Slash "Looking Forward" to Chinese Democracy

[novrain91]

I think any honest fan of past gnr (or rock music in general) -- would have to agree that Chinese Democracy's few tracks we've heard are on a totally different level than anything Velvet Revolver has put out, or probably ever will.  With that said though, it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.    release the damn album!

[stolat]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.? ? release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

[jarmo]

Who doesn't look forward to hearing some real music?





/jarmo

[Grouse]

Who doesn't look forward to hearing some real music?





/jarmo

Exactly can't wait to put Libertad in my car stereo!

[stolat]

Can't wait to play CD through proper speakers likes it deserves!

[Jim Bob]

I think any honest fan of past gnr (or rock music in general) -- would have to agree that Chinese Democracy's few tracks we've heard are on a totally different level than anything Velvet Revolver has put out, or probably ever will. 

really you should have stopped right there.

[oldgunsfan]

its surprising he is looking forward to it since everything we've heard thats gonna be on Chinese Democracy blows VR's mediocre material out of the water.? ?

in your humble opinion ofcourse....

The GnR songs are on an entirely different level that VR does not reach or even come close to.? ?Those are the facts.

Hardly factual, just your opinion stated as such.

So chill.

And that's not a request.

You can't tell me VR creates masterpiece epic songs like Madagascar or The Blues, or solid rockers like Chinese Democracy or Better.? Those songs all are simply above what VR does.

If you think Maddy and the blues are masterpieces it's obvious you wouldn't like a real rock band....and Better and Chi Dem are hardly rockers....it takes about 2-3 min into the song to get to the "rocker" part

[Ali]

i saw GNR live recently i felt that the guitarists were a bit overindulgent in their solos a bit too much guitar masturbation

Truth be told, I've heard the same thing about Slash's solos.

Ali

[Ali]

its surprising he is looking forward to it since everything we've heard thats gonna be on Chinese Democracy blows VR's mediocre material out of the water.   

in your humble opinion ofcourse....

The GnR songs are on an entirely different level that VR does not reach or even come close to.   Those are the facts.

I don't disagree with you, but the truth is they're two bands trying to do two different things musically.  There's room to enjoy them both should you choose to do so.

Ali

i've listened to libertad (or at least attempted to) at least 6 or 7 times these last few days. I DID try to enjoy both but I can't get into Libertad.  Not my fault and you can't expect everyone to love your precious VR.

Jim Bob,

Like I said, I DON'T disagree with you, but there is room to appreciate both bands, should you CHOOSE to do so.

Ali

[ShotgunBlues1978]

its surprising he is looking forward to it since everything we've heard thats gonna be on Chinese Democracy blows VR's mediocre material out of the water.   

in your humble opinion ofcourse....

The GnR songs are on an entirely different level that VR does not reach or even come close to.   Those are the facts.

Hardly factual, just your opinion stated as such.

So chill.

And that's not a request.

You can't tell me VR creates masterpiece epic songs like Madagascar or The Blues, or solid rockers like Chinese Democracy or Better.  Those songs all are simply above what VR does.

If you think Maddy and the blues are masterpieces it's obvious you wouldn't like a real rock band....and Better and Chi Dem are hardly rockers....it takes about 2-3 min into the song to get to the "rocker" part

Interesting you're saying Better and Chinese Democracy aren't rockers, when actually the riff for Better is heavier than the majority of the "real" rock band's new alt-pop album, the heavier parts of CD are more aggressive than anything on the "real" rock band's new alt-pop album.  While we're at it, IRS is heavier than any song on Libertad.  Does that make you mad?  If those songs aren't rockers then the album you're praising as "real rock" doesn't have any rockers on it either

[Ali]

its surprising he is looking forward to it since everything we've heard thats gonna be on Chinese Democracy blows VR's mediocre material out of the water.? ?

in your humble opinion ofcourse....

The GnR songs are on an entirely different level that VR does not reach or even come close to.? ?Those are the facts.

Hardly factual, just your opinion stated as such.

So chill.

And that's not a request.

