Terror Plot stopper "not a hero"

[sandman]

Fort Dix Terror Plot Stopper Not A "Hero"

Electronics Store Clerk Who Alerted Police To Alleged Plot Against Soldiers Downplays His Role


(AP) An electronics store clerk credited with providing the tip that broke up an alleged plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix in New Jersey went public Tuesday, saying he spent a day pondering his suspicions before going to authorities last year.

Speaking on CNN's "American Morning," Brian Morganstern described how two men brought him a videotape to transfer to a DVD in late January 2006.

He said he went home from his Circuit City store that night and told his family what he had seen on the video: Ten men at a firing range with handguns, rifles and what he thought were fully automatic rifles. Authorities later said they were chanting "God is Great" in Arabic.

He said he did not know if he should breach the privacy of the customers, who seemed like ordinary guys.

"It was more of a moral dilemma at that point," Morganstern told CNN.

The next day, he said, he talked to his managers at the Mount Laurel store, then called police, sparking a 15-month investigation that led to the arrests on May 7 of six men accused of plotting the attack on the Army installation being used largely to train reservists bound for Iraq.

First, Mount Laurel police visited the Circuit City to see the video. They asked Morganstern to make a copy, which was passed on to state Homeland Security investigators, then the FBI.

In about a month, an FBI informant had infiltrated the alleged plot.

Authorities said they made the arrests just as the suspects were trying to purchase fully automatic weapons in a buy facilitated by an FBI informant.

The suspects are all foreign-born men in their 20s who had spent many years living in Philadelphia's southern New Jersey suburbs. Five are charged with conspiring to kill military personnel and could face life in prison if convicted. The sixth faces up to 10 years in prison if he is convicted of weapons charges. Four of the suspects are ethnic Albanians from the former Yugoslavia, one is from Turkey, and one from Jordan.

After the arrests three weeks ago, authorities praised the electronics clerk who had given them the initial tip. But, citing safety concerns and the integrity of the investigation, neither they nor store officials would reveal the employee's identity.

A Circuit City spokeswoman, Jackie Foreman, confirmed Tuesday that Morganstern was the tipster. Law enforcement authorities did not immediately return telephone calls from The Associated Press seeking comment.

Circuit City has said there were actually two employees who made the tip. The other has not been named publicly, and officials have not detailed what role that person played.

Morganstern told CNN the U.S. Attorney's Office had asked him not to divulge certain details from the video.

The clerk, who remained anonymous until his interview Tuesday, was celebrated as a hero by officials and in the media across the country. He received a proclamation of thanks from the Mount Laurel Police Department.

But that is not how Morganstern sees his action:

"I don't feel like a hero," he said. "I feel like I did the right thing, but I think the real heroes are the men and women overseas and the people in our law enforcement who handled the situation."

[fuckin crazy]

Fort Dix Terror Plot Stopper Not A "Hero"
 Ten men at a firing range with handguns, rifles and what he thought were fully automatic rifles. Authorities later said they were chanting "God is Great" in Arabic.

Drive down any country road in the South on a Sunday afternoon and you will see that ... except it will be in english .

[TAP]

... except it will be in english .

Barely.

[SLCPUNK]

You see, by taking on terrorists in Iraq, we won't have any terrorists here......

See how that works?

[sandman]

we will always have terrorists (or at least terrorist want to be's) in america. and i don't think anyone would try to say otherwise. i think that's true in almost all countries.

[SLCPUNK]

That's not what bitch boy Bush sold all the suckers on.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nr4N8tBwA2Q

[sandman]

That's not what bitch boy Bush sold all the suckers on.

not true. ever read the Patriot Act?

[SLCPUNK]

That's not what bitch boy Bush sold all the suckers on.

not true. ever read the Patriot Act?

That has been his mantra since day one. Just as he said in the video I posted.

What are you going to do next? Tell me that Bush didn't try to tie 9-11 to Iraq as well? That he never said a thing about WMD?

You guys are something else.

