Madagascar

[MeanBone]

as an artist i wouldn't it to another artist, and i got extremely pissed off when gnrsucks went for the supposed deal that turned into  "the darknemous incident"

As an "artist" myself I couldn't give a ratts ass if people heard my music before it was finished as long as they knew it was just a demo

With respect, you aren't one of the very few "artists" who stand a chance of turning a profit from their recordings, nor demanding hundreds of thousands of dollars per show. If there were literally millions of dollars at stake you'd want to present the best possible recordings and shows, wouldn't you?

nicely said

[Naltav]

as an artist i wouldn't it to another artist, and i got extremely pissed off when gnrsucks went for the supposed deal that turned into? "the darknemous incident"

As an "artist" myself I couldn't give a ratts ass if people heard my music before it was finished as long as they knew it was just a demo

With respect, you aren't one of the very few "artists" who stand a chance of turning a profit from their recordings, nor demanding hundreds of thousands of dollars per show. If there were literally millions of dollars at stake you'd want to present the best possible recordings and shows, wouldn't you?

Well put! 

[gunns1]

i say, fck demos, there going to spoil it heaps, because the sound quality is heaps good,
we will keep listening to it, and by the time the album comes around,

well just be listening to 4 -5 songs on repeat, and be sick of the others,

ive already ruined it with better, (07 leak) even though I think the middle bridge in that is waaaaay to soft,

Dont download anymore leaks as tempting as it is.

[surforia]

^^^
Easier said than done... when your favorite band hasn't put out new material in a long ass time, a new leak is like throwing a T-bone in front of a starving man.  We, collectively, are starving fans. 

[ben9785]

Okay, of course hearing demos suck because they are works in progress, unfinished pieces of music that aren't meant to be heard, yes, it might spoil the music when the final version comes out, but then there is the argument of throwing a t-bone in front of a starving man like surforia said, which can be reasoned because obviously we haven't had new material yet other than live bootlegs.. Ultimately though you can be very sure that the final versions of the songs we've already heard are going to be much better than what we've heard, in terms of sound quality, instrument mixing/balance etc.. look at the difference between the first demo of "Better" we heard and the second version, which was apparently just an "experimental mix".. listen to the difference between those two..

[Voodoochild]

Ultimately though you can be very sure that the final versions of the songs we've already heard are going to be much better than what we've heard, in terms of sound quality, instrument mixing/balance etc..

I can say that for IRS. Live, it sounds much more rocking than the demos. It's not my case, but I believe a lot of people thinks the same with Madagascar.

look at the difference between the first demo of "Better" we heard and the second version, which was apparently just an "experimental mix".. listen to the difference between those two..

I like the first one. The second has rhythm guitars and Bucket too low for my taste.

[ben9785]

Ultimately though you can be very sure that the final versions of the songs we've already heard are going to be much better than what we've heard, in terms of sound quality, instrument mixing/balance etc..

I can say that for IRS. Live, it sounds much more rocking than the demos. It's not my case, but I believe a lot of people thinks the same with Madagascar.

look at the difference between the first demo of "Better" we heard and the second version, which was apparently just an "experimental mix".. listen to the difference between those two..

I like the first one. The second has rhythm guitars and Bucket too low for my taste.

Fair enough, but I just mean generally, the instruments sound alot more clearer.. the first demo sounds a little bit muddy.. but of course, as you said the solo is a bit more quiet.. but it is just a experimental mix, so I'm sure they will find a better balance for the album version.. there's so many layers going on in the song they need to try account for everything

[newgnr]

For some reason this song reminds me of No Quarter by Led Zeppelin

[Voodoochild]

Fair enough, but I just mean generally, the instruments sound alot more clearer.. the first demo sounds a little bit muddy.. but of course, as you said the solo is a bit more quiet.. but it is just a experimental mix, so I'm sure they will find a better balance for the album version.. there's so many layers going on in the song they need to try account for everything

I'm sure the final version will have a better mix with both Better and Madagascar. At least I hope so... No demo had proper mix to really have a full musical experience.

[Getizzyback]

i say, fck demos, there going to spoil it heaps, because the sound quality is heaps good,
Dont download anymore leaks as tempting as it is.

Fine , that's your choice , you have the right not to download
if you so choose , but some of us , would like to hear the demos.
I may die before the album comes out , would be nice to have heard
some of the songs before I died!

[ibelieveinaxl]

the guitar solo with the quotes is the most intense minute of music i have ever heard...so powerful...............

[DuffRock]

the guitar solo with the quotes is the most intense minute of music i have ever heard...so powerful...............

you kidding? it sounds really forced; trying to be powerful but falling far short thanks to an overly long MLK speech sample and a lazy unimaginative guitar solo from someone who has proved they can write much better (eg. TWAT solo)

there are many GNR songs that are tonnes more powerful

[WARose]

the guitar solo with the quotes is the most intense minute of music i have ever heard...so powerful...............

you kidding? it sounds really forced; trying to be powerful but falling far short thanks to an overly long MLK speech sample and a lazy unimaginative guitar solo from someone who has proved they can write much better (eg. TWAT solo)

there are many GNR songs that are tonnes more powerful

i don`t think he`s kidding.....   i also think the solo is awesome

[LunsJail]

the guitar solo with the quotes is the most intense minute of music i have ever heard...so powerful...............

you kidding? it sounds really forced; trying to be powerful but falling far short thanks to an overly long MLK speech sample and a lazy unimaginative guitar solo from someone who has proved they can write much better (eg. TWAT solo)

there are many GNR songs that are tonnes more powerful

I have a hunch (just guessing) that there might be more of that kind of stuff on CD.  If you found it forced, you may end up disappointed.....

[gmGnR]

Okay, of course hearing demos suck because they are works in progress, unfinished pieces of music that aren't meant to be heard, yes, it might spoil the music when the final version comes out, but then there is the argument of throwing a t-bone in front of a starving man like surforia said, which can be reasoned because obviously we haven't had new material yet other than live bootlegs.. Ultimately though you can be very sure that the final versions of the songs we've already heard are going to be much better than what we've heard, in terms of sound quality, instrument mixing/balance etc.. look at the difference between the first demo of "Better" we heard and the second version, which was apparently just an "experimental mix".. listen to the difference between those two..

I disagree. Hearing demos is great because you see the progress made on songs. Granted, I'd rather hear the final version first and then discover demos later to find out how they come up with something but the choice is/was not in our hands.

[newgnr]

For some reason this song reminds me of No Quarter by Led Zeppelin

[HBK]

The Final part remembers me to LED Zepellin. There are no Doubts?

Maddy = JEWEL.

HBK *

[ibelieveinaxl]

the guitar solo with the quotes is the most intense minute of music i have ever heard...so powerful...............

you kidding? it sounds really forced; trying to be powerful but falling far short thanks to an overly long MLK speech sample and a lazy unimaginative guitar solo from someone who has proved they can write much better (eg. TWAT solo)

there are many GNR songs that are tonnes more powerful

i don`t think he`s kidding.....? ?i also think the solo is awesome

im not kidding...............

[jimb0]

I just wish the solo was louder and the quotes softer. 

[grog mug]

I think, actually I KNOW the finalized version will be beyond a masterpiece...this is THE BEST new song by far.  That's why he unleashed it during the 2002 VMA's.