LIBERTAD HAS LEAKED - (NO LINKS INSIDE)

[Smoking Guns]

This album is what I had hoped for when the band first got together...  Its killer, and I like Contraband!

[Falcon]

Falcon, I agree, but what songs to you kill?? I would hate to make that decision.?

Haven't heard Libertad in it's entirety so I can't answer that just yet.

So..

As things progress, I'd prefer they stay away from a majority of the covers. ?I could care less
about "Wish You Were Here" or "Used To Love Her".

UTLH is an absolute momentum killer, no novelty songs need apply.

Slither, STB, Superhuman, FTP, Big Machine, DIFTK, SMF should be staples of the set along with 1 STP/GNR tune for good measure.

From what I've heard so far, SBQM, LIR, Just 16 gotta be in there somewhere.

More to come upon further listening.

[Smoking Guns]

Falcon, I agree, but what songs to you kill?? I would hate to make that decision.?

Haven't heard Libertad in it's entirety so I can't answer that just yet.

So..

As things progress, I'd prefer they stay away from a majority of the covers. ?I could care less
about "Wish You Were Here" or "Used To Love Her".

UTLH is an absolute momentum killer, no novelty songs need apply.

Slither, STB, Superhuman, FTP, Big Machine, DIFTK, SMF should be staples of the set along with 1 STP/GNR tune for good measure.

From what I've heard so far, SBQM, LIR, Just 16 gotta be in there somewhere.

More to come upon further listening.

Falcon, the new album is so damn good, there is no room for Big Machine, or DIFTK.  I would rather have YGNR over Superhuman.  Its that good, no bs.  Big Machine would be the absolute worst song on Libertad, as it is on Contraband. 

I agree, no more UTLH, but their cover of Wish You Were here is freaking awesome.  But I could let it go if I had too.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

I don't see the fillers everyone else is talking about?!?!?!?!

What are your thoughts on She Mine, For A Brother and She Builds Quick Machines? 

i don't think the band sees SBQM as a filler with it as the first single + they recorded a lot of songs and picked the best.. so it has no fillers.. all songs are good in some way

Oh, I'm sure they don't think it's filler.  But I'm not fond of it at all and don't really have any desire to hear it again.  She Mine is not pleasant to listen to, for me.  And For A Brother is just plain and I don't think anything about it is redeeming.  Nothing else I would call filler, but those three are basically pointless for me as a listener, I have little desire to listen to any of them again

On a positive note, some of the songs have sounded better on furthur listens, like Get Out The Door, an infectious song that I wasn'timpressed by at first but has grown on me, and it's cool to hear that Dave wrote this because previously he was so anonymous. 

My overall impression of the album is about the same as the first time I heard it.  3 very disposable tracks, the rest of the album ranging from solid to very good, the greater diversity of sounds is a good thing but I still think CB had more good-to-really good songs than this album

[mustaine]

I kinda like the album (well, parts of it)... Slash's solo work is much, much better than on Contraband.

Don't like the album as much as some of the others here but it's A-OK.

[GeraldFord]

Leave "illegal i song" off the setlist, that's their weakest song, IMHO.

[TrueRock&Roll]

I kinda like the album (well, parts of it)... Slash's solo work is much, much better than on Contraband.

Don't like the album as much as some of the others here but it's A-OK.

I'm with you mustaine.  I was hoping for something incredible, and I feel really let down on this.  The boys have to be capable of putting something better than this out. 

[faldor]

I'm absolutely loving "Last Fight" right now.  I could tell that from the initial minute clip they gave us.  I haven't been able to track down the rest of the album (hint, hint), but I'm excited at the prospects as I see most people don't even list "Last Fight" as one of the top songs on the album.

On the contrary, the other 3 songs I've heard I haven't had the same GREAT appreciation for.  "Spay" sounds okay.  That could grow on me.  "She Mine" I don't like, not at this point at least.  "SBQM" is alright, not much of a first single, but it rocks a little.  "Just Sixteen", again has some potential, but "Last Fight" is the only song that has hit me right away.

[Smoking Guns]

I love Last Fight too.. I cannot pick a favorite.  Its amazing.  Blown away.  Blown away.

[Booker Floyd]

I'm absolutely loving "Last Fight" right now.  I could tell that from the initial minute clip they gave us.  I haven't been able to track down the rest of the album (hint, hint), but I'm excited at the prospects as I see most people don't even list "Last Fight" as one of the top songs on the album.

One reason might be that many of us have been have been hearing it for months, so the "new" songs are getting more attention at the moment. 

[1987]

what's annoying for me is that i want "gravedancer" as one file and "don't drop that dime" so that i don't have to listen through gravedancer to hear "DDTD"


(same with on TSI, where i want "i don't care about you" on a seperate file so if i wanna hear it on repeat i don't have to listen to "look at your game girl")

if someone can fix that for me, please PM

if you are using itunes.. just change when the song starts and convert it to aac.. then change when the song ends.. and convert to aac..  it will create a new file from the time you choose to start or stop the songs.. its pretty easy.. my instructions kinda suck though..

