Scott Weiland Interview Washington Post

[FunkyMonkey]

Velvet Revolver, A Legal Substance

 J. Freedom du Lac, Pop Music Critic for The Washington Post, talked to Weiland in advance of Velvet Revolver's appearance Sunday at Virgin Festival.

Washington Post: The new Velvet Revolver album, "Libertad," doesn't sound quite as hard or venomous as the first one, "Contraband." Is that a reflection of where you are personally now versus then?

Scott Weiland: Nah, it's more that we figured out who we were and kind of wanted to explore different musical directions. When I joined the band, those guys had been playing together for a while -- just jamming with no singer. They were already in this rhythm. I came in and had to mold that rhythm into my own to make it work musically. But that first record did have a lot of ferocity and a lot of anger. I think that's where I was at the time. And I think everyone sort of felt like we had something to prove. On this record, we really wanted to push the envelope and try a lot of different things, to bring out a lot of influences. My own musical influences range from the Stones and Beatles to jazz, bossanova, the Carpenters and Jerry Jeff Walker. As I've gotten older, I've found that I'm not afraid anymore to throw my influences into making a record. Making an album should be an honest experience. It shouldn't be about trying to gauge where popular music is today; it should be about artistic expression and putting down what you want to put down. That's what we did.

WP: It's interesting to hear you say that you're not afraid to throw your influences into an album, because Stone Temple Pilots were slagged for being a copycat grunge band -- a Pearl Jam knockoff. Did that criticism sting?

SW: It definitely bothered me at the time. But I think on the song "Plush," you can make that connection to Pearl Jam just like you can make the connection from Rod Stewart's song "Hot Legs" to the Rolling Stones. "Plush" happened to be our breakout single. You have to remember that at the time, Pearl Jam was getting slagged brutally by Nirvana and the media. They weren't considered critics' darlings until Kurt (Cobain) passed away. And then he (Eddie Vedder) sort of took over as the disturbed and bitter genius, I guess. But I'm so proud of the legacy that Stone Temple Pilots has. We've written close to 18 Top 20 hits, and many of them are still played on the radio today. That's the legacy we wanted to create. We wanted to be played on rock radio for the next 20-30 years. That's actually happening. The only thing that's left unfinished is the completion of the story. I feel that there could be a better final chapter, a better bookend. If all the planets line up, you never know what might happen one day.

WP: I read an interview with Duff where he talked about the heavy touring load after "Contraband" came out. Pointing out that you guys were together nonstop once that album landed, he said: "I don't care what five people you do that to, you're gonna get sick of each other." As all of you came out of successful bands that imploded, do you talk about making sure something like that doesn't happen with Velvet Revolver?

SW: When things really go south and we start getting in that big drill car and driving to hell, we usually get together and talk. How successful that is depends on everybody's state of mind at the time. Usually it works out fairly well. But lately, there's been some things that have happened that definitely shouldn't have happened -- where band members have irresponsibly used the media as a tool and said things that they shouldn't have said. And that's [expletive] blasphemy, because a band should be a safe haven regardless of what goes on. It doesn't matter what kind of problems a family is having; it should always stay in the family. The [expletive] media is bad enough as it is. It seems like everyone's got an agenda, and the agenda seems to be selling magazines or air time with sensational stories. Look at the [expletive] with Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan, these tragic figures. It's not like any of that stuff is new; that kind of [expletive] has been happening for years. It's just that the media didn't hound them. When people fell, they either fell again or they picked themselves up and figured it out. But it wasn't on E! or the celebrity news shows 100 percent of the time. It's become an addiction for the American public. People are more interested in that [expletive] than the upcoming election.

WP: Does performing sober feel any different to you than when you would get on stage in an altered state? Do the sensations change?

SW: First of all, I'm not sober. I haven't done drugs in 3 1/2 years, so I call myself clean. But I do drink a little bit. That's worked for me, but I don't recommend it for everybody. But yeah, there's a huge difference on stage. When I'm not completely loaded, it's a much more vulnerable place. I can feel the music, I can feel the energy and I really have to put it out there. When I was loaded, I was just oblivious. I was so emotionally detached that I was cocksure. I'd do anything. I'd go out on stage in a women's bondage suit.

WP: "Libertad" includes a surprising cover of ELO's "Can't Get It Out of My Head." Spill beans: Who's the band's closet Jeff Lynne fan?

