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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Slash wrote a lot of great guitar stuff since the UYIs. Anyone who thinks that Neither Can I, Beggars, Be The Ball (yes, Be The Ball), Back and Forth Again, Shine, Ain't Life Grand, Serial Killer, Obsession or YGNR isn't a masterpiece is tone deaf or his/her hatred doesn't let him realize the obvious. Slash made big in these songs. Very big. All would have been flawless GN'R songs with Axl singing. Slash's post GN'R work (well, Snakepit and not VR) musically far better than the UYI stuff in overall. (Cannot be said the same about lyrics and vocal melodies though.)
BTW I agree with those who say that a great singer (like Axl) can motivate him to do even better - but sometimes you can't top what he did. How could anything better than Neither Can I, Shine or Serial Killer? Well, it can't be better since his playing is perfect in the mentioned songs.
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Quote from: estebanf on May 03, 2007, 03:41:22 PM
That is right, but like Jarmo said, after Slash quitted GNR, he never had a masterpiece to produce a masterpiece solo. It's quite simple.
For example, I find ''Fall To Pieces'' solo fantastic. But that's all you can do with an average/mediocre song like that. Slash was a monster, a guitar god, when he had the chance to make solos for previously made masterpieces. That's when Slash is really at his best. I listen to November Rain played entirely in piano and I find it a masterpiece anyway. Of course, the incredible Slash's guitar parts brings the song to another (higher) level. But what can you do with a song like ''She Build Quick Machines''?
Slash is a beast, a great guitarist, but he's like the old Michael Jordan playing for the Washington Wizards. Slash needs a brilliant songwriter to be at his best. And Im not talking specifically about Axl as THAT brilliant songwriter. For example, Slash's solo in Michael Jackson's ''Give In To Me'' is probably on of the best of his career, and one of the most beautiful solos I've ever heard. That's because, again, Slash worked on a masterpiece made by a genius.
That's basically why I think that Slash is losing his time next to Scott Weiland.
Normally I don't agree with your posts but I do agree with this one except for the NR part but hey that's a matter of opinion, Good post mate?
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Quote from: Falcon on May 03, 2007, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on May 03, 2007, 06:37:10 AM
you are an absolute idiot.
Chill with the name calling.
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And i dont care if I get karma for it, it needs to be said.
Your wish is...
and thats fine, I expected it. But he is no worse for mocking me for supporting the guys who are actually in the band now. And for bringing Axl/GnR/Robin Finck into the VR section. Something I never mentioned, this was supposed to be about Slash.
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Quote from: metallex78 on May 01, 2007, 11:05:20 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on May 01, 2007, 09:59:19 PM
Slash is good, but there are much better guitarists out there.? ?
Funny you say that, because the reason I like Slash is and has never been because of how good he supposedly is when put up against other guitarists.
But when it comes to style, tone and technique and the sound he creates, not many can touch him.
He manages to sound sloppy and tight at the same time if that makes any sense. A pure rock n' roll sound.
And Slash has a sound and style that is unmistakably him.
Can't say that about too many other guitar players.
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Quote from: monkeychow on May 01, 2007, 11:16:28 PM
100% agree with the poster above.
Theres tons of guys out there who can play faster than slash or more technically than slash....but slash has unique tone, can get such an emotive blues vibe, has a distinctive attack to his playing, and as you said that rock slopyness yhat really works for him so damn well.....
Anyway...is good to see Slash "is back", mind you I dont think he really went anywhere I think its just that he'd been playing a style of music recently that doesn't show off his skills quite as much. When i saw VR a few times in concert I was struck by how much more slash kickass playing there seemed to be live than on the record...still not as much as in GNR...but I think part of the problem is that contraband is mixed in too much of a grungy way.
Anyway...i'm hopeful from what we've seen that libertad will feature some classic slash playing in the style of AFD, UYI and 5 O'clock somewhere....
I'd agree the songs off contraband sounded much better live than on cd....saw them 3x's Electric factory, Spectrum, and Starland NYE.
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on May 02, 2007, 03:13:11 PM
But, Live, so far, this is the best he has sounded to me in the consistency dept. He is such a bad ass. I love this tone so far as well. The new solos sound a little more difficult as well and his new Set Me Free solo is better. He sounds more like the 1993 UYI Slash.
All of the solos in the video you posted are from one show, are they not?
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Slash is without question my favorite musician ever. Note that I said Favorite and not best ever. It's not just knowing what to play, it's knowing how and why it needs to be played. That being said if GnR never existed I don't think anyone would rank him all that high based off Contraband. I like VR alot (altho pretty disappointed by all the libertad stuff I have heard so far) but it seems like an awkward fit to me. And even as a big STP fan growing up I must say I have always thought the greatest frontmen ever know that there needs to be a time and place for the guitar and Scott doesn't. Bon Scott let Angus go nuts for the 2nd half of "whole lotta rosie", (By the way whoever said Angus doesn't have any memorable solos should probably do a little research and check that one out) Robert Plant let Jimmy Page shine for countless songs and so forth. Axl Knew that pretty well too. I think he may have been the biggest fan of Slash's playing back in the day. The songs Axl wrote by himself all left big spaces for Slash to do his thing.
And on the original topic I saw VR twice and really loved it the first time when him and Dave were trading solos during "Set me Free". Best Slash Solos in VR: No More No More, Slither, Money.
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Axl can create great songs without Slash, Some of the new ones are fantastic but every new song outside of Better lacks something that Im not sure even the most die hard Axl fan can deny.
I listen to some of the new tracks and just think to myself what they would sound like with Slash.
TWAT is ok, personally it isnt a top 20 GNR song, the solo is good but nowhere near the level of GNR classics same with Catcher,The Blues, Madagascar.
IRS is decent but still none of these songs outside of "Better" really have a riff to speak of which concerns me a little.
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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Quote from: Oddy on May 03, 2007, 01:22:42 PM
he probably has just as many memorable solos as slash to me.
"do you think of Angus Young when you think of great guitar solos?"
yes........yes i do. and many people would agree. MAAAAANY people.
Perphaps, music is subjective after all. Maybe the example was bad but Angus doesn't do anything for me.
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Quote from: D on May 03, 2007, 10:48:18 PM
Axl can create great songs without Slash, Some of the new ones are fantastic but every new song outside of Better lacks something that Im not sure even the most die hard Axl fan can deny.
I listen to some of the new tracks and just think to myself what they would sound like with Slash.
TWAT is ok, personally it isnt a top 20 GNR song, the solo is good but nowhere near the level of GNR classics same with Catcher,The Blues, Madagascar.
IRS is decent but still none of these songs outside of "Better" really have a riff to speak of which concerns me a little.
what the fuck? you are going on and on about Axl and GnR
in the vr section
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So u can have an opinion and we are all suppose to respect that but I can't have one?
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Re: Slash solo's while in VR live in concert recently
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It'd better if we wouldn't talk about Axl's new songs here. There are plenty of topics for that.
BTW I appreciate Wheres Izzy's post, it was a great one!
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