South African shows cancelled

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Maybe using Pittman is OK for one show, but for a tour, can they really replace Tommy?

He does have a big role in the band and maybe Axl does not want to go on without him. Tommy has been very loyal to Axl and maybe Axl is being very loyal to Tommy by not getting someone in temporarily.

Maybe this whole story is bullshit and they will be in SA.

[rv62900]

Maybe Stinsons hand really  is hurt, something is wrong with his homepage?

no bio, tourdates...etc.

love it when rumours go wild!!

[russtcb]

I fear I may have met my limit at this point.

[Oh My Choking Soul]

IF THIS IS TRUE I AM THRU WITH THIS BAND...

...THEY ARE A FUCKING JOKE.

welcome back at the next update
man, every time...



again, where does it say the world tour is cancelled?

Whatever, you fucking sheep.

[Tommie]

I say lets all bomb their myspace page with comments demanding to know what the fucks going on.

[Verasa]

Maybe Stinson really is hurt, something is wrong with his homepage?

no bio, tourdates...etc.

he's either hurt or *MAJOR SPECULATION ALERT* quit...

[xChaosx]

Has this been officially confirmed yet?

I don't really wanna say anything until it is.

BUT...

Does anyone else hear a gigantic crashing sound?

-Eris

[Naupis]

Does anyone else hear a gigantic crashing sound?

No. We have all proclaimed this thing dead after every one of these little incidents, and then we all get over it and move on to whatever the next bit of hope we have is. Anyone who says they are "done" with the band because of this are lying as they will be back whenever it looks like something new might be on the horizon.

[Verasa]

Has this been officially confirmed yet?

I don't really wanna say anything until it is.

BUT...

Does anyone else hear a gigantic crashing sound?

yeah i heard that same sound dec 6th 2002

[Death Cube K]

Can't they just find a replacement? My god...its not like its Axl whos injured. A couple of million people knows the bass lines to the GNR songs....its not that hard to find someone to do the shows.

[Death Cube K]

Most casual listeners doesnt give a shit whos playing bass. They wanna see Axl. For crying out loud, just hook up with a guy who can do the fucking songs and go on tour.

[xChaosx]

I know I'm never gonna give up on Guns n' Roses. The music is what matters and I'll wait as long as I need to hear it. Until then, I have a life and my CD collection to get me through.

I just mean that if it IS true it will NOT bode well for the band, especially you-know-who's reputation.

When I read that I just imagined a collective "UGH!!!!!" from the members of this board and fans everywhere...

BUT, has there been official word yet, or just that one source possibly getting us all foaming at the mouth for no real reason?

-Eris

[gokken]

BUT, has there been official word yet, or just that one source possibly getting us all foaming at the mouth for no real reason?

-Eris

These kind of rumours are in 99% of the cases true. Lets hops that the "All tour postponed" is in the rest of the 1%.

[Naupis]

I just mean that if it IS true it will NOT bode well for the band, especially you-know-who's reputation.

The beauty of the situation is that the band and you-know-who's reputation is already shot, so it is not like this is going to be any huge deal in the grand scheme of things. When you have had the problems they have one more set of cancellations is par for the course, not some monumental disaster that is going to kill the band. They will make a press release, blame something or someone for having to cancel the dates, make some vague reference to progress on the album and the board will be hyped up again by noon. That is the cycle around here and has been since Axl reappeared.

[williambailey]

Ok so I have bought tickets to their show in Perth and also tickets for another show over on the east coast of Australia. ?I have booked and paid for airfares for my girlfriend and I after buying the tickets. ?I also just paid for accomodation today.

If this is true then once again it just shows a complete lack of respect for fans! ?This surely must have been something brewing for a while, at least from when they cancelled the Japanese dates. ?Right then and there they should have made a decision about the rest of the tour. It seems they did - they would proceed with it. ?Well based on that decision that's what they should fucking do. ?I mean for fuck sake pay some money and hire a replacement, hell that's pretty much what GN'R has done since 1995 anyhow so why cease that "clever" formuale now??

I really hope this rumour isn't true and I would love to have to eat my words, but if it is.............. ahhhh fucken hell how much crap am I supposed to take. This sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls!!!

[John Galt]

As usual lots of speculation and assuming, very little facts.

Facts are Japan postponed, and now 2 SA dates postponed according to the promoter and SA media.

Reason given for Japan postponement, Stinson injured hand, very plausible. ?Reason given for SA, we've not heard officially but it would seem reasonable the hand injury is not improving quickly enough. ?That is all the fact known at present.

Stinson in or out of band (he didn't appear at Versace gig) - if he had left why book show dates without a replacement, ?and then cancel nearer the time. ?Always going to be risky and likely to generate bad press. ?Therefore I find this unlikely

As yet no confirmation on Aus, NZ or Mex dates (why would the SA promoter know anything about those?)

[charlesfosterkane]

strange... i understand tommy stinson is a big part of the band and he's the most recognizable name in the group other than axl but it isn't like this band hasn't temporarily replaced members on leave before (brain). they could get a guy up to speed pretty fast, right? i'm not a musician but i'm pretty sure you could hire a guy, learn him up on 20 songs, and the show would go on well enough. they had enough time between the fall and this business to prepare a contigency.

[alternativemonkey]

What a joke! Bumblefoot was only in the band 3 weeks before Hammersmith. Certainly, they could find a substitute for Tommy if they wanted.

I quit being a GNR fan today. ?

So long . . . to all the suckers that stick around. If GNR isn't stealing your money, they are stealing your time.

[elmir]

(why would the SA promoter know anything about those?)

because they were notified by gnr management of the cancellation, and were probably told that the rest is going down the same road as well.

and because its Coca Cola....and they don't fuck around....you screw them around like this...they want to know!

[Death Cube K]

It's bass lines everyone in the world of rock knows. Theyre not even that hard to learn. Simple shit. But they choose to take the hard way out and cancell the fucking stuff? Whats the point? Isnt it better to do the shows, take off a new songs but still do them? Irrational.