You can't tell me VR creates masterpiece epic songs like Madagascar or The Blues, or solid rockers like Chinese Democracy or Better.? Those songs all are simply above what VR does.

If you think Maddy and the blues are masterpieces it's obvious you wouldn't like a real rock band....and Better and Chi Dem are hardly rockers....it takes about 2-3 min into the song to get to the "rocker" part

If you think "Chinese Democracy" isn't a rocker, you need to have your hearing checked or make sure that you have the right track, not some mislabeled Debbie Gibson song.

Ali

[younggunner]

real rock isnt a sound but a feeling. A feeling of when hearing the tune u stand up and wanna tear shit up. A feeling when hearing the tune it makes u pumped up.? A feeling when hearing makes you get up stick your head out of the window and yell..."lets go mets" lets go mets lets go mets! lol


Better and CD give me that feeling. They give me an energy that gets me all tingly. Do they sound like AFD type songs that gave me the same feeling? Nope. But does that mean there not rockers? Nope...hell no...The spirit of gnr lives in these songs. They are ballzy and provide twists and turns. And to even compare cb/lib with half of cd..well....

[novrain91]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.    release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

Do you even know anything about GNR?  Yeah they had drug problems, etc. but the reason that they broke up (talking about Slash and Duff) is because of Axl's personality and procrastination.  Oh and to Jim Bob - I"m a huge GNR fan, old and new, but I can't just give them blind admiration without speaking of the biggest fucking elephant in a musical room ever.  If you really look at what has gone on with GNR the last 7 years (no releases) --Axl basically broke up the greateast band to move in a different direction but instead (once again w/out any released material) he has assembled a bigger band that essentially tours the world playing the original guys songs.  Another side effect of this whole shit storm is that most fans don't even respond that well to the new stuff in concert.  My whole point is that it seems romantic and almost mythical to break up your whole band to try and make this epic album, but it's just plain pathetic and crazy to go about it the way they have the last 7 years.   I like the new band, but that's what they are (glorified cover band) until they actually release something.

[stolat]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.? ? release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

Do you even know anything about GNR??

Do I even know anything about GN'R!    Was Pope John Paul 2 Polish?? 

[oldgunsfan]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.? ? release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

Do you even know anything about GNR?? Yeah they had drug problems, etc. but the reason that they broke up (talking about Slash and Duff) is because of Axl's personality and procrastination.? Oh and to Jim Bob - I"m a huge GNR fan, old and new, but I can't just give them blind admiration without speaking of the biggest fucking elephant in a musical room ever.? If you really look at what has gone on with GNR the last 7 years (no releases) --Axl basically broke up the greateast band to move in a different direction but instead (once again w/out any released material) he has assembled a bigger band that essentially tours the world playing the original guys songs.? Another side effect of this whole shit storm is that most fans don't even respond that well to the new stuff in concert.? My whole point is that it seems romantic and almost mythical to break up your whole band to try and make this epic album, but it's just plain pathetic and crazy to go about it the way they have the last 7 years.? ?I like the new band, but that's what they are (glorified cover band) until they actually release something.

I couldn't agree more if I said it myself

[Ali]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.? ? release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

Do you even know anything about GNR?? Yeah they had drug problems, etc. but the reason that they broke up (talking about Slash and Duff) is because of Axl's personality and procrastination.? Oh and to Jim Bob - I"m a huge GNR fan, old and new, but I can't just give them blind admiration without speaking of the biggest fucking elephant in a musical room ever.? If you really look at what has gone on with GNR the last 7 years (no releases) --Axl basically broke up the greateast band to move in a different direction but instead (once again w/out any released material) he has assembled a bigger band that essentially tours the world playing the original guys songs.? Another side effect of this whole shit storm is that most fans don't even respond that well to the new stuff in concert.? My whole point is that it seems romantic and almost mythical to break up your whole band to try and make this epic album, but it's just plain pathetic and crazy to go about it the way they have the last 7 years.? ?I like the new band, but that's what they are (glorified cover band) until they actually release something.