SW: My wife and I are huge ELO fans. Brendan (O'Brien, who produced "Libertad") is as well. He came into the studio and started playing "Can't Get It Out of My Head," just strumming the chords. I started singing and he started doing the harmonies. It was one of those fun little moments. He looked at me afterwards and said: "You know, it wouldn't t be the worst idea I've ever had." I thought we could approach it in a completely different way, and I did that with the vocals, which are kind of Grandaddy-esque. Granddaddy is one of my favorite bands, and I love how he sounds like his voice is filtered through a water faucet. I tried to get that sound and really sing it quiet and lonely. And Slash put down some of the most amazing guitar I've ever heard. I was really hoping people would get where we were coming from on that tune. Unfortunately, critics haven't really gotten where we're coming from on that.

WP: When you tried out for Velvet Revolver ...

SW: No, no, no. I need to get this straight for once. I never [expletive] tried out for Velvet Revolver. I've never tired out for any band. I wouldn't even try out for the [expletive] Rolling Stones. Stone Temple Pilots broke up and I was working on my solo album. The last thing I wanted to do was join another [expletive] rock band after all the [expletive] drama I went through with Stone Temple Pilots. I ran into Duff at the gym and he told me they were forming a new band and that I should check it out and see if it's something I'd be into. They gave me two different CDs with about 40 to 50 songs. The first CD was basically atrocious. It was stuff they'd also written with Izzy (Stradlin, another Guns refugee), and it sounded like Bad Company gone wrong. I told them I was busy and wasn't really interested in the idea. About three months after that, I got another CD with some more songs and there were two that I thought were pretty good. One was called "Slither." I thought it sounded a lot like Stone Temple Pilots around "Core" -- like "Piece of Pie or "Wicked Garden." In my head, I was thinking: What would I do with this? If you listen to the vocal on it, it's like very much "Core"-era Scott Weiland. During that time, my wife and Duff's wife became friends, and they lobbied me to join the band. What ended up happening was, my wife and I separated. She was with her kids in L.A. and I I was living in our apartment in Hollywood, doing a lot of drugs. And those guys were clean at that time. I said that if I did get into this band, it might be an opportunity to hook up with some guys who aren't using and had gone down the same sort of path that I had. Right around that time, their manager called me and said there were two soundtrack opportunities on the table for a lot of money. Do the songs, get a big paycheck and if you find out you work well together, just take it from there. I didn't show up the first day because I was loaded and couldn't make it. But I came the next day and we got together and started working out Pink Floyd's "Money" and writing a new song, "Set Me Free." And I joined. But never, ever, ever, never did I try out.

WP: Did you have any trepidation about joining a group that featured three former Guns N' Roses guys?

SW: It had been a long time since those guys had worked at that kind of level -- a long time since Guns N' Roses as people knew them were together and had that big fan base. My only worry was that people might think it was sort of ridiculous. I didn't want it to be like when Styx and those kinds of bands get together at the county fair or when Def Leppard tours. My worry was that people would come and see it because they wanted to be reminded of seeing Guns N' Roses in 1991. It was just six months earlier that my band had broken up. I didn't want another [expletive] band. I had a completely different plan in mind. But we got together and ended up making a great record.

Edited to fit page...complete interview here: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/virgin-festival/2007/08/post_1.html

[stolat]

Like the bookend to grunge that he is, he wouldn't even try out for the Stones man!? 

[Ali]

The first CD with Izzy's songs was atrocious?  Izzy is such a damn good songwriter, I find that hard to believe.

It also sounds to me like he is more than leaving the door open to an STP reunion.

Ali

[D]

I think VR are done


That interview coupled with the horrible Libertad sales dont bold well.

[A Private Eye]

Matt's said some pretty bad things in the media recently I wonder if Weiland means him in the interview when he's talking about band members saying stuff irresponsibly in the media?

I wonder if the Izzy stuff sounded too GNR for him, it seems like he prefered the stuff that sounded more STP. Not really a big surprise but it's a shame, I bet there was some great stuff on the Izzy cd.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

I stopped reading at the part where he mentioned a possible STP reunion in the future...just too excited by the prospect!

[Robman?]

yeah, in my opinion, due to the lack of amazing sales with Libertad, the band will tour, and then go their seperate ways.

[Booker Floyd]

Its strange that Weiland would criticize his band members, presumably Slash, for making irresponsible comments while he makes his own regarding the material they wrote with Izzy and a STP reunion.  We knew he wasnt into that first batch of material, but to describe it as "atrocious" is unnecessary. 

