Fuck Off

[Timothy]

Axl was always going to make it.

Make it as what?

A drag queen, paper boy, porn stunt cock???

[stolat]

If he didn't make it in Rock N' Roll he would've made it as a Classical pianist.

[Timothy]

If he didn't make it in Rock N' Roll he would've made it as a Classical pianist.

dude isn't that good to do that.

[Jim Bob]

Jim bob

U know what Axl would be without his fans?



Bill Bailey still living in Indiana

right.  because its our amazing talent that makes us fans of him. 

his point was, if it wasnt for the fans, he wouldnt be anywhere. there have been alot of talented bands that never made it because they never got a big enough fan base.

but obviously that talent wasn't quite on Axl's level because he managed to attract such a large fanbase, they did not.   if it wasn't for his music we wouldnt' be fans so this is the most retarded argument ever.

[stolat]

If he didn't make it in Rock N' Roll he would've made it as a Classical pianist.

dude isn't that good to do that.

Oh yes he is.

[Timothy]

Jim bob

U know what Axl would be without his fans?



Bill Bailey still living in Indiana

right.  because its our amazing talent that makes us fans of him. 

his point was, if it wasnt for the fans, he wouldnt be anywhere. there have been alot of talented bands that never made it because they never got a big enough fan base.

but obviously that talent wasn't quite on Axl's level because he managed to attract such a large fanbase, they did not.   if it wasn't for his music we wouldnt' be fans so this is the most retarded argument ever.

Sir, their is no right or wrong way to look at . Don't get your panties in a twist.

[mrlee]

Jim bob

U know what Axl would be without his fans?



Bill Bailey still living in Indiana

right.  because its our amazing talent that makes us fans of him. 

his point was, if it wasnt for the fans, he wouldnt be anywhere. there have been alot of talented bands that never made it because they never got a big enough fan base.

but obviously that talent wasn't quite on Axl's level because he managed to attract such a large fanbase, they did not.   if it wasn't for his music we wouldnt' be fans so this is the most retarded argument ever.

spice girls made a load of shit music yet they were huge. its not about talent, its about the luck of attracting enough people to get signed and then things just working right with fate to get you a huge fanbase.

without the fans musicians are nothing.

[jarmo]

So how can u not just understand that some fans are tired and upset over waiting for the last 7 years and all the false starts.

2006 and 2007 (so far) have been amazing.


You people forgot so fast. Maybe you should think back to the exciting times of 2005 or 1998?



Anybody who thinks Axl owes them an album: Leave right now!

You didn't pay for it, you weren't forced to "wait" and it's all by your own choice.

You really need to find some other band who you can latch onto saying they owe you...... Fucking ridiculous.



/jarmo

[D]

I don't and have never cared to wait.

But I can see why people get upset.


I feel we are owed the album.

I didn't say we were OWED it this year or next year or even this decade but at some point we deserve to hear this album.


Jim Bob u just proved my point. U said "Axl's MUSIC attracted us"

Exactly!!!!!  Which is why he needs to release more of it.

Whoever fuckin heard of a musician that didnt release music?

[CheapJon]

at least those who survive axl will hear the music

no i do not wish axl dead or saying it won't come out before

[American Hellhound]

Axl owes nothing to noone. If you have some legal document saying otherwise, then fair enough, but I doubt this is the case

I still have my 2002 Philly ticket stub for the show Axl was "supposed" to do.

Does that count as paperwork ?

[stolat]

Axl owes nothing to noone. If you have some legal document saying otherwise, then fair enough, but I doubt this is the case

I still have my 2002 Philly ticket stub for the show Axl was "supposed" to do.

Does that count as paperwork ?

Not in a legal sense, no.

[Timothy]

Probably me since I got a -1.

jarmo you'd probably maintain your opinion if it were never released.

You run with that belief that the band does not owe anybody anything.  I'd agree if Axl did not keep the name.  Tired arguement you say?  Some of the founding members disagree.  I'm not saying Axl should have moved on without the name.  I'm cool with him taking Guns N Roses to new places.

From where I sit, and yeah it's a valid place just like yours.......he does owe GNR fans who have supported his new direction.  He owes the fans that have followed him and his annoncements of releasing an album.  Noone knew of Chinese Democracy until he spoke of it.  None of us knew of the new songs until he played them. 

Axl is stating, "I want GNR to continue on and this is my vision.  Will yo BUY into it?"  And we have....for years now.

So to some degree, I feel he does owe those of us who have followed him.

Am I waiting around for the cd, no.  But I certainly have an interest in it.  It's long overdue.  Just because you jarmo choose to support him unconditionally doesn't automatically make anyone who dares speak against Axl a whiner.

It's a human right, in most places, to voice our opinions.  Am I here everyday speaking negatively?  No.  I do understand now that I cannot voice an opinion or complaint regarding Axl Rose, who by the in my opinion is still the greatest musician to ever grace this planet.  That won't change whether or not he releases any new material.

I thought this was the best place for me, a fan moreso of Axl than of GNR, to voice a frustrated opinion to his timely manner of delivering the cd to me/us.

I believe CD will have the same impact on me that AFD had 20 years ago.  So I am supportive.

But as you wish, jarmo, I'm exiting your board.  Yeah you have a GNR board that is tapped directly into the band.  I was within the AFD vibe as it was happening.  I felt the change GNR had on the music scene as it occurred.

Yeah, Axl does owe me and any other fan who had a part in getting him where he is today.  We, the Afderz.

Axl owes nothing to noone. If you have some legal document saying otherwise, then fair enough, but I doubt this is the case

Jarmo runs this board his way. If you do not like it, then there are other boards to choose from

hey were the hell is that damn street team , sir???

[GeorgeSteele]

Jim bob

U know what Axl would be without his fans?



Bill Bailey still living in Indiana

"I guess as much as I realized that I wanted to be Axl Rose, I'll always just be Bill Bailey."



(did you get that George Steele?!?! A total fucking homerun!!!! Yeeehaw!!!)

Never gets old, my friend.

Quite a filthy orgy going on in the Admin section these last 2 days. ?I'm a little nervous in here, I think I'll go back to minding my own business in the sheep thread.

[stolat]

Good thing I haven't been around for the past two days! 

[SLCPUNK]

 I think I'll go back to minding my own business in the sheep thread.

Spits water out of mouth..........lol

A complete and utter blood bath on Admin Avenue, that's fer damn sher. Looks like we all need some fresh air...

[jarmo]

Axl owes nothing to noone. If you have some legal document saying otherwise, then fair enough, but I doubt this is the case

I still have my 2002 Philly ticket stub for the show Axl was "supposed" to do.

Does that count as paperwork ?

That explains so much "bringbackadler".

Now go post on some Steven Adler forum and please remember to talk about all the shows he has canceled with his band, Adler's Appetite. 




/jarmo

[Jim Bob]

Jim Bob u just proved my point. U said "Axl's MUSIC attracted us"

Exactly!!!!!  Which is why he needs to release more of it.

Whoever fuckin heard of a musician that didnt release music?

that doesn't translate into owing us an album release.

you might be attracted to my money, but unless i lend you some of it, you dont owe me anything.  (not implying i have a lot of money, but you get my point)

[Timothy]

I think we all need a beer break......

[stolat]

Here you go!