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« Reply #500 on: April 01, 2007, 02:09:11 PM »

Without flinching I would bet a 1000$'s that these are not the finished vocals.

The real version will definately have vocals that will be percived as polished/cleaned up to those people who feel these current demoed vocals are cool.

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« Reply #501 on: April 01, 2007, 02:45:22 PM »

The only thing I noticed is that the vocals are a little off time at the beginning. Other than that, I think that everything else is perfect. drool
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« Reply #502 on: April 01, 2007, 02:50:47 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way to low in the mix, to much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...
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« Reply #503 on: April 01, 2007, 02:53:24 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

P.S. - It's obviously unmixed and unmastered. Also, I can hear the guitars just fine. In the verses there's not that much guitar.
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« Reply #504 on: April 01, 2007, 02:55:54 PM »

God damn I love the power and emotion of this song!  The layering of vocals in the last verse kicks ass too. 

The only small change necessary was mentioned already.  The timing of vocals on the first verse.  It's only a demo folks!  Damn we're in for a treat.  This album is going to rock.  yes

It's fucking beautiful.  Cry
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« Reply #505 on: April 01, 2007, 02:59:08 PM »

God damn I love the power and emotion of this song!  The layering of vocals in the last verse kicks ass too. 

The only small change necessary was mentioned already.  The timing of vocals on the first verse.  It's only a demo folks!  Damn we're in for a treat.  This album is going to rock.  yes

It's fucking beautiful.  Cry

The emotion in his voice is beautiful. Especially the main, gritty one in the last verse.
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« Reply #506 on: April 01, 2007, 03:04:01 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

Hmm I always assumed they were done with a synth...
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« Reply #507 on: April 01, 2007, 03:04:46 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

Hmm I always assumed they were done with a synth...

Well when they play it live, Pitman controls it. But Paul Buckmaster actually composed it for the record.

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« Reply #508 on: April 01, 2007, 03:16:47 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

Hmm I always assumed they were done with a synth...

Well when they play it live, Pitman controls it. But Paul Buckmaster actually composed it for the record.

http://www.newgnr.com/chinesedemocracy/musicians.html
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thanks for the info ok, can't really put my finger on it but I still think it all sounds a bit bloated... Undecided
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« Reply #509 on: April 01, 2007, 03:19:07 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

Hmm I always assumed they were done with a synth...

Well when they play it live, Pitman controls it. But Paul Buckmaster actually composed it for the record.

http://www.newgnr.com/chinesedemocracy/musicians.html
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thanks for the info ok, can't really put my finger on it but I still think it all sounds a bit bloated... Undecided

no problem. peace

By the way, for the people wondering about how Robin sings the end in a low voice when Axl sings it in a high voice on the demo. If you listen closely, Axl also has a low voice underneath that high voice for that part and actually, at the part right before the quotes too.
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« Reply #510 on: April 01, 2007, 04:18:03 PM »

I think it's a scratch vocal.  That said, for the final vocal I hope (though I doubt) they dump that horrible extended scream where Axl builds to a crescendo after the first verse.  I thought it sounded like shit live, and it sounds eually bad here.  In fact, it still sounds like he's running and singing at the same time. 

Also, I played this for a casual listener, and the reaction was "It's good, but Jesus, it just goes on and on."  I like the epics, but I think the point here is that this particular song is a hair repetetive, especially with the repeat of the first verse at the end. 

I'm not a fan of the MLK and Cool Hand Luke stuff in the break, at least not for duration it goes on.  I'm not thrilled with the guitar work either.

All in all, I think they could shave about a minute off this song and it would be stronger for it.   It's a good song, there's just too much of it.
 

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« Reply #511 on: April 01, 2007, 04:47:46 PM »

Isn't it great that not all bands have to follow the "three minutes and a catchy chorus" formula when writing songs?





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« Reply #512 on: April 01, 2007, 05:11:39 PM »

Isn't it great that not all bands have to follow the "three minutes and a catchy chorus" formula when writing songs?
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Those were my thoughts exactly Jarmo, thats one thing we can all be happy about.  Throughout all the leaks, none of them have been like that.
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« Reply #513 on: April 01, 2007, 05:23:38 PM »

To be honest I'm happy that this is just another demo because I hate it, Guitars are way too low in the mix, too much synth and I just can't get used to Axl's voice...

There's not that much synth in the song. You're hearing real violins and shit. This is one of the songs Paul Buckmaster worked on.

Hmm I always assumed they were done with a synth...

Well when they play it live, Pitman controls it. But Paul Buckmaster actually composed it for the record.

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« Reply #514 on: April 01, 2007, 05:28:39 PM »

needs more guitar! sounds really limp at the moment, but has the potential to be a good song i reckon.  Just not the way its being played in this demo
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« Reply #515 on: April 01, 2007, 06:07:25 PM »

I'm gonna stick my neck out on the line and date this as 1999.

Anyone else agree?

Listen to the 1999 TWAT demo and this.....I'm definitely gonna say 1999.
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« Reply #516 on: April 01, 2007, 06:10:54 PM »

its definetlt an old old demo, maybe 2002 or before.

ithinki what everyone needs to realise is that when recording songs, there is a guide vocal, so when the guitarist or whatever plays, they know which part of the song they're at!

i think the vocal on this DEMO is just the guide.
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« Reply #517 on: April 01, 2007, 06:21:29 PM »

Guys, guys, guys, and girls.  Listen.  I'm sure lots of you have heard the Nov. Rain demos as well as the Welcome to the Jungle demos.  Would you base your opinions of those songs on those raw demos? 

Just look how much changed with IRS between whenever the demo was made and when it was performed live in '06. 

We are going to be in for one hell of an album!  Totally epic.   yes 

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« Reply #518 on: April 01, 2007, 06:24:29 PM »

Guys, guys, guys, and girls.  Listen.  I'm sure lots of you have heard the Nov. Rain demos as well as the Welcome to the Jungle demos.  Would you base your opinions of those songs on those raw demos? 

Just look how much changed with IRS between whenever the demo was made and when it was performed live in '06. 

We are going to be in for one hell of an album!  Totally epic.   yes 



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« Reply #519 on: April 01, 2007, 07:32:19 PM »

whats with all this epic stuff? sure estranged and nov. rain are great "epics," but are there any "epic" songs on Appetite? I would say no, and that album is ranked up there as one of the best rock albums ever made.? So for those of you looking for every song on CD to "epic," I personally hope it doesn't happen.? I want this album to kick my ass, not take me on an epic journey.? Sure a few "epics" will be nice, but not the whole album.

in fact, i would like to hear a few tracks that are the complete opposite of "epic." I would like a track or two that is completely stripped down and is SIMPLE!  And simple doesn't mean bad, it means 2 guitars, a bass, and drums, no super funky layering, just a normal song...acoustic even.
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