Rock In Rio 4 Cancelation/Buckethead departure

[gunns1]

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Like what?

yeah right.
what really are we supposed to talk about?
album being released soon?
Well, I've been talking about the album release since 2000, so sorry I dont share your enthusiasm.

what else is there to talk about? You getting your first period?!

You have a point, what else can be talk about?

Are going to hear from gnr at all before the years out?
Is their any chance we might?
We cant talk about things we dont know, but we can talk about things that we do know, and what have happened,
eg Buckethead....
like why didnt he wanna come back ?

[sic.]

Also think about this: why did Buckethead leave GN'R when he did? If he was only in it to promote himself why didn't he wait for the album to come out?

At the end of last year, Buckethead became fed up with Guns' inability to complete an album or tour and stopped working with them, his manager said. - MTV Report

[A Private Eye]

BH releases loads of albums a year, I think it's 17 so far this year. I think the lack of progress with GNR was probably frustrating him so he left. I doubt he originally joined GNR just to raise his profile with sole intention of quitting once a few more people knew about him.

[GNRBABY]

^ Just for the record, I had been a Buckethead fan before he joined GNR. I discovered him through Les Claypool and saw him open for Primus on the Ant-Pop tour. He and Brain have been playing together in Praxis for like 7-8 years now...

[Ines_rocks!]

lol I remember this... Me and my brother was going to see them but then, it got cancelled... we were quite dissapointed but to be honest, after I heard which band was going to replace them (Foo Fighters) I kinda forgot about it and enjoyed a really good fucking show by Mr. Dave Ghrol who, during the concert, let people know how happy he was that Axl had cancelled so he could play for us. Lol he even played the intro of SCOM to make fun of Guns but hey! I didn?t take it seriously... it was funny and, afterall, by then I wasn?t that of a Guns fan lol. But it sure was a great show by Foo Fighters and concerning Guns, I got to see them two years after, in the same event. 

[Lucky]

that was the 3rd time they canceled a show I was supposed to go to. (2ce in 2001)

[Bruno Poeys]

Also think about this: why did Buckethead leave GN'R when he did? If he was only in it to promote himself why didn't he wait for the album to come out?

According to those who have actually spoken with Buckethead it appears his plans were to secure a recording contract with Sanctuary Records which I encouraged my management to make available to him

Anyway, he knew he would be on the record, he would get his money/credit anyway. I really hope Ron replaced all his parts now. I love his playin', he's one of my favourite guitarists and I love his TWAT and Better solos, but what he did isn't nice from him. He can release albums even if he's in Gn'R. He had no real reason to leave, he was going to play Rock in Rio, but yeah, he was already known since he probably had a contract with Sanctuary Records.

[Bruno Poeys]

thats axl's view (as written by merck). believe what you want from it.

Some guy posted that on another board as well. He said that someone told him exactly that - some kind of "insider", if I'm not wrong, told him that buckethead only wanted to promote himself.
Axl said he spoke with people that actually had spoken with Buckethead. I can't see any reason to not believe in this. But then, I might be wrong.

some guy said that what axl said was right.

some guy that apparently worked for buckethead, doing promo stuff during the 2002 tour. User izzbo @ cd.com


I worked for Bucket Head doing promo stuff during the 2002 tour. I remember talking to his manager the day after the riots in Canada and I knew right then and there Bucket was in GNR for the publicity. His manager didn't know I was a GNR fan first and foremost. I asked him what he thought of the opening US date resulting in a riot. He answered something along the lines of "Yeah, Bucket Head isn't into all the negativity and shit the Axl represents. This just sucks that he has to be involved with that BS. We want to distance ourselves from that stuff and have nothing to do with it." I can understand a bit, but the tone of the whole conversation is that Axl sucks and come promote Bucket Heads solo stuff.

 -= izZbO =-

[suicide]

Sounds like Buckethead didn't say those things but his manager, according to "some guy izzbo from cd.com" who "worked for Bucket Head during the 2002 tour.

Sorry but I don't buy it.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Buckethead doesn't have a recording contract with Sanctuary does he? I don't think he ever released anything for Sanctuary Records.

[Bruno Poeys]

Sounds like Buckethead didn't say those things but his manager, according to "some guy izzbo from cd.com" who "worked for Bucket Head during the 2002 tour.

Sorry but I don't buy it.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Buckethead doesn't have a recording contract with Sanctuary does he? I don't think he ever released anything for Sanctuary Records.

Axl Rose said that. Believe if you want.

[Trist805]

I don't blame Buckethead.  He also had a solo career and it sounds like he couldn't go out on tour or do any of that stuff while he was in GNR.   Seeing as the album still hasn't come out it was probably better for him to move on and do his own thing.   Yes he did get a lot of fame out of GNR but at the same time it was probably holding him back and Axl originally hired him for a reason.   

