Are VR Sellouts?

[Butch Français]

the guy who wrote that sounds like some Wanna be Rockstar that never got to be so he is jealous and mad.

yeah, Ive read rockers that never made it say the same thing even about Axl. pointless drivel by a bunch of never has beens.

[D]

Most rock journalist are guys who write about it cause they can't do it.

How the fuck can some dude with a pen who cant play shit criticize anybody?

[chinese democrazy]

That angry, teething with jealousy article didn't sit well with a lot of people.  Rather quickly there was a rebuttal article posted in answer.

http://www.sleazegrinder.com/sleazyreaderweilandrebuttal.htm

Oh, and the author of this write-up is a lot hotter, subsequently giving her article more integrity 

[Ali]

I have to admit that it was strange to see Scott abruptly change his look, specifically with regards to what clothes he was wearing when he joined VR.  There were several pictures where he was wearing this leather hat and these sunglasses that made me think, wow, he looks a lot like Axl in the late '80's.  But, that's just his look, not his voice or music.

That article is way over the top and goes beyond, in its tone, as a mere dislike or lack of appreciation for his music.  It seems like this guy is crossing the line between talking about the artist in anything resembling a fair way and just using Weiland as a target for his anger and frustrations as a result of whatever is pissing him off.

At the same time, I don't agree with what the rebuttal said about STP turning out more cohesive songs than Pearl Jam or Nirvana.

Ali

[D]

Why Ali?

I like STP better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam

[Jim Bob]

yea i wuld say they area sell out band.  i've always saw that side of Slash even in his GNR days since the first time I saw him play with Micheal Jackson.

[Ali]

Why Ali?

I like STP better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam

I just don't think their songs are more cohesive than Nirvana or Pearl Jam.  Their songs are cohesive, but not moreso than Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Look at "Teen Spirit", that is such a simple yet catchy song, how is that anything but cohesive?  As far as better, to be honest, my main sticking point with STP, or VR, for that matter, is that I don't get anything significant, on a consistent basis, from Weiland's lyrics.  It's hard for me to get a deep attachment to STP, or much of VR's songs because I just don't get a lot of depth from his words.  For me, no lyrical depth more often than not equals no significant emotional impact from and emotional attachment to the songs.

Ali

[RageNirvanaNIN]

yea i wuld say they area sell out band.  i've always saw that side of Slash even in his GNR days since the first time I saw him play with Micheal Jackson.

? So EVH is a sell out too? And anyone that has ever contributed to another artist work? Sell outs change their image for the better of money , to appeal to the masses. We wanna talk sell outs , look at metallica and st.anger.

[Booker Floyd]

I have to admit that it was strange to see Scott abruptly change his look, specifically with regards to what clothes he was wearing when he joined VR.  There were several pictures where he was wearing this leather hat and these sunglasses that made me think, wow, he looks a lot like Axl in the late '80's.  But, that's just his look, not his voice or music.

While Scott was still in STP (circa 2000).

[CheapJon]

sell outs? yes they are exactly what KISS is like, maybe worse

[Ines_rocks!]

sell outs? yes they are exactly what KISS is like, maybe worse

ohh... shut up 

[Gonzo Axl]

NO 

[Ali]

I have to admit that it was strange to see Scott abruptly change his look, specifically with regards to what clothes he was wearing when he joined VR.? There were several pictures where he was wearing this leather hat and these sunglasses that made me think, wow, he looks a lot like Axl in the late '80's.? But, that's just his look, not his voice or music.

While Scott was still in STP (circa 2000).

I never noticed that during his STP tenure.  I have him from the early to mid-nineties locked in my mind's eye.  Regardless, it's still stealing Axl's look

Oh yeah, according to the image URL, that picture is from 2003.

Plus, I went to STP's original site, and I couldn't find any pictures of Weiland wearing that hat, although granted some of them were blurry fan shots.  It genuinely appears that the leather look became much more pronounced after joining VR.  I didn't say that makes him sellout.  I just thought it was a bit strange.

Ali

[chineseblues]

I have to admit that it was strange to see Scott abruptly change his look, specifically with regards to what clothes he was wearing when he joined VR.  There were several pictures where he was wearing this leather hat and these sunglasses that made me think, wow, he looks a lot like Axl in the late '80's.  But, that's just his look, not his voice or music.

While Scott was still in STP (circa 2000).

Prove it! http://www.stonetemplepilots.com/photogallery_fan.html thats the STP official site, not 1 picture on there has him doing the leather and cop hat look. Not 1 picture, including the pictures from 2000.

[Timothy]

I have to admit that it was strange to see Scott abruptly change his look, specifically with regards to what clothes he was wearing when he joined VR.  There were several pictures where he was wearing this leather hat and these sunglasses that made me think, wow, he looks a lot like Axl in the late '80's.  But, that's just his look, not his voice or music.

While Scott was still in STP (circa 2000).

Prove it! http://www.stonetemplepilots.com/photogallery_fan.html thats the STP official site, not 1 picture on there has him doing the leather and cop hat look. Not 1 picture, including the pictures from 2000.

Seen a couple of boots were he was rocking the look from back with STP.

[Smoking Guns]

ha!? The Bon Jovi thing is kind of funny.? ?I mean my next 2 favorite bands after GNR and VR are AC/DC and the Rolling Stones.? Though I love some Bon Jovi songs, they are in a totally different area of rock.? ?? But it's cool.? Rock on D, no matter who you like.

[Wheres Izzy]

Why Ali?

I like STP better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam

I just don't think their songs are more cohesive than Nirvana or Pearl Jam.? Their songs are cohesive, but not moreso than Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Look at "Teen Spirit", that is such a simple yet catchy song, how is that anything but cohesive?? As far as better, to be honest, my main sticking point with STP, or VR, for that matter, is that I don't get anything significant, on a consistent basis, from Weiland's lyrics.? It's hard for me to get a deep attachment to STP, or much of VR's songs because I just don't get a lot of depth from his words.? For me, no lyrical depth more often than not equals no significant emotional impact from and emotional attachment to the songs.

Ali

I like Nirvana but most of Kurts lyrics are drugged out nonsense. Some songs make sense, "Sappy" (sometimes called verse chorous verse) is great. If you like Nirvana than STP thats fine with me, millions do. But don't say your reason for liking nirvana better is cause scott's lyrics don't make sense when almost non of kurts songs ever did.

[chinese democrazy]

[Falcon]

Why Ali?

I like STP better than Nirvana and Pearl Jam

I just don't think their songs are more cohesive than Nirvana or Pearl Jam.? Their songs are cohesive, but not moreso than Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Look at "Teen Spirit", that is such a simple yet catchy song, how is that anything but cohesive?? As far as better, to be honest, my main sticking point with STP, or VR, for that matter, is that I don't get anything significant, on a consistent basis, from Weiland's lyrics.? It's hard for me to get a deep attachment to STP, or much of VR's songs because I just don't get a lot of depth from his words.? For me, no lyrical depth more often than not equals no significant emotional impact from and emotional attachment to the songs.

Ali

I like Nirvana but most of Kurts lyrics are drugged out nonsense. Some songs make sense, "Sappy" (sometimes called verse chorous verse) is great. If you like Nirvana than STP thats fine with me, millions do. But don't say your reason for liking nirvana better is cause scott's lyrics don't make sense when almost non of kurts songs ever did.

Let's not go down this road.

Thanks,
Falcon

[Gonzo Axl]

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