CD soon?

[KaptainKuntra]

I'd say its hardly deafening (its been far worse), we had an update in December with the first tentative date and then an update saying that all recording had been finished and the album was being mixed in February. Also, they are starting another leg of the world tour at the end of this month.

If the tour starts up again and its the same setlist and still no updates or word of the album release then I might get a bit concerned.

[suicide]

Axl didn't release it "quick" in 2006, because he WANTS THE PROPER PROMOTION STRATEGY.? Just read the last letter he issued about the album, and you'll realize that soon ISN'T the word.? I'm thinking Nov. 2007 sounds reasonable.

True, but why hasn't the promotion started yet if the promotion has to take that long?
The real promotion for the Greatest Hits album started when the album was already in stores. And that cd did pretty well. You don't need to promote by forehand. When you hear the album is out now, you want to buy it now. When you hear it will be released in 4 weeks, you might forget about it.
Best thing to do right now (if the album isn't ready) is to release one or two singles (like they did with the UYI albums) to get some attention. I'm sure they've got a few songs that are finished by now. No more false starts like the Harley Davidson commercial, or yet another Chinese Democracy Tour without an album or a song on a soundtrack or video game...

[KaptainKuntra]

I would think the album will be preceeded by at least a few weeks by a single, this should make mainstream people aware that GnR are finally back before the album is released.

As theres no single I think we're at minimum a couple of months away from release. Maybe they are going to try and go head to head with VR's July release.

[SINSHINE]

It's obvious the band chose to use this next leg or two to tap an unsaturated market with the same tour that virtually the rest of the world has seen already. Once that's done...the album will be out and touring will begin again in N. America (Late Spring/Summer 2007) with an all new show chock full of new songs. That being said, I believe we will see a single released either towards the end of or immediately after these current dates.

[Voodoochild]

If my theory is right, they will finish the mixing and mastering by the end of April (before the South African dates), giving Uni 2 months to work on the proper promotion to a release in July. A single would be out in June.

Of course, it's just me trying to use a reasonable logic, something not so common with this band.

[SINSHINE]

If my theory is right, they will finish the mixing and mastering by the end of April (before the South African dates), giving Uni 2 months to work on the proper promotion to a release in July.

Perhaps using the Independence Day (July 4th...a Wednesday) as the marketing theme? July might be a little too far into the Summer for a release of this magnitude (not that it hasn't been done before, I'm sure) but the idea of 'Democracy' coming out around Independence Day here in the States would be clever.

Yes, I know this theory has been talked about before (every July 4th of the past 7 years or so) but, here we are...again 

[Beefy]

Wal-Mart hahaha. I agree that they're massive and here in the UK ASDA is pretty fucking big as well but havent you ever heard of real record stores in America? I for one won't be buying my copy of CD (if and when that is) with my bread and milk at ASDA, Ill be giving my custom to a proper record store that actually encourages music at grass roots level, not just some company trying to make a quick buck out of the Top 40 chart.

[^faeryeV]

If my theory is right, they will finish the mixing and mastering by the end of April (before the South African dates), giving Uni 2 months to work on the proper promotion to a release in July. A single would be out in June.

Of course, it's just me trying to use a reasonable logic, something not so common with this band.

please bare in mind that for a major promotional strategy the record company needs all band members FREE of other music related chores: the band members are essential for the promotion, for example to give out interviews, pull off PR-events and stunts, so on and so forth. This is why you will not see the promotional cycle starting while the band is on tour, if the promotion is to follow regular music biz-sense and procedure.

Please base your theories on logical music business practice and logic next time. Im sorry.

[absolutelytrue]

Just for the record, Wal*Mart is estimated to have roughly 25% of the American music buying market.

Ya, and "Simon" has the rest! 

