the GNR underground discovered about the leaksers, and the hoarders...

[Axl Rose's Guns]

Update: according to Phrozen, this whole thing is bullshit, a joke of some kind. Im rreally confused right now.

[stolat]

Um, I think U2 was the first band to successfully stop people posting leaks all over the Internet........

[god of thunder]

Is the riaa responsible for protecting unreleased material anyways?? Thought that would be the job of the band and their lawyers until the album has been handed in for release....

[D]

WOW someone is fucked.

I think u can be sued up to like 250,000 dollars per song. I had a book about 5 years ago that explained music publishing and it talked about copyright infringement etc and the max u could be fined is 250k


WOW, Id be scared shitless if I were those guys.

[god of thunder]

obviously they are having some internal trouble!

From FrozenInferno at mygnr:

i dont know whats going on either. this latest guns reincarnated had more than 2 admins... today they tried to remove me as admin (im the one who first made the forum!!!) but i didnt let that happen. instead the other admins deleted topics that contained some leaks and then disabled the forum for a little bit. and now this. God i hope its a tasteless joke.........

[stolat]

WOW someone is fucked.

I think u can be sued up to like 250,000 dollars per song. I had a book about 5 years ago that explained music publishing and it talked about copyright infringement etc and the max u could be fined is 250k


WOW, Id be scared shitless if I were those guys.

Yep. You wanna play with the big boys........face the consequences!

[leatherebel]

There is one admin out there who beleives he belongs to an ELITE club and tries to make people think he is important and aspire they kiss his ass, fight his enemies.....with the hinted promise these people will become his groupies.....
This admin hinted awhile ago certain elite members of the GN'R community have had all these leaks for a while now.....He hinted he is among the elites.....Why? To gain attention and clicks on his site.
That admin is NOT Jarmo.
In fact, that admin is so jelous of Jarmo (as many of you are), that he'd use every possible chance to take shots at Jarmo....even if that means ganging up with hoarders and the leakers, posting blatant lies on his site, urging people to attack Jarmo..
You don's see the conspiracy??
The truth is, some people try everything possible to try to convince not only fans but (and more importantly) the band camp that Jarmo is a fraud and they should ditch him and instead use them - those "other" more superiour channels of communication as an intermediary to the fans.......
That other admin even calls himself the "Godfather".......fucking pathetic

And if you haven't noticed it was some of his minions who started this thread on this board and keep stirring the bowl of shit...

i'm replying here because i find it utterly tasteless of you to throw around such accusations. if you could at least back that up with anything... as far as i know Sean (BP) has gotten in an argument with Jarmo that was based on a misunderstanding to some degree and that's about it.

i tried to stay out of the whole thing as i have _absolutely_ nothing to do with leaking anything or supporting the sharing of leaks - now i'm being told to fuck off because supposedly i have kept the leaks to myself for a long time? you have not read a word from me in any of the threads related to the leaks and i have never been given ANY leaks in advance, nor i have asked anyone for them. even IF somebody had sent them to me (for whatever reasons)... you think it would have been ok to make it available to the public against all reason?

you can't possibly be THAT fucking stupid...

i don't see how Jarmo can be a target here either...

I never said BP has the leaks for a fact. I said he has mentioned on his site that a certain group of people have had them since January, very well implying he might be one of them (go dig out his post from somewhere in the Jungle). Regardless of whether he had something or not, he said that for his usual little attention and power games. He has himself claimed or implied on numerous occasions that he in the Elite of the gn'r online community, even calling himself "Online GN'R management specialist", and throughout last year he was constantly self stating on his board that he personally works with Merck on certain things, when in fact he was only bothering Merck with emails.....just as 50,000 other more minor fans. I can also quote what is on his buseness site (blueheartweb.com) and people can decide for themslelves. And yes, it is the same business site that has a huge banner on cd.com and that he and his lovely have in their signatures on every board:

Welcome to the 21st Century. In 2000, we entered into the business providing to top music acts in the entertainment industry. We built online promotional tools and a home base for management companies to interact with the fan base. BLUEHEART has acted as the 'Middleman' aiding with public relations, content management, web hosting, press releases, fan relations, ticket pre-sales, and much more.

