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« on: April 26, 2007, 10:04:18 AM »

I know there are coutless threads about Tommy's injury and the cancellations and why GN'R can replace Brain but not Tommy...yadda, yadda, yadda....

But here's a thought (albeit, speculation, at best). Perhaps the reason why GN'R decided NOT to have a temporary replacement for Tommy was because they are planning on playing brand new material during the next few legs. Many of you have brought up the point that Pittman could have easily filled in for Tommy for a few shows. That seems to be a reasonable 'fix'...IF, that is, they plan on playing the same old setlist. Althought most of us like the added effects Pittman contributes to the 'old songs', they certainly can be played without them if Pittman was on bass instead.

However, IF the band is planning to play brand new material that relied heavily on Pittman manning the synth, he would not have been able to play bass...not to mention the fact that it would be extremely unfair to have Tommy work so hard on this material for countless years only to have the premier of new material spoiled by a stupid injury.


I know...it's a very desperate and passing thought...but anyone else think it could possibly hold water?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 10:07:53 AM »

Its definatly possible that they could play "new" material at the shows but i wouldn't count on it. At least not until the album is dropped.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 10:08:07 AM »

i actually think you may have a very good point here.. ?ok

Who knows...
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 10:43:27 AM »

I wouldn't expect too much.

It's either going to be songs we already know (TWAT, IRS, etc) or - if they feel that adventurous - one new song.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2007, 10:49:32 AM »

I want them to play a new song soon.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2007, 10:50:31 AM »

Yeah, let's just go ahead and play the whole thing live before it is ever released. Not that it would make the album release after all this time anti-climatic or anything  crying
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2007, 11:01:01 AM »

no they wouldn't,and you all know that
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2007, 11:08:40 AM »

Yeah, let's just go ahead and play the whole thing live before it is ever released. Not that it would make the album release after all this time anti-climatic or anything? crying

I'm not suggesting the entire album...but maybe the first single...something new that we haven't heard. Like I said, it would be a real shame if Tommy missed out on that opportunity after all these years.


Just a thought. Nothing more.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2007, 11:12:47 AM »

It would be cool if this was the reason, but I doubt it is.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2007, 11:16:30 AM »

Bumblefoot said GNR would continue to play a similar setlist until CD is released. But who the funk knows?
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2007, 11:26:47 AM »

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I'm not suggesting the entire album...but maybe the first single...something new that we haven't heard. Like I said, it would be a real shame if Tommy missed out on that opportunity after all these years.

I'm just saying that if you assume the average album is 12-14 songs, we have most likely already heard 6 that will make the final cut (those being the ones played live at most every show plus TWAT). If you throw in another new song or 2 on the tour, then we are looking at having heard 8 out of 12 or 14 songs off the album. There will be very little suspense left for the album if it is ever released, because having heard 2/3's of it live is like opening 2/3 of your christmas presents before christmas and rewrapping them to reopen them again that morning. It just takes a little of the fun out of the experience. It is bad enough we have heard as much as we have.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2007, 11:29:56 AM »

I want to see Tommy bouncing on stage especially when they play better.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2007, 11:42:45 AM »

Maybe Bach coulld fill in for Tommy and play bass on " Sorry "

Since he is apparently the only one on planet Earth or Planet Axl to have heard it
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2007, 12:35:48 PM »

Id look for maybe one new song to make its way into the setlist.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2007, 12:38:34 PM »

Chances are they are using the time to finishing mixing the album.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2007, 12:41:30 PM »

Chances are they are using the time to finishing mixing the album.

Even if that wasn't the original plan, we should hope it is now since Gn'R aren't expected to take the stage for a good month.
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2007, 01:07:00 PM »

Well, could be the reason but they could have played the old setlist in Japan and S.A...
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2007, 02:02:27 PM »

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I'm not suggesting the entire album...but maybe the first single...something new that we haven't heard. Like I said, it would be a real shame if Tommy missed out on that opportunity after all these years.

I'm just saying that if you assume the average album is 12-14 songs, we have most likely already heard 6 that will make the final cut (those being the ones played live at most every show plus TWAT). If you throw in another new song or 2 on the tour, then we are looking at having heard 8 out of 12 or 14 songs off the album. There will be very little suspense left for the album if it is ever released, because having heard 2/3's of it live is like opening 2/3 of your christmas presents before christmas and rewrapping them to reopen them again that morning. It just takes a little of the fun out of the experience. It is bad enough we have heard as much as we have.






Why is it so bad that we have heard so much of CD.....Why does everything have to be such a fucking suprise. Guns played almost all of UYI on tour 5 months before it came out. Live and studio are very different. It would not make the album less enjoyable. Was hearing the leak of Madagascar not as good because you have heard it played live? It would be exciting for all of the fans attending the show and much more exciting for the new band to play more of their new songs. If you suddenly heard prostitute live all it would do is wet your appetite for the studio cut.

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2007, 02:17:13 PM »

Maybe is a excuse for finish the album or maybe is what is looks.
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2007, 02:40:26 PM »


 Was hearing the leak of Madagascar not as good because you have heard it played live?



Well, actually, yes.
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