Fuck Off

[Timothy]

You are forgetting inflation, you should ask for about 5 bucks....

But buy the time we know for sure or not that the album isn't coming it maybe more like 25 bucks.

Well, we must remember that the value of the dollar is falling, then take into account Axl's braids, and finally divide it all by pi. I think we'll have an accurate figure then...maybe.

But with the falling value of the dollar while we even be using the dollar for much longer? Could be using somethign like broken glass and cigarettes.

[SLCPUNK]

Well we must convert the falling dollar to the "amero" which will be the currency once Canada, USA, and Mexico all become one union. I think one Amero will equal half a bag of broken glass and cigarettes, preferably Kools, under the most adverse scenario. (Again, I think we are fucked-but precious metals in the meantime.)

[D]

I don't necessarily agree with u guys with all due respect.


I think honestly, we are "OWED" Chinese Democracy.

Especially after Axl's press release this past December and the fact he is out touring.

If Axl chooses to retire and never release an album that is fine and I respect that and will still be a huge fan and support him

BUT, However:

When u countless times promote and talk about an album/project, and u make a couple promises that it will see the light of day, That then qualifies as OWING your fans.

If Axl never mentioned CD or never said anything about it,then SURE he owes us nothing, but after all the years,hype and talk about this album, I would think its fair to feel like we are "OWED" at least Chinese Democracy.

Am I gonna cry,bitch,rant,moan and stop being a fan if we never get it?  NO

But it still won't change my opinion on the subject.

[GeraldFord]

Jarmo told someone to "fuck off"? Maybe that explains the 1 on his karma.

[Howard2k]

I don't necessarily agree with u guys with all due respect.


I think honestly, we are "OWED" Chinese Democracy.

Especially after Axl's press release this past December and the fact he is out touring.

If Axl chooses to retire and never release an album that is fine and I respect that and will still be a huge fan and support him

BUT, However:

When u countless times promote and talk about an album/project, and u make a couple promises that it will see the light of day, That then qualifies as OWING your fans.

If Axl never mentioned CD or never said anything about it,then SURE he owes us nothing, but after all the years,hype and talk about this album, I would think its fair to feel like we are "OWED" at least Chinese Democracy.

Am I gonna cry,bitch,rant,moan and stop being a fan if we never get it?? NO

But it still won't change my opinion on the subject.

That's an interesting perspective.  ESPECIALLY in light of the "Chinese Democracy" tour etc.   

[Howard2k]

Jarmo told someone to "fuck off"? Maybe that explains the 1 on his karma.

It was a generic Fuck Off.   He didn't really specify who the recipients were. 

[SLCPUNK]

Was it officially called the "CD tour" or were internet MB members referring to it as such?

[polluxlm]

He owes me a 2001 show.

Yes, I have the paperwork to prove this.

But since I can't have that, how about we strike a deal with CD?

[norway]

He owes me a new snowblower.

i'd like an turbo-engine on mine, PS i'm an afd'er...

[Jim Bob]

anyone who feels they are owed anything from Axl or Guns N' Roses should just log out now because they are not a real fucking fan and they dont get the concept of THEM CHOOSING TO BE A FAN OF THE BAND, not the other way around.   Axl never asked anyone to come to htgth.com or any other gnr site and wait for chinese democracy.

[norway]

anyone who feels they are owed anything from Axl or Guns N' Roses should just log out now because they are not a real fucking fan.? ? they are an ungreatful piece of shit cocksucking mother fucking whiny ass bitch mother fucker shit cunt cocksucking bitch.

seriously, do you have any idea how much snow we have in the winter here?

[Jim Bob]

haha i dunno mang.   i live in the desert so Axl can buy me a new air conditioner. 

[Grouse]

Was it officially called the "CD tour" or were internet MB members referring to it as such?

It was officially called that...

[Jim Bob]

who gives a fuck what the name of the fucking tour was called?   that has nothing to do with anyone "oweing" anyone.

[cfcsfc]

I don't think that there is an issue of whether we are owed anything or not.
On the one hand, at times I feel, much like D posted, that after all these mentions of ChiDem, that we are owed at least for it to be released. But on the other hand, it's our desicions as to whether we wait around for ChiDem or not. As Axl said 'live your life'. Axl isn't responsible for satisfying our want for more music, no matter how much we want it.
I paid to see a GnR show, so I was owed a performance, and they deffinatly delivered on that. That should be the only time you are owed anything by the band- when you put your money down in exchange for a product. If it's a show- you are owed the show. If it's a CD, you are owed the music on it (which you'll get on the thing.). When it comes to waiting for an album we aren't really owed a thing. It's our decision to wait.
All of that being said though, I feel that Axl should live up to his word, and release the album. How many press releases have mentioned the 'forth coming album Chinese Democracy'? Whether it's released tomorrow (we can dream can't we?!), in 6 months, or in 6 years, I just hope that Axl lives up to releasing the thing.
But that's my decision, if it doesn't come out I'm not going to hold Axl accountable for the time I wasted on it. I will however be dissapointed, but life goes on.

[Howard2k]

who gives a fuck what the name of the fucking tour was called?? ?that has nothing to do with anyone "oweing" anyone.

You're right.  There's no way that anyone would ever have had their decision to go to any of the shows influenced by the tour name.

[AdZ]

Was it officially called the "CD tour" or were internet MB members referring to it as such?

It was officially called that...

No, it wasn't.  Stop spreading lies.

[Howard2k]

Was it officially called the "CD tour" or were internet MB members referring to it as such?

It was officially called that...

No, it wasn't.? Stop spreading lies.

The North American leg wasn't, but wasn't one of the overseas jaunts using that moniker?

[AdZ]

No, it was The Guns N' Roses World Tour


Any other names were wrongly used by promoters etc.

[mrlee]

anyone who feels they are owed anything from Axl or Guns N' Roses should just log out now because they are not a real fucking fan and they dont get the concept of THEM CHOOSING TO BE A FAN OF THE BAND, not the other way around.   Axl never asked anyone to come to htgth.com or any other gnr site and wait for chinese democracy.

jesus Jim Bob, must you even post defending gnr, you do it so often, using a so typical, standard response i think we can all assume what youd put rather than you even typing it.