VELVET REVOLVER To Release 'Libertad' July 3rd

[Genesis]

No way. This band is all about the music. I don't know how you can imply it's got to do with marketing.   

Jarmo always cracks me up. Such a believer. 

Anyway, while I'd rather see it sooner, at least the date has been fixed. It would have leaked out by then I suppose.

[jarmo]

I was expecting to see Booker to question why they'd push back the release since the album is ready for release.

Im not sure why this is.

You just seem like the kind of guy who questions a lot of things.

And sometimes it has songs that top rock radio charts for 9-plus weeks and sells over 2.5 million records.  Youll  criticize either way, however.

True. I don't have to like something just because it has former GN'R members playing on it.

It could sell 100 million records, I'd still think the lyrics are boring and most of the songs rushed/uninspired.





/jarmo

[Genesis]

It could sell 100 million records, I'd still think the lyrics are boring and most of the songs rushed/uninspired.

Yes we know. Thank you. You've told us a hundred times already. Why don't you reserve your criticism till CD comes out? Then we'll have something to talk about. Till then we fans will listen whatever "boring, rushed and uninspired" songs VR provide us.

[jarmo]

It could sell 100 million records, I'd still think the lyrics are boring and most of the songs rushed/uninspired.

Yes we know. Thank you. You've told us a hundred times already. Why don't you reserve your criticism till CD comes out? Then we'll have something to talk about. Till then we fans will listen whatever "boring, rushed and uninspired" songs VR provide us.

What's the problem?

I answered Booker's claim.


As you might've noticed, I didn't say a word about the new songs.

I didn't comment on the low quality live versions unlike some here. I'll wait until the album is out before judging the tracks.



I do have doubts that they can create a new classic rock album. No matter what Scott says.





/jarmo

[Genesis]

I didn't comment on the low quality live versions unlike some here. I'll wait until the album is out before judging the tracks.

I do have doubts that they can create a new classic rock album. No matter what Scott says.

Neither did I. I'll wait for the album as well and fuck what Scott says.

[GnR-NOW]

I'm glad the album was pushed back  .  I think it's a good move for VR  .  Now more people are going to want it  , I have no idea how any other band can survive without Slash, no one will ever be better then him.  Why is he doing all those interviews about re-joining another band, if this album is going to rock he should want to stay in this band right ?

[Tommie]

I'm glad the album was pushed back  .  I think it's a good move for VR  .  Now more people are going to want it  , I have no idea how any other band can survive without Slash, no one will ever be better then him.  Why is he doing all those interviews about re-joining another band, if this album is going to rock he should want to stay in this band right ?

He's been taken out of context a few times in some of the articles I've read.  If ya watch the actual interview he did about the GnR reunion, you'll see that alot of the articles that have been written have been giving the two sentences about the reunion a life of its own.

[darkmonth]

Not particularly.  Of course Id like to see it earlier, but Julys not bad. 

I thought you were anxious to hear it since you're such a huge fan and would feel a bit let down that they can't get it out sooner.

Are you implying a GNR comparison?

Nothing to do with any other band.

I wonder if the July 3rd date is for marketing purposes. Since July 4th is Independence Day and the album is called Libertad.

No way. This band is all about the music. I don't know how you can imply it's got to do with marketing.   

Once again RCA is screwing with what singles should be released.

Instead of saying anything about the (dangerous) rock band doing what RCA tells them to, I'll just say... Maybe they don't have any singles on the album... It happens.

Sometimes when the whole album is filled with songs that don't stick out, it's hard to pick one to be the first single.





/jarmo

Either you're taking the piss out of the members here in a comedic fasion, or you're being a fucking biased and pretty bad administrator.  You're basically, in the 'tone' of the words you write above, picking fights.  Sorry man, but that's not very rule obiding.  Play nice Jarmo!

[SADIS]

I do have doubts that they can create a new classic rock album. No matter what Scott says.

/jarmo

I'm pretty sure they won't. No band has released a classic rock album in the last decade and nobody will in the near future. Neither VR or GnR. Rock is as dead as can be. It has been done to the fullest and now there's nothing left.

[jarmo]

Either you're taking the piss out of the members here in a comedic fasion, or you're being a fucking biased and pretty bad administrator.  You're basically, in the 'tone' of the words you write above, picking fights.  Sorry man, but that's not very rule obiding.  Play nice Jarmo!

Sure I'm a bad administrator just because I was surprised to see Booker just agree with the release date.

I'm used to see him questioning a lot of things and now he didn't.


Sure, I'm biased. I have an opinion on Velvet Revolver. It's based on the fact that I grew up listening to the music a few of the members in that band created in their former band. Now they got a singer who seems to think everything he does is magical and classic while talking a lot of bullshit.

And you're not biased?



/jarmo

[Grouse]

Just to drag this thread back on topic

I was just re-thinking this release date and it occured to me that this is the worst date imaginable for releasing an album.

I mean alot of schools will be out for the summer vacation so promotion through word of mouth will almost be zero and a shitload of people would rather spend their money going on vacation than on buying the album and to make things even worse the day after the release is the 4th of July so alot of people will also be busy doing other things...

This release date has written disaster all over it....

[Booker Floyd]

Sure I'm a bad administrator just because I was surprised to see Booker just agree with the release date.

I'm used to see him questioning a lot of things and now he didn't.

First, let me clarify that I meant July 3rd was appropriate because of the albums "liberty" theme. 

Second, what is there to question?  The album is finished, turned in and ready for release.  I dont know why you think I would make an issue out of it being released the first Tuesday of July instead of the last Tuesday of June.  So again, what is there to question?

I think youre misremembering some of my past posts. 

