South African shows cancelled

[Nightfall]

They can get a replacement for SA and the other shows this far in advance for Tommy. I understand Japan as he plays a key role in rehearsals etc. but not these days.

Why should they get a replacement? Canceling the shows looks awful, but that's their prerogative. If they don't feel comfortable going out there with a temp player, for whatever reason, that (and the fall-out) is their problem.

Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

They've done it in 2001/2002/2003 and 2004...so why not now?

[25]

Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

The show tickets would have to be refunded, anything else is outside of their control. It's a nightmare to be in the fan's position but the band aren't in that position. And they'll likely say "we wouldn't want to let the fans down by taking their money and putting on a shitty show." It's an irreconcilable difference of opinion, I think.

[Megaguns]

They can get a replacement for SA and the other shows this far in advance for Tommy. I understand Japan as he plays a key role in rehearsals etc. but not these days.

Why should they get a replacement? Canceling the shows looks awful, but that's their prerogative. If they don't feel comfortable going out there with a temp player, for whatever reason, that (and the fall-out) is their problem.

I 100% agree, This band have always been notorious for cancelling more gigs than the average band,

Hey, they replaced brain, and tommy once before, bucket, adler at one point. What the fuck is so different now?


Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

[Jim Bob]

I just hope we get an update on the website with some positive news, like an update on the mixing process or anything. This isn't good.

positive news would be great right about now.  lets hope.

[badapple81]

They can get a replacement for SA and the other shows this far in advance for Tommy. I understand Japan as he plays a key role in rehearsals etc. but not these days.

Why should they get a replacement? Canceling the shows looks awful, but that's their prerogative. If they don't feel comfortable going out there with a temp player, for whatever reason, that (and the fall-out) is their problem.

Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

They've done it in 2001/2002/2003 and 2004...so why not now?

I guess as a fan that got excited about getting a ticket, got my tix.. saw ppl get plane tix already etc.. its the first time I've really felt the let down.

[25]

I just hope we get an update on the website with some positive news, like an update on the mixing process or anything. This isn't good.

Yeah, they need to spin this with a "the tour is being rescheduled but. . . [album update]" and follow it up in a month or two with "Tommy's hand is healed and the rescheduled dates are [whatever] and, added bonus, [album release date]." And then follow through. Best case scenario.

[badapple81]

Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

The show tickets would have to be refunded, anything else is outside of their control. It's a nightmare to be in the fan's position but the band aren't in that position. And they'll likely say "we wouldn't want to let the fans down by taking their money and putting on a shitty show." It's an irreconcilable difference of opinion, I think.

Yeah and we know that's bollocks. They can get a replacement and put on the same show with this much notice.

[Nightfall]

Why should they get a replacement? Cos fans of theirs have bought tickets, gotten excited about it, maybe bought plane tix non refundable or hotels.. thats why! Dont let the fans down.

They've done it in 2001/2002/2003 and 2004...so why not now?

I guess as a fan that got excited about getting a ticket, got my tix.. saw ppl get plane tix already etc.. its the first time I've really felt the let down.

I've felt it in all of those years i've mentioned (flying to the US/Portugal etc)...trust me..you'll get over it.

[25]

Hey, they replaced brain, and tommy once before, bucket, adler at one point. What the fuck is so different now?

They didn't replace Tommy for a full show in front of paying fans, Bucket left the band, Brain had a baby, Adler was a clownshoe. And those are just the superficial differences.

[25]

Yeah and we know that's bollocks. They can get a replacement and put on the same show with this much notice.

They don't seem to share your opinion.

[Megaguns]

Hey, they replaced brain, and tommy once before, bucket, adler at one point. What the fuck is so different now?

They didn't replace Tommy for a full show in front of paying fans, Bucket left the band, Brain had a baby, Adler was a clownshoe. And those are just the superficial differences.

Im sorry Mr encyclopedia GNR, you know what i meant, no need to rip out the big big guns of knowledge. 

[badapple81]

It's a shame every musician I speak to, even those in shitty pub bands say you can replace a bass player with enough notice with a session player for a show. And yet GN'R with all their resources and access to fine musicians can't?

[Timothy]

It's a shame every musician I speak to, even those in shitty pub bands say you can replace a bass player with enough notice with a session player for a show. And yet GN'R with all their resources and access to fine musicians can't?

always heard that myself...

[Demon Wolf]

You know, there is a bone in the wrist, that if it breaks... it takes at least eight months to heal. Hopefully, Tommy did not break it.

[badapple81]

I wish Tommy all the best, but they can still do these shows.

[25]

It's a shame every musician I speak to, even those in shitty pub bands say you can replace a bass player with enough notice with a session player for a show. And yet GN'R with all their resources and access to fine musicians can't?

Might their attention to detail be the reason that they're just shitty pub bands? 

Seriously, you can rail against it all you want but it doesn't change anything. We don't even have confirmation that this story is true, nevermind the reasoning behind the choices they've apparently made.

[DazRose85]

Tommy isn't just "the bass player" who you can replace at a moments notice - he is also the musical director of the band, meaning he is the one who's basically in-charge of rehearsals and telling the band what to do (when Axl is not there). You cannot simply replace this key position.

[badapple81]

http://entertainment.iafrica.com/news/791427.htm

Also here.

[badapple81]

I agree, for the Japanese dates. But the Australian dates in fucking June? They can replace him with all their resources.

[Beefy]

During the illusions tours how long did Izzy come back to fill in for Gilby when he hurt his wrist?