the GNR underground discovered about the leaksers, and the hoarders...

[Dont Try Me]

It's such a shame all these arguments between everyone. About he said she said, he did this, he did that.

Why the fuck are we here in the first place? We are all gnr fans or so I hope. Since the leaks nothing is fun anymore on the boards. Mostly a hostile admosphere since these leaks occured. There is no need to attack jarmo or any other mod for whatever reasons. Sure it's an interesting soap opera and everyone is curious why and how this all happened but it really ruins everything. And that's a bit of a shame.

I bet in 'real life' people never would be so rude against jarmo, mods or any other mods /admin from whatever board. It's such an easy thing to call eachother names on the internet. It doesn't make anyone cool or whatever.

Why can't we all just get allong? 

[sjgotnitro]

Look guys I have no problem if you guys do not like MSL, fine that is your call.

You guys are starting to bully the guy, stop acting like childish fucking kids.



Jarmo is a big boy and can defend himself, no need for his crew to do it for him.

I suspect Jarmo is taking the high road on this, good for him, but you guys are all becoming a bunch of drama queens.

The implying other sites condone leaks is also bullshit.

If they are guilty of anything it is being fan sites not dictatorships. ouch that hurts?

So, we can't ask questions cause you don't like them?

But when he talks bullshit about htgth it's fine?

No go right ahead, by all means, it seems it is beyond deadhorse at this point, keep cracking that whip

Read this post carefully.

The post I just deleted said a lot about you.

Our conversation ends here.

Stay calm, I was just having some fun with you. No offense was intended. Sorry if I upset you.

[Tommie]

Hahaha, its seems that on this board the answer to everything is to either delete it, or ban them.

[god of thunder]

is this forum still about gnr

Yes, but since we let people throw shit at Jarmo, and noone had a problem with that, we might as well ask some questions here...

Again, it is absolutely amazing that the little sentence of MSL about Jarmo is causing so much trouble and everyone here wants to lynch him for this. And I don`t even know what for? I don`t think MSL was throwing shit at Jarmo by mentioning him in a very unimportant role in this book he wrote...well he might not like him, or it is true that he didn`t know who he was...hell I am user at CD for a long time and did not know who was running it until recently. Actually it is not important
Fact is, that noone here denied so far that Jarmo got the leaks (don`t matter from whom and why; and don`t refer to garabaxl`s post cause that surely did not prove anything)...so then what is all this drama about? The ppl who left htgth because they didn`t agree with the rules will use pretty much anything to bitch at him. And on the other hand the mods here  don`t really behave any better as far as this issue is concerned.

MSL brought the leaks, you might not like his story, his looks, or his ego, or a sentence he wrote? Fine, but he did more to please the average fan than any letter by Del James or Howard Weitzman could ever do.

[Christos AG]

What's funny here is that noone cares who the other admins/mods who had these songs are.

Noone.

Everyone is just enjoying pointing fingers at Jarmo.

Such a genius didn't care to find out who else had these leaks?

He just asked them nicely and took "no" for an answer?

And he went all that way with mr. portugal or mr. north pole or whoever?

Hahaha, its seems that on this board the answer to everything is to either delete it, or ban them.

That was a personal insult. I deleted it so this wouldn't go on.

[DarkFairy]

I have no idea who the admins & mods are on GN'R boards, I don't even know who all the mods are here, coz it's kind of unimportant in the big picture.

Mods and admins aren't a big deal in the GN'R world, only on their own sites. That's my opinnion anyway. So it's not that unbelievable that someone doesn't know all the online people by name, hell I've been here, on and off, since 2002 and don't even know half of the staff.

[NicoRourke]

I don't like when people are bashing HTGTH and the way the site's crew do things.

That's why I want to expose this MSL for what he is : a fraud.

[ppbebe]

but he did more to please the average fan than any letter by Del James or Howard Weitzman could ever do.

He didn't make the demos. GN'R did.

[Tommie]

Did you ever think that a big reason people are enjoying pointing fingers at Jarmo so much is b/c he has managed to piss off and alienate a huge portion of the online community?  As far as what MSL is saying, noone can really confirm or deny anything he said except the people that he quotes as saying it to him.  Same thing goes for Jarmo.  Everyone needs to take both sides with a huge grain of salt and calm the hell down.

