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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2007, 09:39:27 PM »

I like Reagan a lot as a human being. What you see is what you got, totally genuine. But I will never understand why people rate him so highly as a president. What about the dismantling of the welfare system, not doing anything about the AIDS crisis when it was known to be an epidemic as far back as the early 80s, the absurd "war on drugs," the Star Wars bullshit. And don't tell me that he ended the Cold War, that just isn't so. The USSR would have collapsed anyway.

I agree with your assesment of Ronnie, he is only touted so highly by Repubicans, b/c they have nobody else to look to as a "hero".  The only REALLY good repub was Lincoln.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2007, 10:29:51 PM »

looks like carter was either misquoted or retreating from his earlier statement.

personally i think he should just shut the F up - the white house isn't too far off when they say hes irrelevant.  like someone else said on here, Carter isn't saying anything new, the majority of the country thinks Bush is total shit.
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2007, 10:34:58 PM »

Wow, I was channel surfing tonight and saw the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News and thought I'd turn it on for a few shits and giggles and it was basically a pure attack session on Carter. ?The asian female on the show was using her personal opinion to skewer him at all costs even sinking to 3rd grade level insults. ?They even refered to the Republican party as "us" when they were disowning Ron Paul for making comments about possible conspiracies about 9/11. ?

That show is more hilarious every time I see it.
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2007, 10:37:12 PM »

Wow, I was channel surfing tonight and saw the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News and thought I'd turn it on for a few shits and giggles and it was basically a pure attack session on Carter.  The asian female on the show was using her personal opinion to skewer him at all costs even sinking to 3rd grade level insults.  They even refered to the Republican party as "us" when they were disowning Ron Paul for making comments about possible conspiracies about 9/11. 

That show is more hilarious every time I see it.

was it Michelle Malkin?  She is ann coulters protege.  much much much hotter than Ann but i think she could be loonier.
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2007, 10:45:29 PM »

I agree with your assesment of Ronnie, he is only touted so highly by Repubicans, b/c they have nobody else to look to as a "hero".  The only REALLY good repub was Lincoln.

I think there's something I can appreciate (even if I don't agree) about traditional Republican stances, but the current administration has gone so far off the rocker when it comes to being Republican, that I'm not sure what to think anymore.  How long will Republicans be a foreign interventionist, neo-con party?  How long will social conservatives' domestic policy of bigotry run the party, versus more libertarian interests?  As long as Republicans are social-conservative dominated reckless interventionists, they won't get my vote. 

Reagan, despite his flaws, was CERTAINLY better than this!  He's loved by Republicans for trying to return some decision making power to the states, primarily through block grants. 

He does get too much credit for the end of the Cold War.  Long term US policy of military buildup and arms races, over decades, forced them to spend extravagantly which, when combined with the general failures of Soviet communism, caused its collapse.  Reagan piled it on at the end, but it was a long effort.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2007, 10:47:04 PM »

Wow, I was channel surfing tonight and saw the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News and thought I'd turn it on for a few shits and giggles and it was basically a pure attack session on Carter.? The asian female on the show was using her personal opinion to skewer him at all costs even sinking to 3rd grade level insults.? They even refered to the Republican party as "us" when they were disowning Ron Paul for making comments about possible conspiracies about 9/11.?

That show is more hilarious every time I see it.

was it Michelle Malkin?? She is ann coulters protege.? much much much hotter than Ann but i think she could be loonier.

Yeah that's her! ?She was mumbling and bumbling like an idiot on the program. ?No journalistic integrity whatsoever. ?Somewhere I can picture Condi Rice watching over a small monitor somewhere rubbing her hands together like Mr. Burns while exclaiming, "Exxxxxxxxxxxxcellent".
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2007, 10:53:03 PM »

Wow, I was channel surfing tonight and saw the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News and thought I'd turn it on for a few shits and giggles and it was basically a pure attack session on Carter.  The asian female on the show was using her personal opinion to skewer him at all costs even sinking to 3rd grade level insults.  They even refered to the Republican party as "us" when they were disowning Ron Paul for making comments about possible conspiracies about 9/11. 

That show is more hilarious every time I see it.

was it Michelle Malkin?  She is ann coulters protege.  much much much hotter than Ann but i think she could be loonier.

Yeah that's her!  She was mumbling and bumbling like an idiot on the program.  No journalistic integrity whatsoever.  Somewhere I can picture Condi Rice watching over a small monitor somewhere rubbing her hands together like Mr. Burns while exclaiming, "Exxxxxxxxxxxxcellent".

well she did refer to Fox news as "my guys". 

what a joke.
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2007, 10:56:25 PM »

I agree with your assesment of Ronnie, he is only touted so highly by Repubicans, b/c they have nobody else to look to as a "hero".  The only REALLY good repub was Lincoln.

I think there's something I can appreciate (even if I don't agree) about traditional Republican stances, but the current administration has gone so far off the rocker when it comes to being Republican, that I'm not sure what to think anymore.  How long will Republicans be a foreign interventionist, neo-con party?  How long will social conservatives' domestic policy of bigotry run the party, versus more libertarian interests?  As long as Republicans are social-conservative dominated reckless interventionists, they won't get my vote. 

Reagan, despite his flaws, was CERTAINLY better than this!  He's loved by Republicans for trying to return some decision making power to the states, primarily through block grants. 

He does get too much credit for the end of the Cold War.  Long term US policy of military buildup and arms races, over decades, forced them to spend extravagantly which, when combined with the general failures of Soviet communism, caused its collapse.  Reagan piled it on at the end, but it was a long effort.

i totally agree with you on this admin.  there are plenty of normal moderate republicans out there that I can identify and even respect (witman in NJ was good, rudy as mayor of NYC was good - be a bad pres though, bloomberg is good, arnold is awesome).  as far as reagan, yeah he wasn't nearly as bad as Bush, but it is funny when current repubs talk about him, you would think he flew around the world, reversing time to save the world from sure destruction.  they really lay it on pretty thick.  when ronnie died they acted as if the greatest president ever had just passed.  i'm sure there are repubs who think hes a top 5 pres of all time...
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2007, 10:58:01 PM »

Carter is now saying he was comparing Bush to Nixon only.  A classic case of backpedaling. Just like his presidency.
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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 01:34:16 AM »

Carter is now saying he was comparing Bush to Nixon only.  A classic case of backpedaling. Just like his presidency.


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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2007, 01:41:54 AM »

Carter is now saying he was comparing Bush to Nixon only.  A classic case of backpedaling. Just like his presidency.


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Here's the "backpedaling":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF_ODA_7d_M
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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2007, 10:43:28 PM »

His international policy was terrible as well.

The Sadat/Begin talks brought peace between Israel and Egypt .

Now a joke frim 1980 that might be appropiate today:
Q: If Reagan , Carter , and Anderson were on a sinking ship who would you save ?
A: The economy
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