn't a diss or anything, but why are you so interested in VR's shortcomings? You almost seem to revel in the fact that VR's new CD has flopped.

I think it's a farily common feeling around here - Not so much than anyone really wishes the band fails or for Slash & Duff to experience dissapointment , but rather because of Weiland and his big mouth - for me I find it really funny that he was making jokes about Chinese Democracy's sales figures - 

[ShotgunBlues1978]

I really wish that a good video liket his along witha  great song could allow them to be more popular and open some eyes to good rock music without fancy shit.. Shame their age and the stupidity of kids won't allow that, but at least I I I I IIII can enjoy it each day..

Currently Libertad has sold about 10% as many copies as Contraband.  So what do you think happened to the other 90% in the last 3 years? 

This isn't a diss or anything, but why are you so interested in VR's shortcomings? You almost seem to revel in the fact that VR's new CD has flopped.

For one it's pretty funny that Scott was talking about how he said it was more likely for Nick Lachey to make the R&R Hall of Fame than it was for Chinese Democracy to go platinum then watching Libertad flop the way it did.  Ironic anyway

For two, Libertad was a huge disappointment musically from my standpoint, and maybe its failure will serve as a wakeup call for Slash and Duff.  It's not like they're hurting for money so this album flopping isn't going to keep them from paying their bills or anything.  I think that they tried way too hard to play a role, to cater to record execs and radio stations with Libertad and in the end it backfired.  I remember back when they were talking about doing songs with Pharell and what not, I thought they left GnR because they just wanted to make meat and potatoes ass kicking rock and not Axl's vision of epic, industrial influenced prog-rock.  But here we are and they're talking about making concept albums and working with rap producers, then they end up making pop rock albums with alternative producers who produced a bunch of albums for bands they didn't even like.  So maybe they'll remember what they initially set out to do with VR and get back to doing what they do best

[Falcon]

I think it's a farily common feeling around here - Not so much than anyone really wishes the band fails or for Slash & Duff to experience dissapointment , :

I think there's quite a few who actually do wish Slash, Duff et al the worst and are sincerely/absolutely ecstatic that Libertad hasn't done well.

Same feeling will rear its ugly head from the other side when their former bandmate releases his record, sharks will gather no matter what happens good or bad.

[darkdays_01]

I think it's a farily common feeling around here - Not so much than anyone really wishes the band fails or for Slash & Duff to experience dissapointment , :

I think there's quite a few who actually do wish Slash, Duff et al the worst and are sincerely/absolutely ecstatic that Libertad hasn't done well.

Same feeling will rear its ugly head from the other side when their former bandmate releases his record, sharks will gather no matter what happens good or bad.

Yeah and the main one is the one who runs the board your a mod for unfortunately. But your right. I like both bands, it is a shame the old guys get so much slack around here.

[faldor]

I think it's a farily common feeling around here - Not so much than anyone really wishes the band fails or for Slash & Duff to experience dissapointment , :

I think there's quite a few who actually do wish Slash, Duff et al the worst and are sincerely/absolutely ecstatic that Libertad hasn't done well.

Same feeling will rear its ugly head from the other side when their former bandmate releases his record, sharks will gather no matter what happens good or bad.

Yeah and the main one is the one who runs the board your a mod for unfortunately. But your right. I like both bands, it is a shame the old guys get so much slack around here.

It goes both ways, Axl and the new guys don't get their just desserts either.  I'm a fan of both bands too, but it seems like the popular thing to do is like one and hate the other for some reason.

[jarmo]

I think it's a farily common feeling around here - Not so much than anyone really wishes the band fails or for Slash & Duff to experience dissapointment , :

I think there's quite a few who actually do wish Slash, Duff et al the worst and are sincerely/absolutely ecstatic that Libertad hasn't done well.

Same feeling will rear its ugly head from the other side when their former bandmate releases his record, sharks will gather no matter what happens good or bad.

Yeah and the main one is the one who runs the board your a mod for unfortunately. But your right. I like both bands, it is a shame the old guys get so much slack around here.

Main one?

Slash and Duff have had albums out before Libertad that didn't sell well.

You can't really call the Loaded album a big seller.

It doesn't affect me in any way.


With this band all I see is a big marketing machine and nothing to back it up. Bland music and clich?s used to sell it.

I'm sorry that I'm not like you who can be happy and ecstatic about being told how fucking great the music is while it does absolutely nothing for me.



You're the ones who used Contraband's sales as proof that Slash and Duff can make it without Axl.

That shit only worked once. Now the hype is gone, the fans know what VR is about so the surprise element is gone too. Now it's time for the music to do the talking and it's very quiet.


Once again, it's all about those of us who stopped buying this thing ages ago. It's never about the music not being good enough.


Just like every time something even remotely bad (no matter how truthful it is) is said about your beloved VR, some of you try to make it about Axl and GN'R.


So don't give me the crap about me being happy whether or not these guys sell 10 or 10000000 cds. I don't care.

How many of you are secretly hoping for Axl to fail so you can laugh?





/jarmo

[darth monkey]

I hope Axl won't fail but he will. Record sales will probably be decent just because of the old GNR name, not because of the members  of the band and they're wonderful shredding, emotionless guitar playing.

[jarmo]

I hope Axl won't fail but he will. Record sales will probably be decent just because of the old GNR name, not because of the members  of the band and they're wonderful shredding, emotionless guitar playing.

You guys are sure winners already.

If CD doesn't sell 100 000 000 copies, you consider it a failure. If it sells 100 000 000, it's only because of the name and not because the songs are actually quality material.




/jarmo

[chineseblues]

I hope Axl won't fail but he will. Record sales will probably be decent just because of the old GNR name, not because of the members  of the band and they're wonderful shredding, emotionless guitar playing.

How can you call the guitar work emotionless? 

[madagas]

people who live in glass houses should not throw stones....VR does nothing for me but at least they actually release music. Maybe uninspired music but at least they gave it a shot.....1 officially released, original studio song in 16 years is not even giving it a shot. I hope that changes soon but the silence is deafening.

[jarmo]

people who live in glass houses should not throw stones....VR does nothing for me but at least they actually release music. Maybe uninspired music but at least they gave it a shot.....1 officially released, original studio song in 16 years is not even giving it a shot. I hope that changes soon but the silence is deafening.

David Hasselhoff releases music too.

HOORAY!!!




/jarmo

[ShotgunBlues1978]

You're the ones who used Contraband's sales as proof that Slash and Duff can make it without Axl.

That's the something I've noticed too.  A lot of people the same people who said VR's double platinum sales and Grammy award validated them are now saying record sales don't mean anything.  All I'm saying is don't bring up record sales or high charting singles as a measurement of success and quality when they're going double platinum, then turn around and say sales don't mean anything when the album flops.