Accountability

[SLCPUNK]

Cheney's office, White House subpoenaed

Cheney's office subpoenaed - Politics - MSNBC.com

[TAP]

He'll probably make subpoenas illegal in response.

[Gordon Gekko]

Well since VP Strangelove "is not part of the Executive", I would think that he will not be able to invoke Executive Privilege. So the extruded court battles should be interesting.

[fuckin crazy]

I thought the VP held a cabinet position.

[freedom78]

Well since VP Strangelove "is not part of the Executive", I would think that he will not be able to invoke Executive Privilege. So the extruded court battles should be interesting.

I doubt they'll be all that interesting.  Rather, I'm certain the first court that sees this will say "That's fucking ridiculous...read the goddamned Constitution!" (perhaps with less profanity).

[The Dog]

"Good work! Thanks to pressure from our online community and many others, we've learned that the Vice President's office "will not pursue the argument that he is separate from the executive branch."

From an email from Ted Kennedy

[freedom78]

"Good work! Thanks to pressure from our online community and many others, we've learned that the Vice President's office "will not pursue the argument that he is separate from the executive branch."

From an email from Ted Kennedy

You get emails from Ted Kennedy?  What are you...a member of the Chappaquiddick Swim Club? 

[The Dog]

"Good work! Thanks to pressure from our online community and many others, we've learned that the Vice President's office "will not pursue the argument that he is separate from the executive branch."

From an email from Ted Kennedy

You get emails from Ted Kennedy?  What are you...a member of the Chappaquiddick Swim Club? 

nah, hes a good friend of mine.

i signed up for some senate democrat thing and I get emails from tons of Democrats now.  I got on John Edwards email list - his are pretty annoying.  Hes not getting any "coulter cash" from me!!   

[freedom78]

"Good work! Thanks to pressure from our online community and many others, we've learned that the Vice President's office "will not pursue the argument that he is separate from the executive branch."

From an email from Ted Kennedy

You get emails from Ted Kennedy?  What are you...a member of the Chappaquiddick Swim Club? 

nah, hes a good friend of mine.

i signed up for some senate democrat thing and I get emails from tons of Democrats now.  I got on John Edwards email list - his are pretty annoying.  Hes not getting any "coulter cash" from me!!   

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

[SLCPUNK]

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ws_bXU6Rjk

I think she represents the right wing quite well.

[freedom78]

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ws_bXU6Rjk

I think she represents the right wing quite well.

Odd.  Oh well, I can't stop buying her books in protest, since I don't buy them anyway. 

[SLCPUNK]

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ws_bXU6Rjk

I think she represents the right wing quite well.

Odd.  Oh well, I can't stop buying her books in protest, since I don't buy them anyway. 

Where is that outrageous accent of yours?

[freedom78]

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ws_bXU6Rjk

I think she represents the right wing quite well.

Odd.  Oh well, I can't stop buying her books in protest, since I don't buy them anyway. 

Where is that outrageous accent of yours?

It became difficult to keep doing, and seemed inappropriate in some threads (the wrestling double murder/suicide, for example).  ANd I was making mistakes.  I'll probably bring it out again, though I'm thinking of continually changing my avatar, and adopting the characteristics of whomever I choose.  Next might be John Goodman's character, in the Big Lebowski. 

[fuckin crazy]

Round ball and weed ... what could go better?

Well ... now that I think of it? Henry and Ann

[The Dog]

Yeah, I've been out of touch with the news for the last couple of days, so I'm just now catching up on the Coulter/Edwards issue.  She said he should be killed in a terrorist attack?  God, that woman needs to get fucked...preferably in the pooper. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ws_bXU6Rjk

I think she represents the right wing quite well.

Odd.  Oh well, I can't stop buying her books in protest, since I don't buy them anyway. 

Where is that outrageous accent of yours?

It became difficult to keep doing, and seemed inappropriate in some threads (the wrestling double murder/suicide, for example).  ANd I was making mistakes.  I'll probably bring it out again, though I'm thinking of continually changing my avatar, and adopting the characteristics of whomever I choose.  Next might be John Goodman's character, in the Big Lebowski. 

If anyone hasn't read it yet, you HAVE TO read Kim Jong's review of Libertad.  Its a classic post.

[freedom78]

If anyone hasn't read it yet, you HAVE TO read Kim Jong's review of Libertad.  Its a classic post.

Oh, Herro!  I didn't know your worked for North Korean Radio!  Some people don't rike to read my reviews because they're intimidated rearry rong torso and enormous American kirring miritary! 

[SLCPUNK]

by Joel S. Hirschhorn (OpEdNews.com)

When someone in high elected office shows the nation how vulnerable our Constitution is, we should be thankful for the wakeup call. Like many ruthless dictators, evil kings, and monster generals, Dick Cheney is the leading practitioner of the ends-justify-the-means mentality, where only his vision of the desired ends counts. And if this means disregarding and disobeying the Constitution, torturing prisoners, killing thousands of American soldiers, disrespecting Congress, destroying our environment, embracing the invasion of illegal immigrants, increasing out national debt, and disregarding the will of the vast majority of Americans, so be it. Serving corporate interests rather than serving the people is Cheney?s brand of patriotism.

