Marilyn Manson

[GnFnR87]

Mechanical Animals is my favorite Manson album aswell.
it's hell of a functional lil thing.
Lyrics are mostly brilliant, which is kinda obvious. Manson is an excellent writer.

What really makes this album stand out from ACSS or HolyWood(not to mention the more irrelevant Manson records) is the music/overall sound.
IMO the band has always been kinda plagued by very mediocre composing. Mot of the music before and after MA is just kinda uninnovative, unmemorable &pretty simple hardrock that is hidden somewhere in the backround, giving room for Manson's great voice and allowing it to be the main musical instrument of the records.

But noit during MA! No sssir. Atleast not as much as on other albums. I have always LOVED the twisted glampoprock vibe of MA. Somehow, music in general is just so much more innovative, experimental and creative than on any other MM album.Extrenmely well produced.

I really got into manson around the time MA came out.Like Izzy, I also recall that there were surprisingly large amount of bad press around it.
Many fans hated it, any many critics kinda laughed at it.Both accusing Manson of "selling out" and choosing a safe and "mainstream" way of doing things, instead of continuing to be "dangerous"
Which is utter bullshit.
MA was very daring and surprising direction to move, career-wise. Much more so than some dull "hay i'm still evil and satanic, witness my hatred of christianity, which i wrote 15 songs about" - excuse of ACSS II would have ever been.

Hail Mechanical Animals!!!!

A very cool live version of Speed Of Pain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtSE2fQdnE&search=speed%20of%20pain

yep. i could not agree more. it really shows what a versatile artist he really is.? i know his last couple albums havent sold well and people still love to hate him, but i will ALWAYS respect him for this gem. Mechanical Animals is def. my favorite Manson album and one of my favorite albums ever. actually it could very well be my favorite album ever. i can surprisingly somehow relate it to my own life (no i don't do drugs) in a weird way and i just adore the sound and the lyrics are heart-stopping especially in the ballads. i still listen to it ALOT. "The Speed of Pain" is absolutely amazing. i really hope he goes out with a bang with this next album after the surprisingly mediocre Golden Age of Grotesque.?

manson said this in an interview about the new record last year:?

This album comes from a lot of different places, but I?d call it a romantic record and not in like holding hands and walking in the moonlight, but romantic like the unfulfilled yearning to be in another time or another place where you feel like you would fit in better. That?s something that everybody can relate to. It also has a lot to do with a yearning to find another person to share that with. It?s the struggle that you have looking for that. It?s very unlike anything we?ve done. It?s also very dark in a sense. I think it will probably be talked about as being very guitar oriented and very melodic and almost rock n roll in the sense that it feels and sounds very much like a band forming. It also has some surreal elements that throw it into a weird place that doesn?t quite fit.

that gets me really excited, he is really taking his time but i hope we see this record by the end of the year.

[zakas80]

i really love mechanical animals and all, but antichrist superstar is still def my favorite.  it was the album that got me listening to manson (thanks italiano) some of my favorite songs are on it, minute of decay, tourniquet, mister superstar, irresponsible hate anthem, just too name a few. 

[GnFnR87]

Yeah Antichrist Superstar is cool, i just have trouble relating to it i guess, and its just so dark and sad and the music is just so brutal and abrasive. It reminds me alot of the Downward Spiral. I love it, i respect it, but i just cant connect with it like i do with The Fragile. Same with this, Antichrist Superstar is great but i can't connect with it like i do with Mechanical Animals...

although i must say, Man That You Fear is easily one of his best songs.

i'm really interested in this new album, but Manson seems to be focusing more on the movie hes acting and directing in "Phantasmagoria" or something, so it looks like its still gonna be a while till we see anything new.

i cant wait to see what he comes up with music and image wise... he always radically changes his image and sound with every album.....

lets face it, The Golden Age of Grotesque wasn't that great, i hope he returns to form and goes out with a bang.

[zakas80]

i hear ya man, im a huge fan of the fragile as well!

i didnt know he was doing a movie, whats it about?  is he acting, directing or something?

this next album for manson i think has to be much stronger then golden age & holywood for him to be relevant in music again.  and i actually like holywood, most of it is pretty good> but a bit of filler and nonsense throughout. should have kept it to 11-12 tracks imo.

[GnFnR87]

Yes Manson is directing and acting in "Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Caroll" It is about the writer of Alice In Wonderland....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasmagoria:_The_Visions_of_Lewis_Carroll

sounds interesting... could be good....

Manson wants to "redefine the horror genre". Sounds pretty cocky but lets face it horror movies havent been that great recently mayne he'll give the genre a good kick in the ass....

[Amari2677]

i really love mechanical animals and all, but antichrist superstar is still def my favorite.? it was the album that got me listening to manson (thanks italiano) some of my favorite songs are on it, minute of decay, tourniquet, mister superstar, irresponsible hate anthem, just too name a few.?

you're welcome JM.

[Amari2677]

i really love mechanical animals and all, but antichrist superstar is still def my favorite.? it was the album that got me listening to manson (thanks italiano) some of my favorite songs are on it, minute of decay, tourniquet, mister superstar, irresponsible hate anthem, just too name a few.?

you're welcome JM.

[izzyrose]

I haven't posted on here 4 a while lol. I originally said that Beautiful People was the best song but now my favourite is fight song lol.

 

                                                                              izzyrose
                                                                                           

[Izzy]

whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

[mrlee]

making films, and a new album with tim skold.

