Libertad debuts well below Contraband

[darth monkey]

Sure Weiland had some insults in some pretty big magazines, but so did GN'R back in the day when they were in almost every magazine you could pick up. From what we've been told a lot of those comments were either not said or were mis-quoted to change the actual meaning of what was said. for all we know this may be the case here too. I believe very little of what is said in magazines for this reason. That being said, Scott has said some not so nice things on camera about GN'R and Axl has said stuff about Slash and Scott that was uncalled for as well.

[jarmo]

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Only speculating, but VR use to be covered here, I think there were pics of u at a VR concert.

Yes, I saw them live.

I thought they were interesting live. I was curious to see what Duff and Slash were doing and never went to see Scott. I tried to see what people like Booker see in that guy but failed.


I saw GN'R in 2006. I knew that was what I had been missing. No need for me to look back or go back to trying to enjoy a guy who I thought was overrated in the first place.


The fact that the VR members keep talking about Axl just makes it seem like they're desperate to sell more records. I don't need to play along and promote them.

Did you listen to libertad?

I didn't get the cd yet. I was busy having fun and seeing GN'R in Japan.



/jarmo

[WARose]

Honestly Here is what I believe.

People were curious and bought Contraband, Didnt like it, so they didnt come back for the 2nd album.

this is the point!  scott talking shit about axl doesn`t matter.... it`s the music that matters. it`s a shame though, as i think libertad is miles ahead of contraband.

it was the same with their gig at rock am ring. they sucked in 2005 and people just didn`t give them a second chance in 2007... so they sucked even more, because the audience didn`t support them in the slightest way (and the sound sucked big time...)

people were curious in 2004, because of slash and duff. that`s it.


and if i remember correctly the VR news disappeared from the frontpage after this letter was posted on VR`s official website:



what a fuckin idiot...

[stolat]

Man, Junkies just don't know when to shut up!

Thanks for posting that WARose 

[CheapJon]

i always laugh reading that letter.. it's so wrong all of it.. that what makes it funny.. just like it's sometimes funny to joke about nazism and racism and stuff like that

[Smoking Guns]

WARose, good call. ?I respect that you are objective, unlike other fans, and listened to Libertad and was honest about it. ?Like I tried to tell booker about Dixie Chicks, saying what is on your mind is not the best thing. ?Period. ?

I like both bands. ?

Jarmo, when GNR reunites, what will you do then? ?Because you know and I know it WILL happen. ?Check out the album, Duff and Slash do great.

[stolat]

GN'R reuniting! NOT gonna happen!

Too much water under the bridge.......

Besides, have you heard! Guns N' Roses are putting an album out soon.........

[icpillusions]

Are some suggesting that Jarmo's feelings towards VR have affected sales for VR?? When Tommy Stinson solo albums and Izzy Solo albums make the front page news and VR doesn't that does mean their is a slight bias against VR.?

I'm not gonna use my time to promote something I don't believe in.



A Tommy or Izzy solo record definitely interests me more than whatever the fuck this Scott character releases.

I know I'm not the only GN'R fan who feels that way.




/jarmo

I have to agree with Jarmo.  I think VR would be 95% better if they had a more "rock" sounding frontman.  Scott is ok for STP but not for VR.  VR is amazing but I think Scott is holding them back from being Great.  Don't get me wrong, Scott is great at what he does but does not fit in with Slash's style.

[Smoking Guns]

I would like to see what this band plus Billy Idol could have done.  But I like Weiland enough.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

Sales wise, probably not much, seeing as Billy Idol isn't really relevant these days. (His latest album seemed good but it went nowhere) Musical wise, it might've rocked.

[chineseblues]

when GNR reunites

How can GNR reunite when they have been playing shows for the past year and a half? Oh you mean those guys, who quit the band 10 years ago and tried to make sure the fans never could see GNR again, come back to the band? Too bad, it ain't gonna happen. Axl don't need those guys who tried to fuck the fans over....

