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« on: June 26, 2007, 11:31:15 PM »

GOP support for Iraq war slips



By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Republican support for the Iraq war is slipping by the day. After four years of combat and more than 3,560 U.S. deaths, two Republican senators previously reluctant to challenge President Bush on the war announced they could no longer support the deployment of 157,000 troops and asked the president to begin bringing them home.

"We must not abandon our mission, but we must begin a transition where the Iraqi government and its neighbors play a larger role in stabilizing Iraq," Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, wrote in a letter to Bush.

Voinovich, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, released his letter Tuesday ? one day after Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, the panel's top Republican, said in a floor speech that Bush's strategy was not working.

"The longer we delay the planning for a redeployment, the less likely it is to be successful," said Lugar, who plans to meet later this week with Stephen Hadley, Bush's national security adviser.

Lugar and Voinovich are not the first GOP members to call for U.S. troops to leave Iraq. Sens. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, Olympia Snowe of Maine and Gordon Smith of Oregon made similar remarks earlier this year. But their public break is significant because it raises the possibility that Senate Democrats could muster the 60 votes needed to pass legislation that would call for Bush to bring troops home.

Their remarks also are an early warning shot to a lame duck president that GOP support for the war is thinning. The administration is not expected until September to say whether a recent troop buildup in Iraq is working.

"Everyone should take note, especially the administration," said Snowe, R-Maine, noting Lugar's senior position within the GOP. "It certainly indicates the tide is turning."

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 11:36:49 PM »

It's getting hot in the kitchen for the GOP.

If they don't address Iraq and soon, they could very well lose in '08.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 11:53:34 PM »

is it an election year for those guys or something?

why the change of heart.  A couple of years too late eh?
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 12:07:46 AM »

I bet if poland was there in force Iraq would ahve been done and over by now............................................................................ Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 12:08:46 AM »

I bet if poland was there in force Iraq would ahve been done and over by now............................................................................ Roll Eyes

Don't you know the guys who caught Sadamm were Polish!!   hihi
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 12:10:07 AM »

Thankyou Prometheus for including we Poles in every thread! My work is done......  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 12:12:36 AM »

I bet if poland was there in force Iraq would ahve been done and over by now............................................................................ Roll Eyes

The Poles would have been smart enough to go after the actual terrorists and stay clear of Iraq.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 08:44:10 AM »

We can't stay there forever, Iraqis and others in the region need to step it up. They say an insurgency takes about 10 years to break. America won't be there past 2009 i predict.  And nobody wants Iraq to become a failed state.

We should have stayed home in 2003. But we diddn't. But cutting and running would make things even worse.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 09:59:27 AM »

Well, Iran borders Iraq, and we all know they want to go in there too. Would be cheaper than to fly them all the way home.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 10:04:03 AM »

Yes, it is an election year for most republicans who are having the change of heart........
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 10:24:44 AM »

But cutting and running would make things even worse.

With out a 'strong man' in control , that whole region has been a clusterfuck since the first part of the last century . Lord Curzon was an intelligent man , but we are still receiving the dividends from his ignorance of geography .
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 01:13:28 PM »

is it an election year for those guys or something?

why the change of heart.  A couple of years too late eh?

Trust me when I say that Dick Lugar would be reelected to his seat if his competition were the ghost of Abe Lincoln. 

He may not be the first Republican to take this position, but he is the first Republican who's an expert on foreign policy to do so.  His position will give a lot of cover to others wanting to switch sides, and he knows that, as the senior Republican on the Foreign Relations committee.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 01:36:22 PM »

is it an election year for those guys or something?

why the change of heart.  A couple of years too late eh?

Trust me when I say that Dick Lugar would be reelected to his seat if his competition were the ghost of Abe Lincoln. 

He may not be the first Republican to take this position, but he is the first Republican who's an expert on foreign policy to do so.  His position will give a lot of cover to others wanting to switch sides, and he knows that, as the senior Republican on the Foreign Relations committee.

I hear ya, but I would guess the majority of those saying we need to get out now are the ones who are more worried about losing their position than they are about the war itself.

Support for the war continues to decline, even amongst republican voters.  I'm shocked all of the major repub candidates are so pro-war.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2007, 02:14:29 PM »

I hear ya, but I would guess the majority of those saying we need to get out now are the ones who are more worried about losing their position than they are about the war itself.

On occasion, fear of loss of power actually leads people to make good decisions. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 04:36:18 PM »

ironically, its a choice between endless war fueled by the presence of foreign troops or genocide if they leave

I think its time to cut and run and do all we can to keep the genocide confined to one place

I suggest a giant wall

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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2007, 04:37:38 PM »



...you got a better idea?

A time machine?
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2007, 04:46:01 PM »

ironically, its a choice between endless war fueled by the presence of foreign troops or genocide if they leave

I think its time to cut and run and do all we can to keep the genocide confined to one place

I suggest a giant wall

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2007, 04:47:43 PM »

How 'bout a "no touching" policy to boot?
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2007, 04:50:36 PM »

How 'bout a "no touching" policy to boot?

 rofl  Good call! 
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2007, 06:14:11 PM »

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