Libertad debuts well below Contraband

[Smoking Guns]

I think it will just be a critically acclaimed album like Exile on Main St. was.? No big hits, just a lot of good tunes.? I am happy with it.? The band is happy with it.? Its okay.? As the tour progresses, album sales will pick up.

Please for the love of god, don't compare that pile of crap to Exile on Main St. Libertad is Nowhere as near as good of an album as anything the Stones have released

I agree.  But exhile had 0 hits on it.  0, zero, zilch.  I am not saying it is that good, but a great album doesn't need hits.  Exhile didn't sell that well either.  I think the album is great.

[difleha]

It's weird. I've heard talks of Libertad being a better album than Contraband, but these numbers, they're so disappointing.

[Jackamo!]

I think it'll do better over time.

A.K.A Once "The Last Fight" is released.

[metallex78]

Not too surprised really. I haven't heard SBQM on the radio at all here in Australia and the album hasn't had that much promotion either.

And, I still think Contraband was a better album too.

[GeraldFord]

Tool sold 564,000 the first week in May 2006! People talk out of their ass

Well Libertad is shaping up to be a flop, unless word of mouth and/or The Last Fight save its ass this album won't even sniff platinum and will have to settle for just north of gold

It's understandable, people want their favorite bands to do well.? So they will try to rationalize this disappointing debut.? But 100,000 is pretty bad for a band with this kind of starpower, especially when their debut album sold so much more just a few years back.? You can bet that the label is very disappointed and I doubt VR are particularly happy with it either

I think it's way too early to call the album a flop. While the opening sales are admittedly disappointing, the album could still have some staying power. I know the last Buckcherry album sold a million in the states, and it took a while, via word of mouth and a couple strong, but not huge singles.

[killingvector]

I think it'll do better over time.

A.K.A Once "The Last Fight" is released.

I think American Man would do really well too. Some great Slash axework and a nice, tight chorus.

[Booker Floyd]

I think American Man would do really well too. Some great Slash axework and a nice, tight chorus.

Not a bad suggestion.  I still think "Get Out The Door" is the consensus third single, but a fourth - if there is one - is very much wide open.  I think "Let It Roll" and "Just Sixteen" are good contenders and "She Mine" seems to be a band favorite.  "American Man" is one of my favorites from the album, but its verses are difficult to understand and its breakdown might not be single-friendly. 

I think Id ultimately go with "Just Sixteen." 

[Falcon]

I think American Man would do really well too. Some great Slash axework and a nice, tight chorus.

Not a bad suggestion.? I still think "Get Out The Door" is the consensus third single, but a fourth - if there is one - is very much wide open.? I think "Let It Roll" and "Just Sixteen" are good contenders and "She Mine" seems to be a band favorite.? "American Man" is one of my favorites from the album, but its verses are difficult to understand and its breakdown might not be single-friendly.?

I think Id ultimately go with "Just Sixteen."?

I'm surprised "Mary Mary" isn't getting more run beyond the songs mentioned above.

Extremely catchy,great chorus.

[D]

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I still dont agree completely.

Its a good chorus, Not as great as u guys rave about in my opinion.


I just now figured out "Get Out The Door" is about a tranvestite!!!!!!! that could be a funny video.


Just Sixteen isnt that good in my opinion, I hate the lyrics.

[Booker Floyd]

Just Sixteen isnt that good in my opinion, I hate the lyrics.

I cant understand how any GNR fan could dislike "Just Sixteen."  I also think the lyrics are good.

I like "Mary, Mary" quite a bit as well, but it just doesnt strike me as a single.  I wish I had an explanation as to why, but I dont. 

Does anybody else think that "Mary, Mary" sounds somewhat like a hybrid between "Big Machine" and "Superhuman" and "Illegal i Song?"  The intro and verses have a bit of a "Big Machine" feel; the pre-chorus has the high-pitched, Alice In Chains "Again"-styled "ooh oohs" last heard in "Superhuman;" and the ending has the same kind of repeatedly yelled line "Illegal i Song"s did.  I realize that these are basically VR conventions to some extent, but those three songs come to mind each time I hear "Mary, Mary."

