Libertad debuts well below Contraband

[Jizzo]

bon jovi's 3rd week outsold Libertad's debut. Kinda embarasing

[Eazy E]

Brutal... In fact, I don't like the album anymore because of this!

[Eazy E]

Here's an article that's related (about VR debuting #2 in Canada behind Bon Jovi):


Velvets can't shoot down Bon Jovi

By JOHN WILLIAMS
Senior Editor, JAM! Showbiz
   
Velvet Revolver

Rock 'n roll baddies Velvet Revolver shot up the Canadian charts this week, but couldn't pierce the No. 1 spot in the land.

The band's sophomore CD "Libertad" debuted at No. 2 with 11,000 in sales, behind Bon Jovi's "Lost Highway" (16,000), which remained at No. 1 for a third consecutive week.

Velvet Revolver failed to match the successful debut of their first album, "Contraband," which checked in at No. 1 back in June of 2004, according to Nielsen SoundScan data.

Unfortunately, it was the same story down south for the Velvets. "Libertad" checked in at No. 5 in the U.S. with 92,000 in sales, far from the No. 1 debut of "Contraband," which had 256,000 in first week sales, according to Billboard.com.

Back in Canada, Claude Dubois' "Duos Dubois" and Rihanna's "Good Girl Gone Bad" both climbed up one position to No. 3 and No. 4, respectively, while the White Stripes' "Icky Thump" was bumped from No. 3 to No. 5.

After premiering at No. 2 last week, Kelly Clarkson's latest disc "My December" went cold, sinking four spots to No. 6, while rapper T.I.'s "T.I. vs. T.I.P." had the second biggest entry at No. 7. 
 

Michael Buble's "Call Me Irresponsible" dropped from No. 6 to No. 8, likewise for Avril Lavigne's "The Best Damn Thing," which slipped from No. 7 to No. 9, and Linkin Park rounded out the top 10 at No. 10.

Other notable debuts included Silverstein's "Arrivals & Departure" at No. 25, the "Transformers" soundtrack at No. 27, and the Chemical Brothers' "We Are the Night" at No. 39.

In the U.S., T.I. came in at No. 1, followed by Miley Cyrus' double disc "Hannah Montana 2/Meet Miley Cyrus" in second, Kelly Clarkson in third, and Bon Jovi in fourth.

[Eazy E]

Velvets can't shoot down Bon Jovi

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/V/Velvet_Revolver/2007/07/11/4331176-ca.html

VR debut at #2 in Canada about 5,000 back of Bon Jovi for #1.

[Booker Floyd]

You already said this in the album sales thread, why would it warrant its own thread?

[Drope]

That's a secondary thing. Libertad rocks, that's all that matters!

VR

[elcharlie]

all i know is the bonus track called messages will be a classic, who cares if its not number 1, theres too much downloading,

[estebanf]

not rare at all, Bon Jovi, like it or not, its a major band.

another Bon Jovi thread 

[PhillyRiot]

Bon Jovi plays in football stadiums and has a huge following.  Nothing to be ashamed of.

[Rocker_GNR]

not rare at all, Bon Jovi, like it or not, its a major band.

another Bon Jovi thread?

Bon Jovi was a good band, today its music is crap. Velvet Revolver music is very much better than the music that Bon Jovi does today...in this second millenium only Velvet Revover and Tha darkness have tried to bring back the classic rocker sounds and I say thanks for that.

[russtcb]

For those who brought up marketing, consider this. Not only did Bon Jovi come to market with little to no marketing themselves, they also came to market with a confusing record that didn't get much play on either target station (country or pop) and they still debuted at #1 then went on to out sell VR.

I don't consider myself a Bon Jovi fan overall so please don't think I'm defending them or saying they're album is better then VRs either. Other then the first single their album is absolute garbage, it just happened to sell better. Why? I don't know.

I know at least here in Detroit the rock stations have been supporting the hell out of VR and Libertad.

[faldor]

For those who brought up marketing, consider this. Not only did Bon Jovi come to market with little to no marketing themselves, they also came to market with a confusing record that didn't get much play on either target station (country or pop) and they still debuted at #1 then went on to out sell VR.

I don't consider myself a Bon Jovi fan overall so please don't think I'm defending them or saying they're album is better then VRs either. Other then the first single their album is absolute garbage, it just happened to sell better. Why? I don't know.

I know at least here in Detroit the rock stations have been supporting the hell out of VR and Libertad.

Maybe I'm missunderstanding you, Bon Jovi little to no marketing?  Jon was on American Idol, played a new tune on there.  He was on just about every major daytime talk show you could imagine.  Did an unplugged session that aired on three different networks.  Is that not marketing/promotion?

[FunkyMonkey]

Rolling Stone Rock&Roll Daily

Velvet Revolver Has Weak Week, LL Cool J Teams Up With 50 Cent, Pussycat Doll Goes Solo

T.I.?s abbreviation-heavy T.I. vs. T.I.P. was king of the chart, selling 468,000 copies for a number-one debut. Velvet Revolver?s Libertad entered the chart at number five with 92,000 units sold, nearly a third of the copies the band?s Contraband moved its first week of release in 2004.

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/07/11/velvet-revolver-has-weak-week-ll-cool-j-teams-up-with-50-cent-pussycat-doll-goes-solo/

[DeN]

that's normal, shit sells more than good music in general.

too bad Libertad has not more success than Contraband,
because it's a good album, much better than the first one.

anyway, i'm happy for Slash & Duff, because with this one
they prove the flame is still here.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

Bon Jovi plays in football stadiums and has a huge following.  Nothing to be ashamed of.

Nah, but their music is.

[Falcon]

Enough of the Bon Jovi talk, plenty of that in the Bad Obsession forum.

Back on topic please.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Good old Ozzy Osbourne sold 150K his first week just last month.  White Stripes sold 223,000.  Paul McCartney with 161,000.  Maroon 5 with 429,000.  Linkin Park 625,000.  NIN with 187,000.  The new Smashing Pumpkins album is on pace for 150K. 

Going back to last year, Tool with 564K.  Chili Peppers with 442K.  Audioslave with 150K.  Pearl Jam with with 279K. 

There are probably others that I'm missing

The music industry is in decline for sure.  But that's a lot of rock albums that span a lot of different styles and appeal to a lot of different demographics

[GeraldFord]

Good old Ozzy Osbourne sold 150K his first week just last month.? White Stripes sold 223,000.? Paul McCartney with 161,000.? Maroon 5 with 429,000.? Linkin Park 625,000.? NIN with 187,000.? The new Smashing Pumpkins album is on pace for 150K.?

Going back to last year, Tool with 564K.? Chili Peppers with 442K.? Audioslave with 150K.? Pearl Jam with with 279K.?

There are probably others that I'm missing

The music industry is in decline for sure.? But that's a lot of rock albums that span a lot of different styles and appeal to a lot of different demographics

Yikes, that doe not bode well for VR unless all the fans just aren't going to buy it at once.

[Satapher]

btw that new VR's album is totally mediocre.. too bad I was expecting more from this band

[HBK]

Thankz By BAD NEWS...

 

HBK *