GN'R in Dublin in 2007?

[Neemo]

interesting....but we gotta wait to even see if its true...all we know is that they are supposed to do about as many dates as they did last year

[Naupis]

Look at the attendance numbers and TRY to tell me the U.S. holds a candle to Europe.

The attendance numbers would be outstanding all across America (not just in limited cities) like they were years ago if GNR were a little more current and a little less nostalgia right now. Their attendance numbers were outstanding across the board here when they used to release albums. Americans for the most part are smart enough though not to pay for the same thing over and over (I guess I'm not one of them having seen the same show multiple times). If Bon Jovi can sell out stadiums in America, GNR could at least sell out arenas acrossed the country consistently if they made some effort to get after it a little.

At the end of the day they are an American rock band. Selling 10 trillion tickets everywhere but America won't make Axl feel a lick better if he can't get his reputation and legacy back in the States.

[sjgotnitro]

BTW; I was born and raised in America... f**k America and f**k their couch. I hope the album comes out while they're in Japan.

Yea F**k You ?too.

[Timothy]

BW; I was born and raised in America... f**k America and f**k their couch. I hope the album comes out while they're in Japan.

Fuck your couch to clown shoes.

[Edward Rose]

BTW; I was born and raised in America... f**k America and f**k their couch. I hope the album comes out while they're in Japan.

Yea F**k You  too.

Try spending a few months in Europe. You'll be embarassed too at what America has become. It also helps when you're old enough to remember what America was like in the 70's...



I still think Guns did better in Europe than America and there are no excuses for it. (below)

Look at the attendance numbers and TRY to tell me the U.S. holds a candle to Europe.

The attendance numbers would be outstanding all across America (not just in limited cities) like they were years ago if GNR were a little more current and a little less nostalgia right now.

This is no excuse. Why would Europe be different? So you're just saying that Europeans appreciate good rock music... even if it's not current, more than Americans do?

Their attendance numbers were outstanding across the board here when they used to release albums. Americans for the most part are smart enough though not to pay for the same thing over and over (I guess I'm not one of them having seen the same show multiple times).

What "same thing" are you talking about? Guns only played each city once in 2006. If you saw them more than once in 2006, that's YOU'RE deal... not anyone elses. And how about Elton John selling out everywhere HE goes without albums packed with new material? Are these "Dumber Americans" than Guns fans?

At the end of the day they are an American rock band. Selling 10 trillion tickets everywhere but America won't make Axl feel a lick better if he can't get his reputation and legacy back in the States.

Really? Is that what you think Axl thinks? I would feel GREAT if I were standing on this stage... (Oh wait... I WAS standing on that stage while Metallica played... and it felt great!  )

[stolat]

Look at the attendance numbers and TRY to tell me the U.S. holds a candle to Europe.

The attendance numbers would be outstanding all across America (not just in limited cities) like they were years ago if GNR were a little more current and a little less nostalgia right now. Their attendance numbers were outstanding across the board here when they used to release albums. Americans for the most part are smart enough though not to pay for the same thing over and over (I guess I'm not one of them having seen the same show multiple times). If Bon Jovi can sell out stadiums in America, GNR could at least sell out arenas acrossed the country consistently if they made some effort to get after it a little.

At the end of the day they are an American rock band. Selling 10 trillion tickets everywhere but America won't make Axl feel a lick better if he can't get his reputation and legacy back in the States.

Can I just give you alittle perspective on this issue from Down Under. GNR virtually disappeared from our satellites pretty much in the 90's. We are pretty isolated here Down Under. Our global perspective can be limited at times. GNR were huge here in the 80's - a big part of our collective consciousness. I was a teenager then. Along came the 90's - Nirvana and the Chilli Peppers kinda filled the gap left when GNR virtually disappeared. Even up until a few months ago, one of the biggest GNR fans of the 80's asked me - whatever happened to Axl? I had heard that he had trashed a hotel in Norway. We grinned at this small snipppet of news........ Other aussies on this site may have a different opinion, but this tour is stirring up ghosts from the 80's. Alot of us are now in our 30's, our age group now hold influential jobs that can influence the rest of our society. Alot of us will be going for nostalgic reasons - but then alot of us will also be talking about the concerts around the water coolers the next day......... and, hey presto...........new CDs will be bought! And also, it will be like the vapid 90's never happened - we'll just pick up where we left off............

[Leddy]

Look at the attendance numbers and TRY to tell me the U.S. holds a candle to Europe.

The attendance numbers would be outstanding all across America (not just in limited cities) like they were years ago if GNR were a little more current and a little less nostalgia right now. Their attendance numbers were outstanding across the board here when they used to release albums. Americans for the most part are smart enough though not to pay for the same thing over and over (I guess I'm not one of them having seen the same show multiple times). If Bon Jovi can sell out stadiums in America, GNR could at least sell out arenas acrossed the country consistently if they made some effort to get after it a little.

At the end of the day they are an American rock band. Selling 10 trillion tickets everywhere but America won't make Axl feel a lick better if he can't get his reputation and legacy back in the States.

Can I just give you alittle perspective on this issue from Down Under. GNR virtually disappeared from our satellites pretty much in the 90's. We are pretty isolated here Down Under. Our global perspective can be limited at times. GNR were huge here in the 80's - a big part of our collective consciousness. I was a teenager then. Along came the 90's - Nirvana and the Chilli Peppers kinda filled the gap left when GNR virtually disappeared. Even up until a few months ago, one of the biggest GNR fans of the 80's asked me - whatever happened to Axl? I had heard that he had trashed a hotel in Norway. We grinned at this small snipppet of news........ Other aussies on this site may have a different opinion, but this tour is stirring up ghosts from the 80's. Alot of us are now in our 30's, our age group now hold influential jobs that can influence the rest of our society. Alot of us will be going for nostalgic reasons - but then alot of us will also be talking about the concerts around the water coolers the next day......... and, hey presto...........new CDs will be bought! And also, it will be like the vapid 90's never happened - we'll just pick up where we left off............

