Is the old GNR lineup on the new RS cover?

[jarmo]

If you click the link, you can read the whole press release.



/jarmo

[droezle]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

So you agree with the fact that this new incarnation of the band have to tour over and over again playing the old "classic" songs just to keep the fans happy? Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D. Respect is a bit like a knife,it cuts on 2 sides. When a fan shows his respect to a band than it's most likely that a band give their repsect back to the fans. They only can do this to give the fans something new and not by taking profit of the old songs. Ok, Axl wrote most of this songs but what are the credits of the new members in these songs? Nothing.

[russtcb]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

[CheapJon]

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

exactly it's only tops 10 % of the crowds who have heard the new songs

[faldor]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

Not to compare the 2 bands again, BUT how many songs off of Libertad did VR play before it came out?  3? 4?  Did they owe the fans more than that?  No!  GNR is playing 6 "new" songs, that's a pretty good number.  Just because you've heard bootleg versions of these songs doesn't change the fact that they are still "new" to a majority of people.  Not everyone scours GNR sites and youtube to hear the latest leaks and such.

[russtcb]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

Not to compare the 2 bands again, BUT how many songs off of Libertad did VR play before it came out?? 3? 4?? Did they owe the fans more than that?? No!? GNR is playing 6 "new" songs, that's a pretty good number.? Just because you've heard bootleg versions of these songs doesn't change the fact that they are still "new" to a majority of people.? Not everyone scours GNR sites and youtube to hear the latest leaks and such.

Another thing I like to remember is that before UYI came out, GNR were playing less then half the songs that ended up on them live. So assuming CD is 13 tracks (as we've heard) that would be about the same amount played right?

[RageNirvanaNIN]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

Not to compare the 2 bands again, BUT how many songs off of Libertad did VR play before it came out?  3? 4?  Did they owe the fans more than that?  No!  GNR is playing 6 "new" songs, that's a pretty good number.  Just because you've heard bootleg versions of these songs doesn't change the fact that they are still "new" to a majority of people.  Not everyone scours GNR sites and youtube to hear the latest leaks and such.

But VR has released libertad.....

[russtcb]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

Not to compare the 2 bands again, BUT how many songs off of Libertad did VR play before it came out?? 3? 4?? Did they owe the fans more than that?? No!? GNR is playing 6 "new" songs, that's a pretty good number.? Just because you've heard bootleg versions of these songs doesn't change the fact that they are still "new" to a majority of people.? Not everyone scours GNR sites and youtube to hear the latest leaks and such.

But VR has released libertad.....

And that has what to do with playing new songs live to give fans a glimpse of CD?

[PhillyRiot]

Getting back on topic, it is awesome to see this magazine cover in stores.  Without a doubt the best rock band ever assembled on that cover.  The best of all-time. 

[russtcb]

Getting back on topic, it is awesome to see this magazine cover in stores.  Without a doubt the best rock band ever assembled on that cover.  The best of all-time. 

Yep. I love Guns N' Roses too. All of the people that have been members through the years. Even those guys.

[GNR estranged]

Maybe to you they are more successful....




/jarmo

No, not to me. But what has G N' R realised in the past 10 years? Nothing beside 1 decent tour (2006-2007). So, isn't it time that they fulfill their promises and give something back to the fans beside another tour?

Excuse me, but they do not owe us anything. Have you paid for Chinese Democracy yet? No? Then they don't owe you it. If you paid to go see the shows last year then you got to see a show for the money you paid. Again they don't owe us anything.

....Ok,they play some new songs but when are they gonna play something the fans never heard before to give them a glimpse of C.D....

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
There Was A Time
Better
IRS

...I'd say those qualify.

Not to compare the 2 bands again, BUT how many songs off of Libertad did VR play before it came out?? 3? 4?? Did they owe the fans more than that?? No!? GNR is playing 6 "new" songs, that's a pretty good number.? Just because you've heard bootleg versions of these songs doesn't change the fact that they are still "new" to a majority of people.? Not everyone scours GNR sites and youtube to hear the latest leaks and such.

dont get me wrong, i have nothing against GNR for playing the 6 new songs. i think that? they shouldnt play anything that we havent heard yet until CD comes out. i'd rather wait to here finished studio versions than hear them live. but,your comparison is wrong. you are comparing vr's 2nd album to GNR's first albums with the new band. for vr's first album they played 8 new songs live. either way, can't you just like both of them and not compare what the other is doing? you should be happy that slash/duff/matt are doing the music they want and axl is doing the music he wants.

[faldor]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.  The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.  There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.  GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.  VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

[russtcb]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.  The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.  There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.  GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.  VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

I don't really get the point here. You're saying neither band should rely on the back catalog anymore?

[faldor]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.? The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.? There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.? GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.? VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

I don't really get the point here. You're saying neither band should rely on the back catalog anymore?