[metallex78]

I like Just 16, and I agree it's one of the better tracks on Libertad, but I dislike Dave's fuzzy/farting guitar sound. I usually pan it over to one side so I can just hear Slash's playing.

Dave's guitar annoys me a fair bit on this album and with Slash's cleaner tone, it doesn't mix very well.

[Genesis]

I like Just 16, and I agree it's one of the better tracks on Libertad, but I dislike Dave's fuzzy/farting guitar sound. I usually pan it over to one side so I can just hear Slash's playing.

Dave's guitar annoys me a fair bit on this album and with Slash's cleaner tone, it doesn't mix very well.

Yeah, same here. I noticed that too. On 'Just 16' as well as the start of the solo in GraveDancer. First time I heard it, I thought my speakers were distorting..

[stolat]

This is Who Magazine's review of She Builds Quick Machines:

" Three ex-Guns N' Roses members and an ex-Stone Temple Pilots singer do the expected, producing a song that's three- quarters hair metal, one quarter post-grunge. It's also four quarters stereotyped and dispiriting. 1/5"

[mikegiuliana]

Jesus, am I the only person who really likes Contraband?

Nope I still listen to it and enjoy it..  I sure as hell didn't expect libertad to sell anything near contraband...

There's isn't near the hype or publicity this time around... They have a core audience and will do well live they just won't sell a ton of albums unless they had a scom that everyone loved..

I always love hair metal refrences.. I guess anyone who ever sang or played rock in the 80's and had their hair teased was hair metal''..

[jak0lantern01]

Libertad is way too pop sounding. Sorry, it's true. Contraband was way more rocking and had catchier tunes. Very disappointing in my book, and I'm a big fan of pretty much everyone in the band. Slash is God. Unfortunately, even God can't save this one. It's so pop that I could easily hear it in a radio line-up of Avril Lavigne(?), Blink-182, and Velvet Revolver. So much for getting a great rock album this summer.

[mrlee]

Libertad is way too pop sounding. Sorry, it's true. Contraband was way more rocking and had catchier tunes. Very disappointing in my book, and I'm a big fan of pretty much everyone in the band. Slash is God. Unfortunately, even God can't save this one. It's so pop that I could easily hear it in a radio line-up of Avril Lavigne(?), Blink-182, and Velvet Revolver. So much for getting a great rock album this summer.

i agree its pretty commericial sounding with the majority of its songs containing lame chorus's and weak not very powerful guitar driven verses

[jak0lantern01]

Yeah, I thought this one was to be the answer to Contraband's light-on-guitar's sound. My band has no issues doing a cover of almost anything from Contraband, I couldn't pick a single song from Libertad worth learning.

[Meanbone1980]

Well there are enough good songs on Libertad like Pill demon etc, American man, Gave dancer, let it roll, Get out the door. Most of those songs are better then most songs on Controband, so i think the problem is the quality of your band who can't play the songs jak0lantern01 ?

[mrlee]

Well there are enough good songs on Libertad like Pill demon etc, American man, Gave dancer, let it roll, Get out the door. Most of those songs are better then most songs on Controband, so i think the problem is the quality of your band who can't play the songs jak0lantern01 ?

i dont think thats what he means, he means they dont want to play them cause its all laid back weak rock, not hard rock which is what he wants to play.

[LunsJail]

I haven't bought the record yet and don't know that I will.  For me it's mainly the first single.  Sure I don't think Contraband is a spectacular album but I would have given this album a chance if I'd been excited about the single.  Maybe I'll still buy it if I hear some other songs that catch my ear.  I'm just one example out of about 156,000 that didn't turn out the first week this time around.