You'll all buy AFD again?

That's the point really, without a new product - people will just see this as a nostalgia trip.  I'm more interested in seeing THIS bands era, and not having to stir up ghosts, but laying down a benchmark for themselves. 

[stolat]

Nah, what I'm saying is that this tour will get the ball rolling and we will want to buy new product. I'm also literally saying that GNR virtually disappeared off the map for us - so we need to pick up where they left off. This tour will remind, influence AND inspire.
PS. most of us had AFD on tape, so buying it on those new fangled CDs aint such a bad thing.....

[Leddy]

itunes man - be a downloading motherfucker 

[ibelieveinaxl]

well if gnr want tour name "chinese democracy-sold out tour" they will touring:
-south america
-australia
-japan
-europe

if they want "noslodout tour" they will touring in usa

Not true. That can sell out shows anywhere.

The US tour would have had more sold out shows if they had played less shows.


For example, New Jersey probably didn't sell out because they played both New York City and New Jersey.

Florida had four shows instead of just one or two.


I think s GN'R tour in USA with shows in the major cities only would sell out.





/jarmo

you're misinformed about US cities...New York and New Jersey have very different demographics.....all big bands play both venues (msg and continental) and sell out both...there is some (not a ton) of overlap except for the die-hards...of course i was at both and was surprised/disappointed jersey didnt sell out....the same goes for florida...florida is a huge state with a lot of different types of people...i went to those shows as well and was disappointed they didnt sell out.....

[jarmo]

Well, some were comparing 2006 to 2002 and said MSG sold out quicker. There's an explanation for that.

Florida might be a big state, but so is Texas.....




/jarmo

[ibelieveinaxl]

Well, some were comparing 2006 to 2002 and said MSG sold out quicker. There's an explanation for that.

Florida might be a big state, but so is Texas.....




/jarmo

i was at the garden in 02 and 06...the 02' show sold out a bit more quickly than 06, but not by much...not more than a few days...also, florida is a big state and is more diverse than texas so i dont get your point...all big plans play mulitple dates in florida and sell out because of the diverse population ...as i said, i was disappointed for the band that the florida shows did not sell out...not one of them was a sell-out..not one....

[jarmo]

also, florida is a big state and is more diverse than texas so i dont get your point...all big plans play mulitple dates in florida and sell out because of the diverse population ...as i said, i was disappointed for the band that the florida shows did not sell out...not one of them was a sell-out..not one....

Let's see.


Well, last time Pearl Jam (a band who manages to sell out arenas without hits on the radio) played in Florida on a proper tour was in 2003.

They played two arena shows (Tampa + West Palm Beach) and one theater (Orlando House Of Blues).

So even a band like Pearl Jam who's been active for years and years didn't schedule four arena shows in Florida.


U2's Vertigo tour had three dates in Florida (2 in Miami + Tampa), Elevation tour Leg 1 (2 shows) and Leg 3 (2 shows).


The Rolling Stones 2005 A Bigger Bang Tour (2 shows), 2006 leg (1 show).




Now, as you can see, not even the biggest band in the world play four arena shows in Florida.

Yes, all of them play multiple shows there, but not as many as GN'R.

You might talk about population all you want, but that's a fact.





/jarmo

[Gunner_Rose]

I want them back in Europe. But I'd like them to play in South America, they have a lot of fans there.

[Calcy]

I think even Axl said that European audiences are more in support if the new line-up than the US. So why not give Europe the tour first, followed by the states? Would even allow the album to get as much airplay as possible in the US in order to boost sales.

[Shoco]

if its november then ithas to be indoor, the point is the obvious venue, and it they do there theyl probably do the odessy in belfast hich is a much better venue

[rds.06]

MILLSTREET ANYONE ?

Yes please, but is prob too small although the prodigy did play there last year.

if its november then ithas to be indoor, the point is the obvious venue, and it they do there theyl probably do the odessy in belfast hich is a much better venue

I agree, it got to be indoor in Nov, more then likely the point and Belfast. But it be cool to see them indoors after seeing  them outside in the rds last summer. Nice trip to Belfast could be on the cards also.....................if this rumour is true of course.

[gandra]

well whole sweeden have about 10 millions people and gnr sold two shows in stocholm
norway have less,and gnr sold out 2 shows in oslo
in budapest gnr had soldout shows (hungary have 8 million people and hungary is ex comunistic country)
in england gnr sold out more than 10 shows,and had festival show in donington

don't get me wrong,but gnr in europe have a real big status
in usa it isn't a word

[gandra]

and for me gunsnroses succes and u2 or bon jovi successes aren't for comparation

u2 and bon jovi music are more commercial,more soft than gunsnroses

i think gunsnroses success is really specific,they had his story and people came with them

I like bon jovi (u2 not0 but my sister was on bon jovi show (and my sister are listining shakira,britney spears...)

Do you get point?

[gally]

hey folks,

can who ever started this thread come back with more info when they can. it would be appreciated.

if there coming to Dublin, then they must be doing another European tour, although not on the festival route this time,

whether its in America or Europe it good to see guns on the road, remember all those years where there was no touring,

rock on guns!