Cheney?s self-righteous ego is bigger than George W. Bush?s, and what makes Cheney more striking is that he is enormously smarter and more competent than Bush, his token boss. He is so dangerous and frightening that no impeachment of Bush effort ever stood a chance. Not as long as ?President Cheney? enters your consciousness. Cheney became Bush?s shield.

When reality hits the fan we use the-lessons-learned approach to stay sane. With his finger-in-the-eye disdain for what anybody else (or history) thinks of him, Cheney offers a far better lesson learned benefit than the stumbles and fumbles of Bush-the-smirker. Bush is a joke. Cheney is a monster.

Take Cheney?s current view that he is a part of the legislative branch, not the executive, so he does not have to comply with an Executive Order on reporting use of secret materials. It is wildly inconsistent with his prior claims of executive privilege. But Cheney has no use for logical consistency. Only what Cheney wants matters. (The only law that Cheney regularly obeys is gravity.)

When we witness the brazen acts of Cheney and Bush we should envision these types of constitutional amendments.

An amendment could explicitly state that the Vice President is a member of the Executive Branch, and the Office of the Vice President must comply with Executive Orders. And perhaps we should consider a statement of the criteria that the President can invoke for firing the Vice President with the consent of Congress.

And why not consider a different method of breaking ties in the Senate. If someone from the Executive Branch can do it, then why not someone from the Judicial Branch? Why not the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court? Or, better yet, why not make the constitutional solution what is the House uses. A tie vote means that the question fails. We could eliminate the position of President of the Senate.

As another example, consider the frequent assertion of executive privilege by Cheney and Bush to withhold information that Congress believes it needs. The Constitution does not provide for executive privilege. Considering how strong the presidency has become and the predilection to invoke executive privilege, we need an amendment that explicitly says there is no such thing as automatic executive privilege. Any assertion of it should be presented to the Supreme Court and only it should rule that it is appropriate in a particular case to protect the national interest.

As the final example, consider the clear need for an amendment that prohibits the President from using any kind of signing statement to announce and justify not obeying part of a newly signed law.

We can give thanks for Dick Cheney just like we give thanks eventually that a catastrophe or disaster makes us stronger in the future. He has exposed constitutional weaknesses. The principles that define the best of our nation must be protected through amendments that learn from history. In particular, how the ingenuity and boldness of people has allowed them to disobey and dishonor those principles. Dick Cheney sought and achieved power sufficient to make a mockery of our nation?s finest principles and he was enabled by George W. Bush who apparently sought more guidance from his God than from our Constitution.

One thing is clear. History provides little confidence that Congress will propose constitutional amendments that deserve full public discussion. Now is the time to use what our Constitution offers us: an Article V convention for proposing amendments. If we are to make our federal government work for the good of we the people, then we require the nation?s first Article V convention ? the goal of Friends of the Article V Convention at FOAVC.ORG. Why is it now so appropriate? Because Americans now have so little confidence in Congress, the President, and the Vice President, and because the corruption of politicians by money has reached unprecedented heights.

As much as politicians deserve our mistrust, we the people deserve to have an Article V convention. Politicians fear it because they know the public will support amendments that make the government subservient to us ? the sovereign American citizens. Politicians are not supposed to rule us. They are so supposed to justly represent us. But they do not. They represent the moneyed interests that control them. As Thomas Jefferson said, ?An elected tyranny is not what we fought for.?

Our Constitution should not allow the government to make us victims and our nation hated by so much of the world. That?s what Cheney should teach us. Now, it?s up to us.

Pray that a petulant Bush does not learn from Cheney, exploit the Constitution by resigning, and create President Cheney.

[fuckin crazy]

If anyone hasn't read it yet, you HAVE TO read Kim Jong's review of Libertad. Its a classic post.

Oh, Herro! I didn't know your worked for North Korean Radio! Some people don't rike to read my reviews because they're intimidated rearry rong torso and enormous American kirring miritary!

ROTFLMFAO : You sound just like my good friend Il Sung Kim.

[freedom78]

by Joel S. Hirschhorn (OpEdNews.com)

Cheney?s self-righteous ego is bigger than George W. Bush?s, and what makes Cheney more striking is that he is enormously smarter and more competent than Bush, his token boss. He is so dangerous and frightening that no impeachment of Bush effort ever stood a chance. Not as long as ?President Cheney? enters your consciousness. Cheney became Bush?s shield.

Thoughts like this popped into my mind, every time someone started to yell "IMPEACH!"  That said, I'm not sold on the idea that Cheney is worse than Bush.  Bear with me.  Here's my case:

1.) Many think Cheney is evil incarnate.

2.) Those who think Cheney is evil incarnate, also think that Bush is an idiot and Cheney's pawn. 

3.) Thus, if this is so, then aren't we getting a lot of Cheney policies, through Bush?

4.) So, in a sense, this is the Cheney Presidency.  We know he was a driving force for the Iraq War (which I'll go ahead and label as the biggest mistake of the Bush Presidency).  So, we'd still probably be there, were he President.  In a sense, Bush dominated by Cheney is not much different than just Cheney.

OK...so I've tried to establish that they'd be equally bad in a lot of ways.  Here's why Cheney might be better.

1.) He'd be less anti-gay.  Yeah, ok.  That's all I've got.  But still...it'd be an improvement. 

Um...not that I'm pining for a Cheney (official) administration.  I just don't think it would (or COULD) be much worse than it is...unless he started ANOTHER war. 

[fuckin crazy]

That dick Cheney