22 Killed in US school Shooting

[sandman]

we should ban guns just like we banned drugs.

[GNRreunioneventually]

we should ban guns just like we banned drugs.

yeah that would work great

how would we fight wars and if there was a ban on guns people would still use them like they do with drugs

[GeorgeSteele]

we should ban guns just like we banned drugs.

yeah that would work great

how would we fight wars and if there was a ban on guns people would still use them like they do with drugs

I think he was being sarcastic.  For example:  OK, then let's not ban anything at all, since bans on drugs have not been very effective.

[AxlsMainMan]

Things need to change, but they never will thanks to bureaucratic douchebags.

[CheapJon]

what the fuck just read about this.. what's wrong with people..



in america they should show bowling for colombine in school, most of you guys probably have already seen it, see it again..

it's so sad, i read 33 killed (could be wrong) it's a tragedy for everybody, think about the people who knew the ones getting killed.. it's hundreds of people who's directly "affected" by this..

[Eazy E]

I can't believe some people in this thread are saying more guns are the solution.

Guns came about around the 15th century. Was there violence before then? Why, yes, in fact, on a ridiculously bloody scale! Hmm...let me think. The Romans, the Mongols, the Persians...nope, no guns. Yet they conquered the fucking world in a very violent fashion.

What is this trying to say?  The easy access to guns may not be the CAUSE of violence, but how the fuck does it help the situation?

[GNRreunioneventually]

cheap jon, you were right they just said on CNN 33 including the gunner (no pun intended)

R.I.P. what a damn shame

[GeraldFord]

God help us all...

What the fuck is wrong with people?

[cliffburton]

If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns. A ban on alcohol didn't work. A ban on drugs isn't working. Why do people think a ban on weapons will be any different?

The only way it would be any different is if it becomes completely impossible for guns to be manufactured. Ain't gonna happen.

a ban on guns did the job in britain. nobody is saying it would stop all gun crimes, but surely to take a bite out of them would be worthwhile?

Britain's property crime has sky rocketed since the gun ban. ?What part of law abiding citizens don't some of you comprehend. ?The 2nd Amendment isn't about the right to hunt or even self-defense. ?It's the fundamental right of American citizens to own private firearms should their government become tyranical as was the case in the American Revolution. ?Dr. John Lott's research has shown that outlawing guns does nothing to lower crime. ?Simply look at Washington D.C. where all firearms are outlawed. ?Criminals will always have guns. ?

Even more amazing, people seem to think these school shootings are common. ?While each one is tragic, the media's expolitation is nothing but misleading. ?School crime and violence is at an all time low. ?Do some research and quit going off of opinion. ?Firearms are inanimate objects. ?Saying guns kill people is like saying spoons make Rosie O'Donell fat.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

in america they should show bowling for colombine in school, most of you guys probably have already seen it, see it again..

Did this movie blame video games?  I cant remember which one did that. 


A sad situation indeed 

[cliffburton]

in america they should show bowling for colombine in school, most of you guys probably have already seen it, see it again..

Did this movie blame video games?? I cant remember which one did that.?


A sad situation indeed?

Bowling For Columbine is one of the most ridiculous and dishonest movies ever made.  Moore is a oppurtunistic, worthless piece of dogshit.  Thank god he has gone into hiding after his botched get out and vote drive in 2004.

[cliffburton]

I see SLC deleted his post, maybe he found the info, I will still provide the info he requested.

http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493644/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5961820-0093711?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176764450&sr=8-1  --  All research shows the change in crime and gun ownership stats.


http://www.amazon.com/Bias-Against-Guns-Everything-Control/dp/0895261146/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b/102-5961820-0093711?ie=UTF8&qid=1176764450&sr=8-1  -- Shows how crime rates drop proportionally to increased media coverage.


http://www.johnlott.org/  -- All data sets can be downloaded from here since I know you won't buy or borrow the book.

