The Don Imus circus....

[SLCPUNK]

Well hells bells man........even a broken clock is right twice a day........

exactly...so whens the next time you guys are going to be right?  jk

2008.

[Bodhi]

Well hells bells man........even a broken clock is right twice a day........

exactly...so whens the next time you guys are going to be right?? jk

2008.

good comeback 

[SLCPUNK]

Haha, I almost thought you had me on that one too.........

[Axlfreek]

i love it how "african americans" can be as racist as they want with there bullshit rap noise and get away with it

[GNRfan2008]

Imus fucked up bad. I think he was a victim of his own ignorance - he stepped in the middle of someone's Cinderella Story and shit on a bunch of kids who came from tough backgrounds who were doing well, without realizing he was getting in the middle of a sports story that was inspirational to a lot of people. It struck a raw cord with a lot of people, because it was in essence a remark of great cruelty against a defenseless target, which in American media culture means you are going to get slammed bigtime. The "nappy head" phrase is as loaded as the word "nigger" is with racist baggage, and finishing it off by calling them whores was a really bad move.

These girls were making it to the top by following the rules and the path of success that is legitimate in our society, and Imus just stepped in a big pile of his own poo-poo by denigrating them for the sake of a good laugh from his audience of cynical old white bastards. He is welcome to his free speech, but he is also a player in the marketplace, and that is where the price was paid. Sponsors are pulling out from him left and right. MSNBC probably had no choice - boycotts are coming next. He pissed people off that bad. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, he's been a racist fuck for years.

His producer is the one who first called them "hoes." Imus just elaborated and made a really stupid comment on top what his producer said. For some reason, that producer isn't catching any crap for his use of similar language. As for the actual words themselves, huge mistake by Imus regardless of whether it was meant as a comedy routine. 

[mega_music]

IMUS CANNED BY CBS RADIO!!!!
http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=386000

This is a very sad day for radio, I dont understand why these big radio corps are not standing up for their personalties. This is another reason why Sat radio will be the future of radio. I am not a Imus fan (Ba Ba Booey) but this is very sad for Imus, his fans, and anyone that works in the industry. Someone who has been in the industry for so many years was royally fucked out of his job.

[SLCPUNK]

I dont understand why these big radio corps are not standing up for their personalties.

One word: Money.

[BurningHills]

It's official: CBS canned him.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html


Can't say that I'll miss the racist bastard! 

[GNRfan2008]

It's official: CBS canned him.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html


Can't say that I'll miss the racist bastard! 

If you knew the context of it, you wouldn't call him racist so easily. It was a comedy routine, but besides that, his show had great content compared with the garbage on TV. Russert and many other respected journalists and politicians always appeared on his show. I love how everyone is so quick to call him a racist. There are far bigger problems for African Americans. I would say Sharpton and Jackson are bigger racists than him. They caused public opinion to convict the Duke LaCrosse players in a scandal that turned out to be completely fabricated by the accuser. And they REFUSE to apologize for their role in humiliating and ruining the lives of those young men. Bill Cosby is a man I have a ton of respect for. Instead of blaming the likes of Imus, African American leaders should blame music corporations for allowing the lyrics in 99% of the rap out there. The rap "culture" is a cancer for America, particularly for African Americans.

Speaking of racists, Axl Rose's lyrics in "One In A Million" were SERIOUS, unlike Imus' routine. If you want to lump the generic "racist" stereotype on him, then perhaps you should do the same for Axl. I assume now you are going to attempt to defend Axl when there is no defense for his lyrics. But I will say in Axl's defense, like Imus, he got blamed for something that really isn't much of a problem compared to the rap culture. Sharpton said today that no one should be allowed to use PUBLIC airwaves for racist or sexist degradation. What, then, has been going on the last 15 years with most rap? Our culture has dictated that words like "bitch" are okay on TV and on the radio. So even with editing of the "f" or "n" words on the radio, you still have the "bitch" and "hoe" language thrown around way too casually. Hopefully the country uses the Imus situation to finally wake up and realize what the real issue is.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Imus should head for satellite. Id love to see Stern and Imus go at it!

[Krispy Kreme]

what I want to know is why this story got airplay on ESPN. WTF? I don't get the relevance.

[Verse Chorus Verse]

A radio DJ got fired in Northeast PA recently for making "nappy headed hoes" the "Phrase that Pays." Callers had to repeat the phrase as many times as possible in one minute in order to recieve a cash prize.

What a douche.

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[Booker Floyd]

IMUS CANNED BY CBS RADIO!!!!
http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=386000

This is a very sad day for radio, I dont understand why these big radio corps are not standing up for their personalties. This is another reason why Sat radio will be the future of radio. I am not a Imus fan (Ba Ba Booey) but this is very sad for Imus, his fans, and anyone that works in the industry. Someone who has been in the industry for so many years was royally fucked out of his job.

I agree with this to an extent. 

Then part of me realizes what this was: a white guy using racist insults - not jokes - alongside his white co-hosts.  There was no point or punchline to what he said, no joke.  It was said without wit.  Thats the risk of racial humor, but Imus didnt use racial humor, he used racist "humor." 

With that said, I personally dont think it was worthy of firing.  His apology seemed genuine, he was humiliated, and he was effectively put on watch.  I think thats sufficient.  Others didnt, and they have the freedom to pressure advertisers to drop his show.  Thats when his company should have stood their ground, just as numerous papers and stations did with Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly.  In fairness, my dislike for those two figures is much stronger than my dislike for Imus, so I wouldnt have felt bad if they were dropped, but theyve shown that the storm can be weathered and his company should have taken notice.   