[estebanf]

when GNR reunites

How can GNR reunite when they have been playing shows for the past year and a half? Oh you mean those guys, who quit the band 10 years ago and tried to make sure the fans never could see GNR again, come back to the band? Too bad, it ain't gonna happen. Axl don't need those guys who tried to fuck the fans over....

wow. Exactly... EXACTLY my thoughts.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

Instead, there's now GnR AND VR, and we get to enjoy them both live and (in part) through new songs. (Leaks for the win )

[Falcon]

Let's steer away from the reunion talk all, it's a dead fucking horse.

Back on topic please.

Thank you.

[Jizzo]

People will always dislike Velvet Revolver. They will say that Scott sucks and that GNR needs to reunite. They will spend allday bashing VR. I say fuck that.

If you like Velvet Revolver, cool. Keep listening. Keep talking about the band
If you don't like Velvet Revolver, cool as well. Don't listen, don't talk about the band.
To each his own. no two people like exactly the same music. Just because 3 ex GNR members are in VR doesn't mean every GNR fan will like them.

So, now if the public thinks Libertad is a failure, i cant wait for its followup to blow the public out of the water

[Smoking Guns]

People will always dislike Velvet Revolver. They will say that Scott sucks and that GNR needs to reunite. They will spend allday bashing VR. I say fuck that.

If you like Velvet Revolver, cool. Keep listening. Keep talking about the band
If you don't like Velvet Revolver, cool as well. Don't listen, don't talk about the band.
To each his own. no two people like exactly the same music. Just because 3 ex GNR members are in VR doesn't mean every GNR fan will like them.

So, now if the public thinks Libertad is a failure, i cant wait for its followup to blow the public out of the water

Jizzo I agree, but the last line threw me off?  Are you excited for the follow up?

[D]

Scott just kind of brought bad Karma onto VR when at the R and Roll hall of fame he said "What will happen first, Nick Lachey in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or Chinese Democracy selling 1 million copies.


I don't think LIbertad will sell 1 million..........


The album is really great though.

[Jizzo]

People will always dislike Velvet Revolver. They will say that Scott sucks and that GNR needs to reunite. They will spend allday bashing VR. I say fuck that.

If you like Velvet Revolver, cool. Keep listening. Keep talking about the band
If you don't like Velvet Revolver, cool as well. Don't listen, don't talk about the band.
To each his own. no two people like exactly the same music. Just because 3 ex GNR members are in VR doesn't mean every GNR fan will like them.

So, now if the public thinks Libertad is a failure, i cant wait for its followup to blow the public out of the water

Jizzo I agree, but the last line threw me off? Are you excited for the follow up?

Yes, i think the next album will be great. I like Libertad. no its not the best album ever but i can still listen to most of it

[Smoking Guns]

People will always dislike Velvet Revolver. They will say that Scott sucks and that GNR needs to reunite. They will spend allday bashing VR. I say fuck that.

If you like Velvet Revolver, cool. Keep listening. Keep talking about the band
If you don't like Velvet Revolver, cool as well. Don't listen, don't talk about the band.
To each his own. no two people like exactly the same music. Just because 3 ex GNR members are in VR doesn't mean every GNR fan will like them.

So, now if the public thinks Libertad is a failure, i cant wait for its followup to blow the public out of the water

Jizzo I agree, but the last line threw me off? Are you excited for the follow up?

Yes, i think the next album will be great. I like Libertad. no its not the best album ever but i can still listen to most of it

If there is a 3rd, and grows from this, I agree, it will be bad ass!

[jarmo]

People will always dislike Velvet Revolver.

Yes, I don't like them.

They will say that Scott sucks and that GNR needs to reunite. They will spend allday bashing VR. I say fuck that.

Yeah, he's overrated.


BUT GN'R doesn't need to reunite. Fuck that.

Axl didn't spend all this time just to throw it away on some fucking reunion.




/jarmo