[SLCPUNK]

Lott's research has drawn plenty of criticism from his colleagues. Just because he wrote a book that supports your position does not mean anybody here agrees with it.

[SLCPUNK]

  It's the fundamental right of American citizens to own private firearms should their government become tyranical as was the case in the American Revolution. 

You think the government is coming to get us? Once our guns are taken away from us?

[cliffburton]

Lott's research has drawn plenty of criticism from his colleagues. Just because he wrote a book that supports your position does not mean anybody here agrees with it.

Look at the data sets and then make an opinion.? Lott was never funded by the NRA, only later celebrated.? His critics can't make the same claim for lack of bias, Sarah Brady has fiscal ties.

It's the fundamental right of American citizens to own private firearms should their government become tyranical as was the case in the American Revolution.

You think the government is coming to get us? Once our guns are taken away from us?

Personally, no I do not.? But it is always possible.? For someone who's vehemenetly Anti-Bush as you, I'd assume you'd not find it not too hard to believe in gestapo tactics in the near future.? Regardless, it's a fundamental right to preserve liberty.

[SLCPUNK]

Look at the data sets and then make an opinion.  Lott was never funded by the NRA, only later celebrated.  His critics can't make the same claim for lack of bias, Sarah Brady has fiscal ties.

It is his colleagues that criticize his data, and feel that he produces no real credible proof.

Personally, no I do not.  But it is always possible.  For someone who's vehemenetly Anti-Bush as you, I'd assume you'd not find it not too hard to believe in gestapo tactics in the near future.  Regardless, it's a fundamental right to preserve liberty.

What it meant then and what it means now, are two totally different things entirely. Nobody is going to create a militia and fight the boogy-man and you know it.

Somebody like Bush can attack his own country without ever using a gun-in fact he already has.

[Eazy E]

Criminals will always have guns. ?

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Is this the evil baddy criminal that will always have a gun that you are referring to?

We're talking about a college student's easy access to a gun, what is the purpose? ?To uphold some American right that was put into place 100 years ago? ?This is the 21st century, changes should be made to move forward and better everyone's lives... Especially from a country that is thought of as a world leader.

[Jessica]

I'll just say it

The same people shot today were defending their ''right'' to bear arms yesterday

You reap what you sow

Honestly what do Americans expect?

And not one of you will do anything about it - you'll be defending your ''right'' tommorow and savaging any politician that dares to do something about this

Jesus, i never thought i'd ever agree with anything this man says...quick, the calendar 

[GNRfan2008]

Criminals will always have guns. 

http://capefeare.com/snake.gif

Is this the evil baddy criminal that will always have a gun that you are referring to?

We're talking about a college student's easy access to a gun, what is the purpose?  To uphold some American right that was put into place 100 years ago?  This is the 21st century, changes should be made to move forward and better everyone's lives... Especially from a country that is thought of as a world leader.

That right has been around for more like 200 years. I agree with you about what needs to be done. I'm in college (live on campus in a dorm) and am pretty shaken right now by this even though I'm in Texas. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this. God bless the victims.

School seems so insignificant right now it's not even funny.

[cliffburton]

Criminals will always have guns.?

http://capefeare.com/snake.gif

Is this the evil baddy criminal that will always have a gun that you are referring to?

We're talking about a college student's easy access to a gun, what is the purpose?? To uphold some American right that was put into place 100 years ago?? This is the 21st century, changes should be made to move forward and better everyone's lives... Especially from a country that is thought of as a world leader.

That right has been around for more like 200 years. I agree with you about what needs to be done. I'm in college (live on campus in a dorm) and am pretty shaken right now by this even though I'm in Texas. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this. God bless the victims.

School seems so insignificant right now it's not even funny.

What do you have to be fearful of?  there are 2700 public universites in America.  When was the last shooting prior to this.  Don't fall into the hysteria, use your head.  This is a tragedy, but sticking your head in the sand and letting your imagination get the best of you isn't helpful or healthy.