[Bartlet]

Wal-Mart hahaha. I agree that they're massive and here in the UK ASDA is pretty fucking big as well but havent you ever heard of real record stores in America? I for one won't be buying my copy of CD (if and when that is) with my bread and milk at ASDA, Ill be giving my custom to a proper record store that actually encourages music at grass roots level, not just some company trying to make a quick buck out of the Top 40 chart.

thatd be nice wouldnt it? but there are precious few proper record sores around nowadays, and those there are, are a shadow of their former selves.

for those on this board who are in any doubt that wal mart is huge, a google search for details of other stores owned by walmart ?(asda, woolworths in some countries) will dissabuse them of their views. you may choose not to shop at these stores (as i do) but that doesnt mean tyhe record label wont care bout selling through them!

on the other hand, the scissor sisters probly just thought well fuck it and fuck our label. the only place we'll lose sales is the states. and that turned out to be the case. there is a tendencey among many to ignore, or forget, that europe is a huge market. i would not be remotely surprised if record sales and ticket sales go better in europe than the US, for the current incarnation of gnr, once they have an album to sell.

[russtcb]

I cannot see how anyone still thinks this album will be released without weeks of promotion and a proper single.

[Bartlet]

If my theory is right, they will finish the mixing and mastering by the end of April (before the South African dates), giving Uni 2 months to work on the proper promotion to a release in July. A single would be out in June.

Of course, it's just me trying to use a reasonable logic, something not so common with this band.

please bare in mind that for a major promotional strategy the record company needs all band members FREE of other music related chores: the band members are essential for the promotion, for example to give out interviews, pull off PR-events and stunts, so on and so forth. This is why you will not see the promotional cycle starting while the band is on tour, if the promotion is to follow regular music biz-sense and procedure.

Please base your theories on logical music business practice and logic next time. Im sorry.

erm...so a band has never done photos or given promo interviews while on tour...?

[Bartlet]

I cannot see how anyone still thinks this album will be released without weeks of promotion and a proper single.

does anyone still believe that? i think the very best we can ask for is an anouncement on the release date (at least late june) in the next few days, prior to the tour starting, and a single very soon indeed.

[russtcb]

I cannot see how anyone still thinks this album will be released without weeks of promotion and a proper single.

does anyone still believe that? i think the very best we can ask for is an anouncement on the release date (at least late june) in the next few days, prior to the tour starting, and a single very soon indeed.

I'm hoping with everything I got for that to be true.

[BKinNYC]

"The band is too quiet" = CD is coming!

"The band is out there touring and giving interviews" = CD is coming!

"Let's make a thread that speculates CD is coming, for the one-hundred billionth time" = CD starts now!

 

[AxlsMainMan]

September or November.

[ppbebe]

If my theory is right, they will finish the mixing and mastering by the end of April (before the South African dates), giving Uni 2 months to work on the proper promotion to a release in July. A single would be out in June.

Of course, it's just me trying to use a reasonable logic, something not so common with this band.

please bare in mind that for a major promotional strategy the record company needs all band members FREE of other music related chores: the band members are essential for the promotion, for example to give out interviews, pull off PR-events and stunts, so on and so forth. This is why you will not see the promotional cycle starting while the band is on tour, if the promotion is to follow regular music biz-sense and procedure.

Please base your theories on logical music business practice and logic next time. Im sorry.

So you are implying that the promotion is likely to start before mexico???

[redx]

Starting to think that there is going to be a quick release.
Bands been quiet, normally happens when shit is happening behind the scenes.
Heared the rumour about the Brain leaving as he was told about a 2008 release, I dont buy that shit for one minute .The tommy stuff on the other hand seems more of a white lie to delay...its all the behind the scenes shit...
Soon IMO..soon... brothers and sisters.

The bands (probably) been quiet because they are busy with tour stuff.

Until Brain appears on stage again, I think its safe to say he is no longer in the band.

I'm not sure about the Tommy stuff. If his hand was damaged as much as they say, I'd have thought he would have needed afew months to recover.

[redx]

I have never seen a Walmart in Australia....
We not major enough? You know be the largest island on this planet and all.....

Be think full you don't have a wal-mart..

I don't think Europe has Wal-Mart, or at least the UK doesn't. We don't want Wal-Mart, as we have Tesco, and Tesco are about to launch into the US, so Wal-Mart had better watch out, as Tesco wants to rule the world.

[redx]

September or November.

care to add a year to that?