My other issue is the line - where does it end?  If a broadcaster insults a different basketball team by calling them ugly or something similar, will he be forced to apologize or resign?  Are diseases off-limits?  Handicaps?  Ive always been very wary of forcing standards of taste and I still am.  I certainly dont like the idea of corporations dedicating their airwaves to racism, but I think theres degrees.  I think theres far more seriously racist things being said by the likes of Glenn Beck in the guise of political points.  Theyre subtler than what Imus said, but worse, in my opinion. 

Then theres a lot of seperate issues involving the priorities and hypocrisies of some of the protestors that I wont even bother discussing.   

[freedom78]

A radio DJ got fired in Northeast PA recently for making "nappy headed hoes" the "Phrase that Pays." Callers had to repeat the phrase as many times as possible in one minute in order to recieve a cash prize.

What a douche.

(700th post)

Calling someone a douche is a sexist remark against women with odor issues.

[Krispy Kreme]

A radio DJ got fired in Northeast PA recently for making "nappy headed hoes" the "Phrase that Pays." Callers had to repeat the phrase as many times as possible in one minute in order to recieve a cash prize.

What a douche.

(700th post)

Calling someone a douche is a sexist remark against women with odor issues.

Ok, let's discuss this one is exquisite detail, to the delight  of many and shame to even more...

[SLCPUNK]

A radio DJ got fired in Northeast PA recently for making "nappy headed hoes" the "Phrase that Pays." Callers had to repeat the phrase as many times as possible in one minute in order to recieve a cash prize.

What a douche.

(700th post)

Calling someone a douche is a sexist remark against women with odor issues.

That's right, D's vagina is extremely offended.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Imus insulted blacks and women with his comment. But I don't think he deserved to be fired over it. The guy said a really stupid thing. Apparently the guy does a lot of charity work and raises money for good causes.  I think its a bit absurd to overshadow that and potentially end the career of a man who is almost a legend in radio over some comments he definitely should not have made. Bottom line is that Imus' firing came down to money. Pressure was on the sponsors and they were leaving. 

We all have gotten so sensitive and politically correct that Imus is the major crisis of the week.
 

[Gordon Gekko]

Different subcultures in America express things that are quite different with the same words. "Nappy headed ho" coming from a white person towards a black girl is loaded with Jim Crow looking down his nose at black women, defining the entire black female sex as prostitutes. The same type of remarks directed amongst black people is supposed to be expressions of solidarity among a suffering class. One must remember, for centuries white people claimed a legal right to rape, torture and murder these people based upon the idea they are an inferior race. Any type of public move to define them as inferior is frightening for them in a way white people either do not understand or that they discount. Mr. Imus crossed the line into that area of our national experience that is still an open sore.

[freedom78]

Imus insulted blacks and women with his comment. But I don't think he deserved to be fired over it. The guy said a really stupid thing. Apparently the guy does a lot of charity work and raises money for good causes.  I think its a bit absurd to overshadow that and potentially end the career of a man who is almost a legend in radio over some comments he definitely should not have made. Bottom line is that Imus' firing came down to money. Pressure was on the sponsors and they were leaving. 

We all have gotten so sensitive and politically correct that Imus is the major crisis of the week.

I agree that it's a sad state of affairs when a guy gets run out of town like this by the PC police.  Funny thing is, every time I turn on the news, there's a black man or woman talking about how it's way too PC, and a white guy talking about how it's the right move to fire him.  Yeah, it comes down to money.  But it also comes down to the larger issue of white people being fearful of the racist tag.  MSNBC and CBS didn't want that tag.  White people everywhere calling for his ouster were afraid of the tag if they supported him. 

It's too bad, because they guy actually did something pretty rare these days.  He made a sincere apology.  Not through his agent (Terrell Owens, I'm lookin' at you!), and not a half-assed apology (every other celebrity apology for the last decade).  He said he fucked up, and that it was stupid.  This is how it's SUPPOSED to work!  You fuck up, you say (and MEAN) you're sorry, you get some punishment, and life goes on.  But he got canned.  Pretty soon, we won't be able to say our assholes are brown, without someone thinking it's racist. 

[freedom78]

Different subcultures in America express things that are quite different with the same words. "Nappy headed ho" coming from a white person towards a black girl is loaded with Jim Crow looking down his nose at black women, defining the entire black female sex as prostitutes. The same type of remarks directed amongst black people is supposed to be expressions of solidarity among a suffering class. One must remember, for centuries white people claimed a legal right to rape, torture and murder these people based upon the idea they are an inferior race. Any type of public move to define them as inferior is frightening for them in a way white people either do not understand or that they discount. Mr. Imus crossed the line into that area of our national experience that is still an open sore.

At the same time, black culture wouldn't make the big bucks in America if it weren't for white people buying into it, too!  Rap isn't big money because 15% of the US population likes it...it's big money because it's popular among the white majority.  We shouldn't be at all surprised that white people adopt language associated with black culture.  Whites know that certain phrases are taboo ("nigger" being the most obvious example), but other phrases don't have that same taboo status to whites.  Of course, it's an insulting thing to say about someone, but the fact that these things eventually blend across cultures shouldn't be a surprise.