[darkmonth]

Either you're taking the piss out of the members here in a comedic fasion, or you're being a fucking biased and pretty bad administrator.  You're basically, in the 'tone' of the words you write above, picking fights.  Sorry man, but that's not very rule obiding.  Play nice Jarmo!

Sure I'm a bad administrator just because I was surprised to see Booker just agree with the release date.

I'm used to see him questioning a lot of things and now he didn't.


Sure, I'm biased. I have an opinion on Velvet Revolver. It's based on the fact that I grew up listening to the music a few of the members in that band created in their former band. Now they got a singer who seems to think everything he does is magical and classic while talking a lot of bullshit.

And you're not biased?



/jarmo

Go and find somewhere that I was blatantly, blindly following someone and slagging someone off for no reason.  Go check my posts.  You'll find me praise AND slag off certain people ... if they deserve it for past/current actions, fine ... I don't suck anyone's cock like a lot of the fucking idiots here.  And that goes for VR AND GNR obsessives.

I like both bands.  Contraband was a straight ahead, cool album, that I still put on a lot.  I listen to the shitty studio versions of Axl's new songs too.  They're good also.  Not outstanding.  By any means.  Not at all.  But they're good.

So no... I'm not biased.  I might slag off VR a hell of a lot less than I do GnR... but that's deserved.  GnR has pulled more shit than VR... simple fact.  If you think I'm biased, take a look at my stats ... I've seen VR once.  New GnR twice.  Does that mean I think GnR is better?  No... not at all.  Does the fact I just said I don't think GnR is better mean I think VR is better?  No.  I think both bands have a lot of potential going for them.  NEITHER band has met it's potential.

Anyone who thinks these two bands have written anywhere near what they're capable of is wrong.  Contraband and newGnR stuff is just as good as each other in diff ways.

So there...

Re: the topic...

July 3rd is fine with me !!!

[redx]

Jonathan Cohen of Billboard.com reports: After scrapping the original May 29 release date, VELVET REVOLVER has settled on July 3 to unveil its second RCA album, "Libertad" (artwork). Impacting in mid-May, the first single from the set will be "She Builds Quick Machines", one of the four new tracks the group has been playing of late during shows in South America.

"RCA did a bunch of research on what the first single should be," bassist Duff McKagan told Billboard.com last night (April 16) before a gig in Buenos Aires. "I'm pretty anti that stuff. The band had something they wanted to go with, but RCA just kept coming with it. So we decided, it's fine. It's a great f*ckin' rock song. It has a kick-ass guitar riff, a great chorus, a really big bridge and a great Slash solo."

McKagan is also high on "Last Fight", which he calls "a mid-tempo, really beautiful song; probably something you wouldn't expect from us," as well as "She Mine", described as "a fun pop ditty."

Read more at Billboard.com.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003572634

 

[jarmo]

Sure I'm a bad administrator just because I was surprised to see Booker just agree with the release date.

I'm used to see him questioning a lot of things and now he didn't.

First, let me clarify that I meant July 3rd was appropriate because of the albums "liberty" theme. 

Second, what is there to question?  The album is finished, turned in and ready for release.  I dont know why you think I would make an issue out of it being released the first Tuesday of July instead of the last Tuesday of June.  So again, what is there to question?

I think youre misremembering some of my past posts. 

I guess I was expecting you to question why they would have to push it back until July instead of getting it out to their fans as soon as possible.

And also them touring without an album out....





/jarmo

[Booker Floyd]

I guess I was expecting you to question why they would have to push it back until July instead of getting it out to their fans as soon as possible.

And also them touring without an album out....

Again, Im not sure where these expectations came from. 

The album was just finished and its coming out in two-and-a-half months.  Theres nothing really unusual about that and theres not much to question.  It was handed over to the record company and they decided that July 3rd was the best date to release it. 

[Tommie]

As much as I love to see you two fight.  I gotta say that Jarmo, I also thought that some parts of what you posted in this thread sounded kinda mean spirited.  But alas, this is the internet, and certain things dont come across right (ie sarcasm, ect) on here.  But also, I agree with Jarmo about Scott thinking he's gods gift to Rock n Roll.  It gets old very quickly.  Its one thing to be sure of yourself, but Scott takes it to a whole other level. 

I want to point out that I love old GnR, I love "new" GnR, and I love VR -yes it is possible to love all three.

[redx]

As much as I love to see you two fight.  I gotta say that Jarmo, I also thought that some parts of what you posted in this thread sounded kinda mean spirited.  But alas, this is the internet, and certain things dont come across right (ie sarcasm, ect) on here.  But also, I agree with Jarmo about Scott thinking he's gods gift to Rock n Roll.  It gets old very quickly.  Its one thing to be sure of yourself, but Scott takes it to a whole other level. 

I want to point out that I love old GnR, I love "new" GnR, and I love VR -yes it is possible to love all three.

I think Jarmo is possibly anti VR 

The fact that VR is listed on HTDGTH under Wasn't Yesterday Great makes VR sound like they were yesterday, where as they are in the 'now' out there, performing live, and releasing records.

[jarmo]

I think Jarmo is possibly anti VR 

I think you're anti-GN'R.

The fact that VR is listed on HTDGTH under Wasn't Yesterday Great makes VR sound like they were yesterday, where as they are in the 'now' out there, performing live, and releasing records.

Exactly!

Nothing to do with the fact that it refers to the past when the former members were actual members of GN'R.

 



/jarmo

[Skeletor]

"RCA did a bunch of research on what the first single should be," bassist Duff McKagan told Billboard.com last night (April 16) before a gig in Buenos Aires. "I'm pretty anti that stuff. The band had something they wanted to go with, but RCA just kept coming with it. So we decided, it's fine.

Doing what RCA tells them? That sounds... dangerous!



j/k