[Jimmy?]

I've really lost track of the conversation in this thread now. Can't everyone just kiss and make-up? 

[Lara]

I've really lost track of the conversation in this thread now. Can't everyone just kiss and make-up? 

Yeah, group hug everybodyyyyyyyyyy!   

[Christos AG]

is this forum still about gnr

Yes, but since we let people throw shit at Jarmo, and noone had a problem with that, we might as well ask some questions here...

Again, it is absolutely amazing that the little sentence of MSL about Jarmo is causing so much trouble and everyone here wants to lynch him for this. And I don`t even know what for? I don`t think MSL was throwing shit at Jarmo by mentioning in a very unimportant role in his book he wrote...well he might not like him, or it is true that he didn`t know who he was...hell I am user at CD for a long time and did not know who was running it until recently. Actually it is not important
Fact is, that noone here denied so far that Jarmo got the leaks (don`t matter from whom and why; and don`t refer to garabaxl`s post cause that surely did not prove anything)...so then what is all this drama about? The ppl who left htgth because they didn`t agree with the rules will use pretty much anything to bitch at him. And on the other hand the mods here  don`t really behave any better as far as this issue is concerned.

MSL brought the leaks, you might not like his story, his looks, or his ego, or a sentence he wrote? Fine, but he did more to please the average fan than any letter by Del James or Howard Weitzman could ever do.

Enjoy the drama my friend.

Blueheart said that I don't know the truth, but who cares?

The people that really matter know it...

Did you ever think that a big reason people are enjoying pointing fingers at Jarmo so much is b/c he has managed to piss off and alienate a huge portion of the online community? 

No. I'm not the genius here. That has been covered already.

I've really lost track of the conversation in this thread now. Can't everyone just kiss and make-up? 

I ain't kissing you... That's the 3rd time you're asking me to...

[Lara]

...group hug? 

[god of thunder]

but he did more to please the average fan than any letter by Del James or Howard Weitzman could ever do.

He didn't make the demos. GN'R did.

Yeah, but the difference is until they were "released" by MSL they did not really bring much joy to the average fan.

And seriously, even this is a dead horse; I don`t really think "soon" is the word, cause we were being told that once they have a release date they will tell. Well and from what Axl said (and why Merck was fired if anyone remembers) he might need a couple of months for proper promo once they have a release date --> Hence they won`t release it anytime "soon".

[Dont Try Me]

...group hug? 

not a bad idea 

[Christos AG]

but he did more to please the average fan than any letter by Del James or Howard Weitzman could ever do.

He didn't make the demos. GN'R did.

Yeah, but the difference is until they were "released" by MSL they did not really bring much joy to the average fan.

And seriously, even this is a dead horse; I don`t really think "soon" is the word, cause we were being told that once they have a release date they will tell. Well and from what Axl said (and why Merck was fired if anyone remembers) he might need a couple of months for proper promo once they have a release date --> Hence they won`t release it anytime "soon".

So, that justifies leaking the songs?

[LittleFly]

This thread is like a train wreck. ?If I get fired for lack of productivity, I'm blaming everyone who has posted in this thread ?

[Mysteron]

This thread is the biggest load of nonsense I have ever read.

An overload of over-active minds.

Ground the electricity people, please.

[D]

Even if Axl gave Jarmo an advanced Copy of Chinese Democracy who the hell cares if Jarmo kept for himself?

If Axl gave me something and told me to not let anyone under any circumstance hear it, I sure as fuck wouldnt. Call me a hoarder or whatever u want. Jarmo is a great Administrator and a damn nice guy from what I have gathered over these years, I Didn't know that running a GNR site also meant u had to be a pirate and leak things.

[WARose]

what the fuck is going on here?

if jarmo had the leaks before everyone else, then so be it. it`s not his job to give us new gnr material, it`s gnr`s job and if gnr isn`t ready to give us new material, we`ve got no right to steal it at all....

this whole matter is ridiculous from the beginning.... "my IQ is 155"   douchebag!!