[sandman]

the message is that fighting them overseas is PREVENTION. but just like living a healthy lifestyle doesn't guarantee a clean bill of health, fighting terrorism on foreign soil doesn't guarantee there will be no terror attacks in the states. you'd have to be brain-dead to think america has no terrorist living here, and that we are free of any threat.


this is right from bush's website...

"it is important to defeat them overseas so we never have to face them here. Nevertheless, we recognize that we've got to be fully prepared here at the homeland.
The Patriot Act Has Accomplished Exactly What It Was Designed To Do - It Has Helped Us Detect Terrorist Cells, Disrupt Terrorist Plots, And Save American Lives."

- The Patriot Act has helped law enforcement break up terror cells in Ohio, New York, Oregon, and Virginia.
- The Patriot Act has helped in the prosecution of terrorist operatives and supporters in California, Texas, New Jersey, Illinois Washington, and North Carolina.

[SLCPUNK]

That just goes to show he is a double speak liar, just as I have always said he was. Your loony group of republicans did nothing but repeat "Over there and not here" when the war started, now you are pulling out the Patriot Act to back pedal, just like as your emperor with no clothes does.

What's the sound a sheep makes again?

[stolat]

And don't think that Bush's war has anything to do with terrorism. He is a fundamentalist creationist trying to secure his place in 'heaven'.

[sandman]

That just goes to show he is a double speak liar, just as I have always said he was. Your loony group of republicans did nothing but repeat "Over there and not here" when the war started, now you are pulling out the Patriot Act to back pedal, just like as your emperor with no clothes does.

What's the sound a sheep makes again?

you can try to put words in  my mouth all you want. your arguments are weak these days.

the patriot act was passed after we invaded afghanistan (a war most favored). obviously there was a need for protection at home. and in a country with over 300 million people and porous borders, that need will always be there.

everyone can interpret bush's comments how they choose. it seems you thought the message was that fighting terrorism overseas would guarantee we don't have any terrorists here.  so i really don't know what to tell you except to say i didn't interpret the message that way.   

[25]

That's not what bitch boy Bush sold all the suckers on.

not true. ever read the Patriot Act?

No-one has ever read the Patriot Act, unless they happen to have every other piece of relevant legislation ever written on hand for reference. It's like the world's largest collection of footnotes.

[SLCPUNK]

you can try to put words in  my mouth all you want. your arguments are weak these days.

My arguments have all been correct to this day, where yours have been wrong.

My argument today was posting a video in which Bush said exactly what I claimed he did, don't need much more than that to prove my point. Go ahead wiggle around and find something else pathetic  to spew out, nobody gives a shit anymore.

[SLCPUNK]

And don't think that Bush's war has anything to do with terrorism.

It never did.

[The Dog]

the domestic war on terror should have nothing to do with the military and 99% to do with local police/crime fighthing.  the fort dix plot wasn't spoiled due to the patriot act or "the surge", it was a heads up call by a kid and solid local police work (with the help of the FBI later on).

[25]

the domestic war on terror should have nothing to do with the military and 99% to do with local police/crime fighthing. 

And as soon as local policing has met it's traffic ticket quotas for the month it'll be right behind you on that.

[SLCPUNK]

the fort dix plot wasn't spoiled due to the patriot act or "the surge", it was a heads up call by a kid and solid local police work (with the help of the FBI later on).

That and the fact that the "terrorists" were fucking idiots.

[Gordon Gekko]

What's the sound a sheep makes again?

Give them enough yellow ribbon and they'll hang themselves.

everyone can interpret bush's comments how they choose.

First you right stooges told us the Shiites "would greet us as liberators". Now that it turns out they hate us as much as Saddam, they are "terrorists".

Take your interpretations and shove it.

[sandman]

another thread hijacked into bush-hating. you guys are so original. 

the patriot act...

"dramatically expanded the authority of U.S. law enforcement agencies for the stated purpose of fighting terrorism in the United States and abroad."

therefore it has always been pretty obvious to me that alot of people realized there was a need to fight terrorism here in the States.