Of course you can figure out who the top music act is, although unnamed because if it were BP would've had his ass sued by now for those blatant lies. But enough for his playing God games.


This is where things are starting to go deeper, a post by MSL about how he aquired the leaks debuts on his site, contains a fabricated Jarmo shot, and is quickly posted (in quotes) on this site by one of his mods, who starts commenting in a smartassy way about the last 2 paragraphs....another mod from that board quickly joins to stir. ?At the same time cd.com has been the only platform given to these criminals and haorders to play out their games and theories. None of the other major boards allowed it for MSL to post his offer to pay thousands for the leaks - or at least, they quickly removed it. And when some of his inital posts were removed from a mod at cd.com, the mighty admin was quick to restore them since they were working for him. Same thing happened to yet another HTGTH bashing thread the other day and many other things in the past.
And finally BP comes here and implies people are saying this against him to take the heat off of HTGTH....wow.

Look Sladdi, I have nothing against you except your occasional news things made out of almost nothing or for never crediting the board members that pointed you to any real news - browsong Japanese and Australian promoter sites for the latest news on the tour are the first and latest things that come to mind. Other than that I think you are a good man and have an awesome site. However, you have chosen a lier and an egomaniac for a partner and that will come to bite you later in life.

Hope I made myself clear.

[Therewasabetterirs]

no one is fucked! seriously I bet no one is fucked over this! just enjoy the music people

[stolat]

no one is fucked! seriously I bet no one is fucked over this! just enjoy the music people

It will be a bit hard to hear the music from a jail cell!

[AxlFink]

this is so gay. 

[WhatIsItMan]

this is so gay.?

LOL   

[Therewasabetterirs]

hahaha funny but no one is going to jail apart from the guy that gave the leaks away and there aint no proof of who did that so what can you do when theres so many liars that crawl through ya veins that seek out their victims and who is the wiser? watch out gotcha Oh my God, I can't deny this, I've been taught just to kill and fight this. see you in a few weeks!

[bigbri]

WOW someone is fucked.

I think u can be sued up to like 250,000 dollars per song. I had a book about 5 years ago that explained music publishing and it talked about copyright infringement etc and the max u could be fined is 250k


WOW, Id be scared shitless if I were those guys.

Yep. You wanna play with the big boys........face the consequences!

Nothing's gonna happen.

[MotherGooseLuvR]

I really wish Axl wouldn't waste his money paying attorneys to try and stop leaks.  They'll rake in Axl's much needed recording budget, and it won't make a god damned difference in the world.  You just can't stop leaks these days.

[Axlfreek]

theres an unmarked van with men in suites outside my house. should i be nervous ?

[stolat]

theres an unmarked van with men suites outside my house. should i be nervous ?

  but seriously, yes!

[stolat]

I really wish Axl wouldn't waste his money paying attorneys to try and stop leaks.? They'll rake in Axl's much needed recording budget, and it won't make a god damned difference in the world.? You just can't stop leaks these days.

but you can stick up for your rights! and make a stand!

[25]

obviously they are having some internal trouble!

From FrozenInferno at mygnr:

i dont know whats going on either. this latest guns reincarnated had more than 2 admins... today they tried to remove me as admin (im the one who first made the forum!!!) but i didnt let that happen. instead the other admins deleted topics that contained some leaks and then disabled the forum for a little bit. and now this. God i hope its a tasteless joke.........

Does Frozen own the domain? It seems more likely that the guy hosting the board on his site pulled it down for whatever reason.

[MotherGooseLuvR]

but you can stick up for your rights! and make a stand!

You certainly can, and Axl's doing it.

How well is that working out for him?

[MikeD]

OK, I've just read the 34 pages of this shit and now I feel a little dumber for it. Who gives a fuck about these demos. It's nothing no one here hasn't heard before. In fact, I'm willing to bet they suck ass compared to their live counterparts that we've all seen and heard because, presumably, the live stuff is what's going to be closest to the studio sound.