David Hicks

[stolat]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

[Loaded NightraiN]

hmm not to familar with this... Was he a solider??

[Communist China]

Yeah, I don't like the way Guantanamo is used. In fact, it often looks detestable. The world leader cannot abuse human rights, and then wag a finger at the starving and the sick in Africa for its abuses. Securing human rights for the whole world is imo the most important matter of global politics right now.

[C0ma]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

What Army was he training with in Afghanistan?

Obviously an Australian furthering his military career by training with the Taliban is in no way suspicious... I'm sure he was in no way a danger to the western world...

If you don't want fleas, don't lay with dogs.

[freedom78]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.  But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.  Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.  But not this seemingly endless process.  If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.  That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.  But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

[Loaded NightraiN]

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.? But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.? Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.? But not this seemingly endless process.? If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.? That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.? But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Are you kidding me?!?!Geneva Concention protects soliders.. Not cowards who dress up as little old ladies and suicide bomb evrything 

[stolat]

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.? But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.? Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.? But not this seemingly endless process.? If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.? That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.? But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Are you kidding me?!?!Geneva Concention protects soliders.. Not cowards who dress up as little old ladies and suicide bomb evrything?

But you see, David Hicks wasn't even charged with that ^

[TAP]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.  But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.  Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.  But not this seemingly endless process.  If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.  That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.  But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Definitely agree. But that douchebag should be glad he gets to serve out a sentence in the comfort of an Australian prison, given that he was fighting for people who treat their prisoners  by beheading them , disembowelling them and leaving them to die in the desert, or ripping them apart with their limbs tied to motorcycles.

[stolat]

But there is no evidence that it was Al Queda that he was training with.
I heard that it was a Thai? unit he was with - just using the equipment......

David Hicks did 5 years hard time in Guantanamo - he is a broken man.......

[TAP]

But there is no evidence that it was Al Queda that he was training with.
I heard that it was a Thai? unit he was with - just using the equipment......

David Hicks did 5 years hard time in Guantanamo - he is a broken man.......

His father stated that he fought for the Taliban and what I posted above is what the Taliban does.

[stolat]

The torture techniques used by the Americans on David Hicks should also be under scrutiny. Hell, even the English pulled their men out of there for humane reasons.

Just beacause the American techniques aren't as obvious as ripping off limbs whilst being tied to motorbikes doesn't mean they aren't as bad.....

You either survive your limb being ripped off by a motorbike or you don't.........

[TAP]

The torture techniques used by the Americans on David Hicks should also be under scrutiny. Hell, even the English pulled their men out of there for humane reasons.

Just beacause the American techniques aren't as obvious as ripping off limbs whilst being tied to motorbikes doesn't mean they aren't as bad.....

You either survive your limb being ripped off by a motorbike or you don't.........

Not one motorbike, four motorbikes. How about beheading, what's the survival rate for that?

[2112]

He should have thought about that the shit would hit the fan if he played with talibans.

[freedom78]

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.  But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.  Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.  But not this seemingly endless process.  If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.  That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.  But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Are you kidding me?!?!Geneva Concention protects soliders.. Not cowards who dress up as little old ladies and suicide bomb evrything 

Actually, they protect much more than soldiers.  You should read it, before making such limited assertions. 

[stolat]

The torture techniques used by the Americans on David Hicks should also be under scrutiny. Hell, even the English pulled their men out of there for humane reasons.

Just beacause the American techniques aren't as obvious as ripping off limbs whilst being tied to motorbikes doesn't mean they aren't as bad.....

You either survive your limb being ripped off by a motorbike or you don't.........

Not one motorbike, four motorbikes. How about beheading, what's the survival rate for that?

What's the survival rate for 5 years of psychological torture?

[TAP]

The torture techniques used by the Americans on David Hicks should also be under scrutiny. Hell, even the English pulled their men out of there for humane reasons.

Just beacause the American techniques aren't as obvious as ripping off limbs whilst being tied to motorbikes doesn't mean they aren't as bad.....

You either survive your limb being ripped off by a motorbike or you don't.........

Not one motorbike, four motorbikes. How about beheading, what's the survival rate for that?

What's the survival rate for 5 years of psychological torture?

Higher than the rate for beheading.

[stolat]

The torture techniques used by the Americans on David Hicks should also be under scrutiny. Hell, even the English pulled their men out of there for humane reasons.

Just beacause the American techniques aren't as obvious as ripping off limbs whilst being tied to motorbikes doesn't mean they aren't as bad.....

You either survive your limb being ripped off by a motorbike or you don't.........

Not one motorbike, four motorbikes. How about beheading, what's the survival rate for that?

What's the survival rate for 5 years of psychological torture?

Higher than the rate for beheading.

At least that's a nice clean cut ^

[freedom78]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.  But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.  Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.  But not this seemingly endless process.  If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.  That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.  But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Definitely agree. But that douchebag should be glad he gets to serve out a sentence in the comfort of an Australian prison, given that he was fighting for people who treat their prisoners  by beheading them , disembowelling them and leaving them to die in the desert, or ripping them apart with their limbs tied to motorcycles.

If he's guilty of something, then by all means imprison him.  I just don't believe that we need to sink to the level of torturing POWs or "enemy combatants."

[TAP]

What does the rest of the world think about the treatment of Aussie David Hicks who was locked up for 5 years in Guantanamo Bay without being formally charged. He was locked up and badly mistreated/tortured by American 'interogators' who asserted that he was a terroist because he did some army training in Afganastan.

It was only this year when they finally broke his spirit and as a result of pressure from Australian lobby groups that the Americans pressed 'formal' charges and released him back to Australia.

This is one of the worst human rights cases in American and Australian history ever.
No Geneva convention rules happening anywhere near Guantanamo....

Whether he's actually guilty of something or was conspiring with terrorists...I don't know.  But I'm not a big fan of people being held without charges.  Temporarily, while a case is prepared...ok.  But not this seemingly endless process.  If they're Taliban, let them be considered POWs, since we're still engaging Taliban forces.  That's fair, and in accordance with the Conventions.  But they aren't held as POWs, and the Bush administration is trying to claim that that means they're not covered by Geneva, which is shit.

Definitely agree. But that douchebag should be glad he gets to serve out a sentence in the comfort of an Australian prison, given that he was fighting for people who treat their prisoners  by beheading them , disembowelling them and leaving them to die in the desert, or ripping them apart with their limbs tied to motorcycles.

If he's guilty of something, then by all means imprison him.  I just don't believe that we need to sink to the level of torturing POWs or "enemy combatants."

I agree totally. But he's extremely low on my sympathy list.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Beheading people is a little more harsh than what he went thru at Guantanamo.