[faldor]

My only complaint with the album, or VR in general is that there's not enough Slash.  He shines in flashes, but both discs sound way more STP than GNR.  I was a fan of Stone Temple Pilots, and not to put down the DeLeo brothers, but when you've got an asset like Slash, you've got to show him off as much as you can.  Am I wrong here?

[metallex78]

My only complaint with the album, or VR in general is that there's not enough Slash.? He shines in flashes, but both discs sound way more STP than GNR.? I was a fan of Stone Temple Pilots, and not to put down the DeLeo brothers, but when you've got an asset like Slash, you've got to show him off as much as you can.? Am I wrong here?

Not at all. I couldn't agree more.

Most of the songs are simple bar chord riffing, which as you said, when you have someone of Slash's caliber, you expect a bit more.
His soloing in parts is pretty impressive though.

[faldor]

My only complaint with the album, or VR in general is that there's not enough Slash.? He shines in flashes, but both discs sound way more STP than GNR.? I was a fan of Stone Temple Pilots, and not to put down the DeLeo brothers, but when you've got an asset like Slash, you've got to show him off as much as you can.? Am I wrong here?

Not at all. I couldn't agree more.

Most of the songs are simple bar chord riffing, which as you said, when you have someone of Slash's caliber, you expect a bit more.
His soloing in parts is pretty impressive though.

Yeah, don't get me wrong I really like Contraband and I'm sure Libertad will grow on me more and more once I get my official copy.? But yeah, not enough Slash.? What happened to the 3 solo songs, 2 minute solos?? Where'd they go.? He gives me a tease and then Scott interrupts.? What gives?? I don't mean to complain or sound derogatory.? I do like the band, I really do.? And I appreciate them releasing 2 albums in 3 years, (AHEM!!!).

[Naupis]

What happened to the 3 solo songs, 2 minute solos?

(Sadly ) 80's cock rock died out years ago. If they started putting stuff like that out (and I would love more Slash) they might as well have grabbed Sebastian Bach as a lead singer because they would be playing in front of about 4 people a night after being brandished as dated 80's burnouts stuck playing the exact same stlye stuff they did 20 years ago.

While the solos may be a little shorter, Slash & the entire band for that matter sound fresher and more relevant than they have in years. We should be applauding them for diversifying their sound and style from one album to the next, as Slash has been repeatedly accused of only wanting to be like AC/DC and play the same style rock song for 20 years. Libertad pretty clearly debunks the notion that Slash is not adaptable to new sounds and is stuck in the 80's.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

What happened to the 3 solo songs, 2 minute solos?

(Sadly ) 80's cock rock died out years ago

So did most basically every style of music they are playing on Libertad though.  And almost all of the most popular songs off the album, judging from the responses on here, could have been made in the 80's for that matter.  Aside from the post grunge nonsense that is SBQM, the whole album is made up of songs that wouldn't have sounded out of place in the 70's, 80's, or early 90's.  This album definitely doesn't have a contemporary feel.  In fact, if anything, Contraband sounded more contemporary.  So I don't see why a few "cock rock" songs as you put it would hurt them.  As a matter of fact Just 16 is very much a "cock rock" type of song would've fit right in during Sunset Strip sleaze rock's heyday, in terms of music and subject matter and it's getting a great response for the most part.  So I don't see why it would kill them to have at least one or two songs where Slash just dominates and goes all out

[metallex78]

Slash doing excessive soloing and riffing is what he's famous for, I'd rather have him sounding like that than trying to sound like every other bland band and current music out there. Besides, he played like that in his days in GN'R and they were never considered 'cock rock' so why would he now?

That's what kinda irks me about the bland and poppy moments of Libertad. If I can't get my rock needs fulfilled form listening to a band featuring Slash, then there's not much hope for rock music in general is there.

[Booker Floyd]

Slash doing excessive soloing and riffing is what he's famous for, I'd rather have him sounding like that than trying to sound like every other bland band and current music out there. Besides, he played like that in his days in GN'R and they were never considered 'cock rock' so why would he now

Your criticism is fair, but attributing his decision to "trying to sound like every other bland band" isnt.  The reason for his current style may not be more complicated than its simply what he feels like playing.  Perhaps he feels that two-minute solos dont best serve the songs?  You obviously disagree, but you dont have to impugn his motives to do so.

[Naupis]

Besides, he played like that in his days in GN'R and they were never considered 'cock rock' so why would he now?

He was in his 20's then, and his 40's now, not to mention that big guitar music was just generally more in vogue then than it is now. What was cool when he was doing it then could very easily be construed as a cheesey old man stuck in the 80's in today's day in age. It is awful easy to become a charicature of yourself if you don't spruce up the routine a little bit. On Libertad Slash has managed to still sound like Slash, yet not a Slash making the same song he did 20 years ago Slash. On the whole it is a poppier sound than we are accustomed to from him, but continuing to evolve his sound and style helps keep him from falling into the trap of being nothing more than a big guitar 80's relic the way many from that era are seen now even though it was cool then.

