the GNR underground discovered about the leaksers, and the hoarders...

[ppbebe]

Have you heard of Mobocracy? that's what many net forums are.

I just don't see how Jarmo did anything wrong here. He was a big help with pre-sales, has confirmed/denied rumors because of a link to the band, and given us a site without a lot of the BS that goes on at other places.

If he  did have  the leaks, he couldn't exactly give them out to us,

because it might hinder the upcoming release and would be inexpedient for us after all, I'd imagine.

[ZRO]

You guys don't understand the problem here. The PROBLEM is Jarmo, who was bashing all of us for getting the songs or even talking about the songs, was behind our backs, who follows the "rules" GNR lays out for him in running the board, was in DIRECT CONTACT with the leaker, getting songs for himself.

Of course, he doesn't tell anyone from GNR management, whom this board has a "close relationship" with.

See the problem now? He's lying to us and he's lying to GNR.

We don't know that Jarmo did not inform management. And him hiding it from us was a smart move in a legal sense. As  much as we like our leaks, they are illegal and could have  had big ramifications to him and this site had he leaked them.

Dude, he obviously didn't inform management. He got the songs from the same guy the person who leaked them did. If he told management then this never would have happened.

Face it, the guy was out for himself and himself only.

[GunnerOne 84]

Because of Jarmo, I was able to be front and center on May 18th, 2006.

Him leaking songs/letting details about  said songs be openly discussed could mean the end of opportunities like that, for  me and everyone else.

I still got the songs, and I'm happy. It is not a life or death situation, and we are all fans of the same band or we wouldn't be here. We really should be able to get along

[Lisa]

You guys don't understand the problem here. The PROBLEM is Jarmo, who was bashing all of us for getting the songs or even talking about the songs, was behind our backs, who follows the "rules" GNR lays out for him in running the board, was in DIRECT CONTACT with the leaker, getting songs for himself.

Of course, he doesn't tell anyone from GNR management, whom this board has a "close relationship" with.

See the problem now? He's lying to us and he's lying to GNR.

We don't know that Jarmo did not inform management. And him hiding it from us was a smart move in a legal sense. As? much as we like our leaks, they are illegal and could have? had big ramifications to him and this site had he leaked them.

Dude, he obviously didn't inform management. He got the songs from the same guy the person who leaked them did. If he told management then this never would have happened.

Face it, the guy was out for himself and himself only.

and you know him? you know this to be fact? get over yourself

[Estranged28]

Two thoughts...
This was and is almost 100% unbelievable story.
Any chance that Del James or another selected representative will respond to what has happened via gunsnroses.com?

[ZRO]

You guys don't understand the problem here. The PROBLEM is Jarmo, who was bashing all of us for getting the songs or even talking about the songs, was behind our backs, who follows the "rules" GNR lays out for him in running the board, was in DIRECT CONTACT with the leaker, getting songs for himself.

Of course, he doesn't tell anyone from GNR management, whom this board has a "close relationship" with.

See the problem now? He's lying to us and he's lying to GNR.

We don't know that Jarmo did not inform management. And him hiding it from us was a smart move in a legal sense. As  much as we like our leaks, they are illegal and could have  had big ramifications to him and this site had he leaked them.

Dude, he obviously didn't inform management. He got the songs from the same guy the person who leaked them did. If he told management then this never would have happened.

Face it, the guy was out for himself and himself only.

and you know him? you know this to be fact? get over yourself

It's called common sense. 2+2 = 4.

It's not hard to figure it out.

[Lisa]

prove what you think you know...common sense has nothing to do with it pal, it comes down to FACTS. Show'em if ya got'em

[Christos AG]

Two thoughts...
This was and is almost 100% unbelievable story.
Any chance that Del James or another selected representative will respond to what has happened via gunsnroses.com?

They have responded through their lawyers.

[Evil Ash]

why doesn't jarmo post something here to clear things up i wonder...

[GunnerOne 84]

why doesn't jarmo post something here to clear things up i wonder...

As much as I would  like to hear his side of the story, people would just jump  all over him right now, he probably doesn't see the point of dealing with it while tempers are flaring. I can't speak for him though.

[SLCPUNK]

It's called common sense. 2+2 = 4.

It's not hard to figure it out.

Common sense? hahaha, this whole "story" is absolute bullshit, created by a dummy for dummies, and you are talking about common sense?

[Christos AG]

You guys don't understand the problem here. The PROBLEM is Jarmo, who was bashing all of us for getting the songs or even talking about the songs, was behind our backs, who follows the "rules" GNR lays out for him in running the board, was in DIRECT CONTACT with the leaker, getting songs for himself.

Of course, he doesn't tell anyone from GNR management, whom this board has a "close relationship" with.

See the problem now? He's lying to us and he's lying to GNR.

We don't know that Jarmo did not inform management. And him hiding it from us was a smart move in a legal sense. As  much as we like our leaks, they are illegal and could have  had big ramifications to him and this site had he leaked them.

Dude, he obviously didn't inform management. He got the songs from the same guy the person who leaked them did. If he told management then this never would have happened.

Face it, the guy was out for himself and himself only.

and you know him? you know this to be fact? get over yourself

It's called common sense. 2+2 = 4.

It's not hard to figure it out.

What you're doing here is bashing Jarmo based on what some person claimed to be the truth.

That's not common sense, it's attacking someone with no proof.

[anythinggoes]

why doesn't jarmo post something here to clear things up i wonder...

Whats the point everyone seems to have thier minds made up so all you would see is posts of Bullshit from everyone else

[SLCPUNK]

why doesn't jarmo post something here to clear things up i wonder...

Maybe he thinks it isn't worth responding to.......which it isn't.

[god of thunder]

TWAT release seems imminent!

[sic.]

Two thoughts...
This was and is almost 100% unbelievable story.
Any chance that Del James or another selected representative will respond to what has happened via gunsnroses.com?

They have responded through their lawyers.

Beta could post some, atleast she's viewing this thread right now.

[bigbri]

It's called common sense. 2+2 = 4.

It's not hard to figure it out.

Common sense? hahaha, this whole "story" is absolute bullshit, created by a dummy for dummies, and you are talking about common sense?

Amazing what people believe. You wouldn't know the truth if it was right in front of your face.

[Lisa]

why doesn't jarmo post something here to clear things up i wonder...

Maybe he thinks it isn't worth responding to.......which it isn't.

exactly, the man has a brain, which fortunately doesn't allow him to be sucked into this bullshit on HIS site.

[SLCPUNK]

If I was dishonest I could be making thousands upon thousands on this message board, it's a con mans dream come true.

[SLCPUNK]

It's called common sense. 2+2 = 4.

It's not hard to figure it out.

Common sense? hahaha, this whole "story" is absolute bullshit, created by a dummy for dummies, and you are talking about common sense?

Amazing what people believe. You wouldn't know the truth if it was right in front of your face.

LOL, man you wanna buy a bridge?