...however its taking ages

[LeftToDecay]

whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

Right now, he's busy geting divorced i think.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/05/marilyn-mansons-marriage-is-dead/

It has been almost 10 years since last time Manson put out something really wortwile.
Really hope he gets back on his track with the next record.
I can't think of anyone who'd need a new musical direction and another songwriting team as badly as Marilyn Manson. Another record full of unmemorable riffs and mind numbingly normal industrial hard rock with dull, very safe song structures  and his catalogue is officially too boring to have a functional career based around it with.

[mrlee]

whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

Right now, he's busy geting divorced i think.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/05/marilyn-mansons-marriage-is-dead/

It has been almost 10 years since last time Manson put out something really wortwile.
Really hope he gets back on his track with the next record.
I can't think of anyone who'd need a new musical direction and another songwriting team as badly as Marilyn Manson. Another record full of unmemorable riffs and mind numbingly normal industrial hard rock with dull, very safe song structures  and his catalogue is officially too boring to have a functional career based around it with.

i think he hit peak with mechanical animals, though i do enjoy holywood, i found anti-christ to be boring tbh, a bad NIN album i thought it was.

the new album, meh, average, something youd listen to if there was nothing else you felt like having on. stuff in the early 90s is too simple for me.

[Izzy]

for all the backlash against him his music is little more than pop undeneath it all

Its still a great listen - but its very tongue in check and user friendly - its not metal in any sense of the word

[GnFnR87]

whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

Right now, he's busy geting divorced i think.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/05/marilyn-mansons-marriage-is-dead/

It has been almost 10 years since last time Manson put out something really wortwile.
Really hope he gets back on his track with the next record.
I can't think of anyone who'd need a new musical direction and another songwriting team as badly as Marilyn Manson. Another record full of unmemorable riffs and mind numbingly normal industrial hard rock with dull, very safe song structures? and his catalogue is officially too boring to have a functional career based around it with.

i think he hit peak with mechanical animals, though i do enjoy holywood, i found anti-christ to be boring tbh, a bad NIN album i thought it was.

the new album, meh, average, something youd listen to if there was nothing else you felt like having on. stuff in the early 90s is too simple for me.

the way i see it is, Mechanical Animals polarized his sound and image. it was the complete polar opposite of Antichrist Superstar. so everything after Mechanical Animals will have elements of those two albums or sound in the middle and a rehashing since we've seen both sides of his sound/image. even lyrically Holy Wood seemed to be beating a dead horse and just slightly expanding and mostly rehashing old elements of AS and MA.  hopefully this new record will be fresh and inspired but its taking forever dont know if thats good or bad.

[Lolita]

whats he up to these days - he seems to have slipped into the sidelines....

Right now, he's busy geting divorced i think.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/01/05/marilyn-mansons-marriage-is-dead/

Already !!! They seemed to be so much into each other...

As regards as albums, I must say that the one which really got me hooked on MM was Mechanical Animals ...  a really great album, without any lame track.  It 's the only MM disc I can listen to without wanting to skip a song.  I agree as regards as the current lack of interest of the band... Golden Age is not my cup of tea and Lest We Forget was just a "bring me all your money " disc ; the worst thing is that the last time Warner and his band went on tour, the music didn't sound great  (though he had Chris Vrenna with him) and at times they were perceived as a cover band...
I really hope Mazza  will go back to a more conceptual  vision and that he'll release very solid material.

[GnFnR87]

i cant believe they divorced. if i could pick one couple i would've picked them to last. Manson and Dita Von Teese really seemed perfect for each other. oh well.

[Gunner80]

for all the backlash against him his music is little more than pop undeneath it all

Its still a great listen - but its very tongue in check and user friendly - its not metal in any sense of the word

User friendly? I don't think so. User friendly is a band like the Bee Gee's.

[Drew]

I believe Marilyn Manson is now dating the beautiful actress Evan Rachel Wood.

[GnFnR87]

I believe Marilyn Manson is now dating the beautiful actress Evan Rachel Wood.

she is 19. that scares me. deeply. i read that somewhere too, not sure how true it is though.

[von]

Marilyn Manson have nearly completed work on their upcoming sixth studio album, set to come out this spring. The album is titled Eat Me, Drink Me. Wrongly reported as a new solo album by sources like Blabbermouth, the album was in fact recorded by the band who will also launch a world tour coinciding with its release.

In an October 2005 interview with mtv.com, Manson (the man) described the music that he was working on for the follow-up to 2003's The Golden Age of Grotesque as the "most guitar-driven" and "most original that I've heard created. This record has a very unpleasant attitude toward itself, and I expect it to be -- without sounding like someone who says this every time they make a record -- something above and beyond and different -- sonically, emotionally -- than anything I've done."

Since then, however, Manson and his wife, model and burlesque performer Dita Von Teese, have announced they are calling it quits. Von Teese cited irreconcilable differences in papers filed December 29th. The couple married November 28, 2005, and separated on Christmas Eve, according to court documents. Manson himself claims they've been separated since Halloween and vows no spousal support will be given. How they will affect the tone of the album remains to be seen.

Marilyn Manson has always been one of my favorite bands, along with GN'R and NIN, and now all three are releasing albums this spring. Then there's Velvet Revolver coming out in (hopefully) May or sooner. For anyone else who's a fan of these bands, 2007 is shaping up to be a phenomenal year.