[freedom78]

Ribertad - A Korean Dictator's Review, in Accordance with the Sociarist Rifestyre

Oh, Herro!  This is Dear Reader Kim Jong Ir, of the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea, here to terr you what to think about the ratest piece of American propaganda against the socialist lifestyre, "Ribertad," by Vervet Revorver! 

Let it Rorr - This song sounds too much rike an American carr to arms!  But, it's a strong, fast, hard rocking opener.  Nice riffage and I rike what Duff does with the bass.  It gives the song a rich sound.  There is a short soro, but it's hardry Srash's best.  In fact, the guitar work after the soro, during the rast 30 seconds of the song, are much more interesting.  But, not arr songs have to feature a mindbrowing soro, and I think it's a strong opener to the arbum. 8/10

She Mine - She yours?  NOT IN KOREA, where everyrun berongs to me!  Despite capitalist rhetoric, this is a decent forrow up.  The pace srows considerably with this one, after what seemed like a bristering opener.  Again, I rike the opening riff, and some of the guitar effects are interesting, too.  Weirand's vocars are pretty strong here, too.  But, again, outside of some strong riffing, the lead guitar work is not up to the standards that fans of Srash expect. 7/10

Get Out the Door -  Weirand's vocals on this one are rearry different from what he usuarry derivers.  I rike that, because it changes things up.  But I'm starting to wonder if Srash reft the band, or something.  Another uninspired soro. 6/10

She Buirds Quick Machines -  Weirand wants to smash right through my spotright!  It sounds rike he's trying to defect to the South!  But, finarry, a decent soro! 8/10

The Rast Fight - I rike this one!  The drumming in the beginning sounds rike what the army marches to in the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea!  This is the first rear "srow" song on the arbum, and it serves as a good medium for Weirand's vocars.  This song wourd have been better situated, I think, as a croser to the arbum.  Of course, the ryrics are arr wrong!  In the real rast fight, Kim will crush the Americans! 7/10

Pirrs, Demons, & Etc. -  This one starts with a good riff, and Kim says that good riffs inspire peopre to rive on 700 carories per day!  This soro starts off fairrey weak, but improves, despite being far too short.  However, the song is definitery firrer. 5/10

American Man - I don't rike Americans and their propaganda, and this song isn't much better.  A good chorus doesn't repeat the same line four times in a row. 5/10

Mary Mary - Weirand sounds a rittre gram in his singing, here.  This is one of the better songs on the arbum, but just when some interesting guitar work starts to happen, they go back to the vocar parts.  Still one of the arbum's best. 9/10

Just Sixteen - JUST sixteen?  Ereven is ord enough to join the Korean Army!  Haven't I heard this song before?  No?  They're starting to sound the same, to be honest, because a rot of the songs seem to go at about the same pace.  On the bright side, a fairrey uninspired song is saved because the soro (actuarry, two of them!) here is one of the better ones on the arbum.  [b/10[/b]

Can't Get It Out of My Head - The onry thing that shourd be in your head is North Korean radio!  Oh, werr.  This is actuarry a rearry good cover, and thankfurry it's adds some contrast to an arbum that was starting to go in circres.  Arso, we've been waiting through nine songs for Srash to wair rike this, and he finarry derivers a great soro...which sounds a rot rike Joe Perry's work with Aerosmith!  Not that that's a bad thing, of course. 9/10

For a Brother - Right back to the riff driven hard rock, I see.  This song has some nice guitar and vocal work, but it doesn't see to rearry go anywhere.  Perhaps it would be better if it were "For Dear Reader Kim Jong Ir"!  6/10

Spay - Spaying reads to ress animars, and fewer carories, so this song worries me!  But I rike the aggressiveness of the chorus!  This song has barrs, so "Spay" isn't rearry a good name! 8/10

Gravedancer - Soon the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea wirr be dancing on the grave of the American peopre!  But Vervet Revorver...they rearry srow it down for this one.  I rike the song...it's a good barrad, and shourd work werr rive.  But then I found out that this track had hidden American propaganda!  What are they trying to sneak into Korea?  It's firthy American cowboy music, just rike George W. Bush would risten to!  I see why they wourd try to sneak this in, as it's one of the arbum highrights, and reminds me of my youth ristening to the Rorring Stones.  9/10

Overarr, I think that Vervet Revorver's "Ribertad" is a decent arbum.  It's fun and ristenabre, which is good.  But, the band doesn't take full advantage of their member's tarents, in typicar razy American fashion, and at points it suffers because of it.  Ret's face it...Mick Warr is a pushover, if he thinks this arbum is a 9/10.  I just wish he worked for the UN.
OVERARR: 7/10