[kingcanute]

What I read from this is just lack of communication. If I am not mistaken (although I don't know if it applies to this particular situation) Axl has (had) a tendency to isolate himself from the outside world, including band members, for long periods. This is not the best thing to do if you want to keep a band together. Add to that the enigma of Buckethead, who does not come across as very talkative, and misunderstandings are bound to happen. But this is of course just speculation.

I think it's the best for both parties that Buckethead just does his thing. Now we have Bumblefoot who is almost as gifted and a much more reliable member.

[Bruno Poeys]

What I read from this is just lack of communication. If I am not mistaken (although I don't know if it applies to this particular situation) Axl has (had) a tendency to isolate himself from the outside world, including band members, for long periods. This is not the best thing to do if you want to keep a band together. Add to that the enigma of Buckethead, who does not come across as very talkative, and misunderstandings are bound to happen. But this is of course just speculation.

I think it's the best for both parties that Buckethead just does his thing. Now we have Bumblefoot who is almost as gifted and a much more reliable member.

BBF's, at least, as gifted as him, if not more.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

And he's just plain kick-ass, which helps. Plus, he doesn't smell like KFC.

[michaelvincent]

Some of the most talented artists are unique to say the least and there is generally more to their actions than what they are on the surface. Food for thought: Neil Young and Stephen Stills have a relationship dating back to the early 60's with Buffalo Springfield and have worked together in various capacities since then. Following the first breakup of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Neil and Stephen started a band together that was quite successful, and for what seemed like little or no reason at the time Neil bailed halfway through the tour, leaving a note stating 'funny how some things that start spontaneously end that way... - Neil'. Who knows why he did that. Who knows for sure why Buckethead up and bailed from GnR. The craziest and most eccentric artists are hard to pin down really. You can speculate all you want, but unless Bucket decided to tell his side you'll never really know.

[RageNirvanaNIN]

Some of the most talented artists are unique to say the least and there is generally more to their actions than what they are on the surface. Food for thought: Neil Young and Stephen Stills have a relationship dating back to the early 60's with Buffalo Springfield and have worked together in various capacities since then. Following the first breakup of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Neil and Stephen started a band together that was quite successful, and for what seemed like little or no reason at the time Neil bailed halfway through the tour, leaving a note stating 'funny how some things that start spontaneously end that way... - Neil'. Who knows why he did that. Who knows for sure why Buckethead up and bailed from GnR. The craziest and most eccentric artists are hard to pin down really. You can speculate all you want, but unless Bucket decided to tell his side you'll never really know.

Unless BH decided to talk we'll never know anything.

[CSS]

I didn't know that Buckethead was/is such an asshole trying to promote himself.
anyway...

You're quite dull if you actually believe what was said yourself.

But you can make up your own mind as you wish.

Why, have you got yours?

Classic!

[bigbri]

thats axl's view (as written by merck). believe what you want from it.

Some guy posted that on another board as well. He said that someone told him exactly that - some kind of "insider", if I'm not wrong, told him that buckethead only wanted to promote himself.
Axl said he spoke with people that actually had spoken with Buckethead. I can't see any reason to not believe in this. But then, I might be wrong.

some guy said that what axl said was right.

some guy that apparently worked for buckethead, doing promo stuff during the 2002 tour. User izzbo @ cd.com


I worked for Bucket Head doing promo stuff during the 2002 tour. I remember talking to his manager the day after the riots in Canada and I knew right then and there Bucket was in GNR for the publicity. His manager didn't know I was a GNR fan first and foremost. I asked him what he thought of the opening US date resulting in a riot. He answered something along the lines of "Yeah, Bucket Head isn't into all the negativity and shit the Axl represents. This just sucks that he has to be involved with that BS. We want to distance ourselves from that stuff and have nothing to do with it." I can understand a bit, but the tone of the whole conversation is that Axl sucks and come promote Bucket Heads solo stuff.

 -= izZbO =-

Well, if they guy did work for Buckethead, he sucked at it. Everyone knows Buckethead spells his name as one word. That gives this story away as bullshit. Anyway, why wouldn't he want to distance himself from a riot, if true?

[suicide]

Well, if they guy did work for Buckethead, he sucked at it. Everyone knows Buckethead spells his name as one word. That gives this story away as bullshit. Anyway, why wouldn't he want to distance himself from a riot, if true?

True, and it's easy to say 'I worked for Buckethead'. He was probably just handing out flyers or whatever.

[ibelieveinaxl]

Sounds like Buckethead didn't say those things but his manager, according to "some guy izzbo from cd.com" who "worked for Bucket Head during the 2002 tour.

Sorry but I don't buy it.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Buckethead doesn't have a recording contract with Sanctuary does he? I don't think he ever released anything for Sanctuary Records.

your right. bucket never had a contract or released a thing on Sanctuary. Tommy got a record deal with Sanctuary. They put out "Village Gorilla Head." Baz also got a managment deal with sanctuary...