I have been a fan of GN'R's for almost 20 years, so I know quite a bit about GN'R.  I'll say this:  the fact is that the old members left on their own accord.  The quit.  Unless you were there, you have no standing or evidence to dispute that.  Everything that you might reference is either one side of the story or pure conjecture.  Short of having a gun to their head, the old members cannot claim they were coerced or forced into quitting.

Ali

[stolat]

it's pretty pathetic that Axl broke the original band up to basically tour the world playing the majority of old songs.? ? release the damn album!

Huh! Axl broke the old band up?!! I think you might find that drugs and alcohol issues broke the original band up.
 

Do you even know anything about GNR?? Yeah they had drug problems, etc. but the reason that they broke up (talking about Slash and Duff) is because of Axl's personality and procrastination.? Oh and to Jim Bob - I"m a huge GNR fan, old and new, but I can't just give them blind admiration without speaking of the biggest fucking elephant in a musical room ever.? If you really look at what has gone on with GNR the last 7 years (no releases) --Axl basically broke up the greateast band to move in a different direction but instead (once again w/out any released material) he has assembled a bigger band that essentially tours the world playing the original guys songs.? Another side effect of this whole shit storm is that most fans don't even respond that well to the new stuff in concert.? My whole point is that it seems romantic and almost mythical to break up your whole band to try and make this epic album, but it's just plain pathetic and crazy to go about it the way they have the last 7 years.? ?I like the new band, but that's what they are (glorified cover band) until they actually release something.

I couldn't agree more if I said it myself

And the fact that the other band members were usually too out of it to play properly.......

[novrain91]

Once again...GNR always had issues (drugs, lates starts, etc) , but the main problem became Axl and his behavior towards the next cd (according to the remaing original members).  Axl, Slash, and Duff have all admitted that they had differences on this next album and the time is was taking (and axl's behavior), so they walked away.  That's not speculation on my part, that's known fact according to the three guys.  I like really like Slash and Duff because they were a part of the famous GNR, and I really admire Axl for what he has done in the past and what I think he could do in the future.  With all of that said, he continually fucks himself over in the eyes of most everyone who is not a dumbass.  I always have and still am really excited about Chinese Democracy, but it's far past being a joke to the majority.  If he locked himself in a room for 13 years and never said anything it would be one thing, but we're on atleast the 3rd Chinese Democracy tour...That's not the way to do it or cool...Refute that bitches!!

[ZRO]

its surprising he is looking forward to it since everything we've heard thats gonna be on Chinese Democracy blows VR's mediocre material out of the water.   

in your humble opinion ofcourse....

The GnR songs are on an entirely different level that VR does not reach or even come close to.   Those are the facts.

Hardly factual, just your opinion stated as such.

So chill.

And that's not a request.

You can't tell me VR creates masterpiece epic songs like Madagascar or The Blues, or solid rockers like Chinese Democracy or Better.  Those songs all are simply above what VR does.

Sorry to break the news to you, but..

Let It Roll, Just Sixteen, Get Out The Door > Better, Chinese Democracy

Last Fight, Messages, Gravedancer > Madagascar, The Blues

[stolat]

Once again...GNR always had issues (drugs, lates starts, etc) , but the main problem became Axl and his behavior towards the next cd (according to the remaing original members).? Axl, Slash, and Duff have all admitted that they had differences on this next album and the time is was taking (and axl's behavior), so they walked away.? That's not speculation on my part, that's known fact according to the three guys.? I like really like Slash and Duff because they were a part of the famous GNR, and I really admire Axl for what he has done in the past and what I think he could do in the future.? With all of that said, he continually fucks himself over in the eyes of most everyone who is not a dumbass.? I always have and still am really excited about Chinese Democracy, but it's far past being a joke to the majority.? If he locked himself in a room for 13 years and never said anything it would be one thing, but we're on atleast the 3rd Chinese Democracy tour...That's not the way to do it or cool...Refute that bitches!!

You wrote one side of the story very well.........
If that's the best you can up with.........well then  , I can't argue with that.......