The negativity in this band at the moment certainly suggests that it might end sooner than later, and Im fine with that.  I still think theyre a great band that made a great album with Libertad, but its been over four years and Id love to see Stone Temple Pilots reunite.  If they choose to stay together, Im fine with that too.

[GeorgeSteele]

Its strange that Weiland would criticize his band members, presumably Slash, for making irresponsible comments while he makes his own regarding the material they wrote with Izzy and a STP reunion.?

I'm guessing that the criticism was directed at Matt, not Slash, for Matt's recent comment about how nobody is waiting for STP to reunite.  In which case, Scott now commenting that he's hopeful for a reunion would make sense.

[killingvector]

I guess he wasn't much of a Guns N  Roses fan either. His worries about the legacy that Slash, Duff and Matt may have carried is pretty sad.

Honest interview, but creepy.

[COMAMOTIVE]

Velvet Revolver, A Legal Substance

 J. Freedom du Lac, Pop Music Critic for The Washington Post, talked to Weiland in advance of Velvet Revolver's appearance Sunday at Virgin Festival.
 They gave me two different CDs with about 40 to 50 songs. The first CD was basically atrocious. It was stuff they'd also written with Izzy (Stradlin, another Guns refugee), and it sounded like Bad Company gone wrong. I told them I was busy and wasn't really interested in the idea. About three months after that, I got another CD with some more songs and there were two that I thought were pretty good. One was called "Slither." I thought it sounded a lot like Stone Temple Pilots around "Core" -- like "Piece of Pie or "Wicked Garden." In my head, I was thinking: What would I do with this? If you listen to the vocal on it, it's like very much "Core"-era Scott Weiland.

Edited to fit page...complete interview here: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/virgin-festival/2007/08/post_1.html

Ummm....did he say atrocious?  Brutal honesty, for better or for worse

[estrangedpaul]

Like the bookend to grunge that he is, he wouldn't even try out for the Stones man!??

  I think you might have pissed the point completely.

If you read it in its proper context he just means - how can i put this - that he believes he has achieved too much in his career, and that he has too much pride to try out for other bands (or too big an ego, if you like). He used the Stones as an extreme example coz obviously everyone would want to join them, but he's saying that he would have too much pride or whatever even to audition for the stones. Make sense?

I wouldn't read too much into the atrocious comment - its probably something the band all laughed about since. I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on the "big fat paycheck for two soundtracks" comment.

[chineseblues]

We knew he wasnt into that first batch of material, but to describe it as "atrocious" is unnecessary. 

Not only is it unnecessary, but it's moronic. We all know how great of a songwriter that Izzy is, so I really don't think anything he wrote with the rest of those guys at that time was bad. Hell I don't think I have ever heard a song that Izzy has written that wasn't good.

[killingvector]

None of us have heard the Izzy sessions; it is impossible to know how they turned out. But Booker is right about Scott's reaction: he could have expressed himself more politely.

[Falcon]

, for Matt's recent comment about how nobody is waiting for STP to reunite.?

Where was this said?

[GeorgeSteele]

, for Matt's recent comment about how nobody is waiting for STP to reunite.?

Where was this said?

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/sorum%20scared%20about%20the%20end%20of%20velvet%20revolver_1038918

[estebanf]

SW: No, no, no. I need to get this straight for once. I never [expletive] tried out for Velvet Revolver. I've never tired out for any band. I wouldn't even try out for the [expletive] Rolling Stones.

so, does this mean that the complete ''VH1 Inside Out: The Rise Of Velvet Revolver'' was just bullshit?

Weiland calling Stradlin's music ''atrocious''? 

, for Matt's recent comment about how nobody is waiting for STP to reunite.

Where was this said?

That is on the latest rolling stone. You can find the links visiting VR's official website. I think it was posted here but then deleted.

[Jizzo]

, for Matt's recent comment about how nobody is waiting for STP to reunite.

Where was this said?

rolling stone

[Ali]

None of us have heard the Izzy sessions; it is impossible to know how they turned out. But Booker is right about Scott's reaction: he could have expressed himself more politely.

Yeah, that's true.  But, have you ever heard Izzy write a song with Slash and Duff that was atrocious?

Ali

[killingvector]

None of us have heard the Izzy sessions; it is impossible to know how they turned out. But Booker is right about Scott's reaction: he could have expressed himself more politely.

Yeah, that's true.  But, have you ever heard Izzy write a song with Slash and Duff that was atrocious?

Ali

I have to admit I haven't.