Slash accused of smoking on stage

[Krispy Kreme]

I agree with estrangedpaul. The law does not say "no one can smoke in public except famous rock stars." It is the law, and in democracies the law applies to all equally. A person has the right to disagree with the law and to vote for politicians who may try to change the law, but it is inappropriate to claim, for example:

a. no one complained
b. no harm was done
c. the law should not be enforced

Those  types of attitudes are dangerous to society and lead to anarchy. For the sake of societal order, laws have to be applied to everyone. If a law is bad, it should be changed. But until it is changed, or rescinded, it is necessary to enforce the law  or you start down the slippery slope to anarchy.

[freedom78]

a. no one complained
b. no harm was done
c. the law should not be enforced

But the point is that a.) if no one complains and b.) no harm is done, then c.) it shouldn't be fucking illegal!  Hell, there are plenty of things that a.) are complained about and b.) certainly cause harm but c.) aren't illegal...the KKK would be a good example. 

The fact is that politicians want to regulate silly little behaviors because some excessively vocal minority gets their panties in a bunch over it. 

[mrlee]

smoking should be banned all together, however that is not the case and i think its ridiculous to even think slashs cigarette could harm any of the crowd.

[freedom78]

smoking should be banned all together

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer! 

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.   

[mrlee]

smoking should be banned all together

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer! 

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.   

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

[Grouse]

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

why would you be against the idea of having non-smoking and smoking bars?

I mean everybody knows that smoking may cause lung cancer but hey it's their choice to light one up...

[freedom78]

smoking should be banned all together

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer! 

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.   

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

Smoking does kill, though I'm not sure a non-smoker can say that it's pointless.  If a smoker sees a point, then doesn't that, in fact, make it something other than pointless? 

But the question isn't whether it's good or bad for you.  The question is whether different people are allowed to have different views.  The anti-smoking groups don't believe so.  They cannot accept the fact that, despite it being bad for you, some people want to smoke.  If we outlaw everything that kills, then almost everything will be outlawed.  For example:

---1.2 Million people die in car accident each year (worldwide)
So let's outlaw driving!

---In 2000, the UN estimated that 529,000 women died during childbirth.
So let's outlaw fucking!

---And how many drink themselves to death, either in one night or over the course of 50 years?

But most people like to drink, drive, and fuck (not simultaneously...usually  ), so we don't outlaw those. 

I want to make everyone happy, with a middle ground.  Anti-smoking groups can't stand the middle ground.   

[freedom78]

why would you be against the idea of having non-smoking and smoking bars?

I mean everybody knows that smoking may cause lung cancer but hey it's their choice to light one up...

The argument against it is that those poor bartenders have to suffer through all that smoke.  Yeah...as if 95% of bartenders aren't smokers, too.

[don_vercetti]

smoking should be banned all together

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer! 

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.   

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

Some people don't see the entertainment in spending hundreds of pounds in listening to rock music in order to have your hearing destroyed.  Maybe they get some pleasure out of it you can't understand. 

[SlashRock]

I have nothing against people smoking. Just don't fuckin blow the smoke in my fucking face! You might want to kill yourself but I don't want to go with you..

[estrangedpaul]

a. no one complained
b. no harm was done
c. the law should not be enforced

But the point is that a.) if no one complains and b.) no harm is done, then c.) it shouldn't be fucking illegal!

You are talking about this particular situation though. There are many environments where passive smoking causes problems. Its funny; i didn't expect the law to work but it did because for whatever reason, most smokers supported it.

[mrlee]

smoking should be banned all together

You're right of course.  I just received a bunch of cigars in the mail.  Arrest me officer! 

The problem with this issue is that it's just a bunch of blowhards on either side, who refuse to reach an acceptable middle ground. 

Where I live, you currently cannot smoke in any restaurants or bars.  Of course, smokers no longer frequent these places as often, thus leading to less profit.  I cannot imagine why it isn't acceptable to have smoking and non-smoking bars.  Or, even easier, to have smoking and non-smoking hours.  But the anti-smoking bunch are such douchebags that they can't BEAR the idea that one person, somewhere, might want to light up.  Thank God they've focused their collective efforts on this, rather than the War, or education, or social security.   

smoking kills, its pointless, it costs a person alot of money being addicted to it, cancer is not nice and smoking is a leading cause of lung cancer, its not nice to see a family member die from it, i should know.

i hate the smell of of them, i dont wanna breath that shit in thanks, ive never tried a cigarette i dont see the entertainment in breathing cancerous smoke through my lungs.

Some people don't see the entertainment in spending hundreds of pounds in listening to rock music in order to have your hearing destroyed.  Maybe they get some pleasure out of it you can't understand. 

thats subject to debate.

rock musics so good, it cant destroy you

rap music, now thats what i call a ear killer.