No, someone brought up the point that VR was playing 8 new songs before Contraband came out.  Well obviously they would have to play a large number of new songs since they were a brand new band.  Someone had brought up the argument about songs being played before albums come out and how GNR is now playing 6 songs that COULD be on CD (Rhyiad, Oh My God, and TWAT were also played a couple times).  I was just making the point that VR had NO catalog to choose from except GNR/STP songs and GNR had 4 albums worth of material to choose from (5 if you wanna include TSI).  They still managed to play 6 new songs, a more than acceptable number I'd say.  I hope that makes sense.

[W 23 AXL II]

i dont know where else to say this, and i just wanna say it...


This album should have been released in 2006, when the hype was really at an all-time high. That was the time to strike....everyone was talking about the new Guns and their comeback from 2002.

The momentum has been slowed down, but there is still time to release it. If its not out this year, Id say forget it, its never happening.

[rubinho.ma]

i dont know where else to say this, and i just wanna say it...


This album should have been released in 2006, when the hype was really at an all-time high. That was the time to strike....everyone was talking about the new Guns and their comeback from 2002.

The momentum has been slowed down, but there is still time to release it. If its not out this year, Id say forget it, its never happening.

You're right. I think the same way. What makes me really worried is if this band will ever have the time/chance to work in another album, a second and even a third one. Axl claimed that they have material for 2 or 3 albums, but Chinese Democracy alone is taking so long that it makes no sense to hope for a new discography. That would take a lifetime to happen...

[W 23 AXL II]

I remember people on this site joking around about how, in 2008, we're going to be saying, "THIS IS THE YEAR"....and we would all laugh at that, b/c.....2008 seemed sooooo far away, and surely we'd have the album before 2008.



Well......

[russtcb]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.  The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.  There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.  GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.  VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

I don't really get the point here. You're saying neither band should rely on the back catalog anymore?

No, someone brought up the point that VR was playing 8 new songs before Contraband came out.  Well obviously they would have to play a large number of new songs since they were a brand new band.  Someone had brought up the argument about songs being played before albums come out and how GNR is now playing 6 songs that COULD be on CD (Rhyiad, Oh My God, and TWAT were also played a couple times).  I was just making the point that VR had NO catalog to choose from except GNR/STP songs and GNR had 4 albums worth of material to choose from (5 if you wanna include TSI).  They still managed to play 6 new songs, a more than acceptable number I'd say.  I hope that makes sense.

Okay, I missed that before, I apologize.

The way I look at it though, any band would be nuts nowadays to play over half their new album before it's released.

[faldor]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.? The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.? There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.? GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.? VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

I don't really get the point here. You're saying neither band should rely on the back catalog anymore?

No, someone brought up the point that VR was playing 8 new songs before Contraband came out.? Well obviously they would have to play a large number of new songs since they were a brand new band.? Someone had brought up the argument about songs being played before albums come out and how GNR is now playing 6 songs that COULD be on CD (Rhyiad, Oh My God, and TWAT were also played a couple times).? I was just making the point that VR had NO catalog to choose from except GNR/STP songs and GNR had 4 albums worth of material to choose from (5 if you wanna include TSI).? They still managed to play 6 new songs, a more than acceptable number I'd say.? I hope that makes sense.

Okay, I missed that before, I apologize.

The way I look at it though, any band would be nuts nowadays to play over half their new album before it's released.

I agree.  Unless the album is never meant to see the light of day.  If that's the case let's blow this mother out!  I still hold out hope that it will be released, eventually and IF it is I don't think I'd want to hear anything else new.  6+ songs is enough for me.  Of course if more songs were to leak I can't say I'd have the willpower to stay away from them.  I'm human.

[russtcb]

Oh I do enjoy both bands, I didn't want to compare the 2 bands but it's kind of hard.  The comparison always seems to get brought up in these parts.  There really is NO comparison about "new" GNR and VR the first time around.  GNR had a huge catalog to choose from, yet they're still playing 6 "new" songs.  VR had NO catalog since they were a new band so they HAD to play original songs unless they wanted to play all GNR/STP covers.

I don't really get the point here. You're saying neither band should rely on the back catalog anymore?

No, someone brought up the point that VR was playing 8 new songs before Contraband came out.  Well obviously they would have to play a large number of new songs since they were a brand new band.  Someone had brought up the argument about songs being played before albums come out and how GNR is now playing 6 songs that COULD be on CD (Rhyiad, Oh My God, and TWAT were also played a couple times).  I was just making the point that VR had NO catalog to choose from except GNR/STP songs and GNR had 4 albums worth of material to choose from (5 if you wanna include TSI).  They still managed to play 6 new songs, a more than acceptable number I'd say.  I hope that makes sense.

Okay, I missed that before, I apologize.

The way I look at it though, any band would be nuts nowadays to play over half their new album before it's released.

I agree.  Unless the album is never meant to see the light of day.  If that's the case let's blow this mother out!  I still hold out hope that it will be released, eventually and IF it is I don't think I'd want to hear anything else new.  6+ songs is enough for me.  Of course if more songs were to leak I can't say I'd have the willpower to stay away from them.  I'm human.

Agreed on all accounts. It's like, if there isn't ever gonna be a way for me to pay for this material then by all means PLEASE start playing more live!