Injury Forces Guns N' Roses To Postpone Concerts

[jarmo]

Wait wait wait... are we brainwashed b/c we are still fans and we dont bitch about every little thing? or are we brainwashed b/c we dont buy into conspiracy theories?

Thanks for proving my point Tommie! Some people act like anyone who vocalizes their opinion is either not a real "fan" or they're trying to be start conspiracy theories.  I'm a real fan with no agenda.  I'm F'ing sick of waiting for Chinese Demoracy.  Not only because I want to hear it, but so GNR can actually get some credibility back in the mainstream.  Which happens to be the place that will matter when GNR releases this CD.  Is that a conspiracy theory? or is that a reasonable desire? 

That's the problem. You're letting something you have no control over make you frustrated.

It's an album, it'll be out when it's done.




/jarmo

[Super-Ecwfan1]

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Ok this sucks for the Japanese fans who are so wanting to see Guns return there. It blows on a major level for them since its been over a decade since G'n'R last played for them. Injuries do happen sadly..

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?My only question is this: Ok sometimes someone gets sick or hurt. Last year Brain had his issues with his family and had to take off for awhile and they brought in another drummer. Couldn't Axl hire a bassist or someone who works in a studio with the band to play the Japanese dates til Stinson got better and returned ?

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The gear and all is there in Japan according to the Stinson news piece. They could hire someone as a quick fill in for a few shows as Tommy's expected back at the end of the month for the May Tour dates.



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[novrain91]

Wait wait wait... are we brainwashed b/c we are still fans and we dont bitch about every little thing? or are we brainwashed b/c we dont buy into conspiracy theories?

Thanks for proving my point Tommie! Some people act like anyone who vocalizes their opinion is either not a real "fan" or they're trying to be start conspiracy theories. I'm a real fan with no agenda. I'm F'ing sick of waiting for Chinese Demoracy. Not only because I want to hear it, but so GNR can actually get some credibility back in the mainstream. Which happens to be the place that will matter when GNR releases this CD. Is that a conspiracy theory? or is that a reasonable desire?

That's the problem. You're letting something you have no control over make you frustrated.

It's an album, it'll be out when it's done.




/jarmo

Yeah, you're right, I am frustrated.  I would think you would be too, I mean you did start a website revolving around the band. But whatever, I'm gonna take that guy's advice from before and --drink a beer and go get laid.  Peace.

[Tommie]

Thanks for proving my point Tommie! Some people act like anyone who vocalizes their opinion is either not a real "fan" or they're trying to be start conspiracy theories.  I'm a real fan with no agenda.  I'm F'ing sick of waiting for Chinese Demoracy.  Not only because I want to hear it, but so GNR can actually get some credibility back in the mainstream.  Which happens to be the place that will matter when GNR releases this CD.  Is that a conspiracy theory? or is that a reasonable desire? 

I understand your getting frustrated with the wait, we all are.  But I am so sick and tired of people bitching just to bitch.  We all know the album is still not out, we all wish GnR would update their site more regularly, but we dont got to bitch and complain about it.  If your so sick of waiting, and all you can do between now and the time the album comes out is bitch, then may I suggest not coming onto the boards?  It kills it for everyone else who is here to have a reasonable conversation.

[jarmo]

Yeah, you're right, I am frustrated.  I would think you would be too, I mean you did start a website revolving around the band. But whatever, I'm gonna take that guy's advice from before and --drink a beer and go get laid.  Peace.

Imagine that.

I started a site and still don't feel like I'm owed something.....




/jarmo

[GNR Narc]

? ? ? ? ? ? ?Ok this sucks for the Japanese fans who are so wanting to see Guns return there. It blows on a major level for them since its been over a decade since G'n'R last played for them. Injuries do happen sadly..

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?My only question is this: Ok sometimes someone gets sick or hurt. Last year Brain had his issues with his family and had to take off for awhile and they brought in another drummer. Couldn't Axl hire a bassist or someone who works in a studio with the band to play the Japanese dates til Stinson got better and returned ?

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The gear and all is there in Japan according to the Stinson news piece. They could hire someone as a quick fill in for a few shows as Tommy's expected back at the end of the month for the May Tour dates.



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Guns kicked off the Chinese Democracy tour in Osaka 5 years ago. I have a bootleg of the show.

[Skinflick]

Wait wait wait... are we brainwashed b/c we are still fans and we dont bitch about every little thing? or are we brainwashed b/c we dont buy into conspiracy theories?

Thanks for proving my point Tommie! Some people act like anyone who vocalizes their opinion is either not a real "fan" or they're trying to be start conspiracy theories. I'm a real fan with no agenda. I'm F'ing sick of waiting for Chinese Demoracy. Not only because I want to hear it, but so GNR can actually get some credibility back in the mainstream. Which happens to be the place that will matter when GNR releases this CD. Is that a conspiracy theory? or is that a reasonable desire?

That's the problem. You're letting something you have no control over make you frustrated.

It's an album, it'll be out when it's done.




/jarmo

Yeah, you're right, I am frustrated.? I would think you would be too, I mean you did start a website revolving around the band. But whatever, I'm gonna take that guy's advice from before and --drink a beer and go get laid.? Peace.

I do give good advise......have fun bro....

[Demon Wolf]

I mean... so what if they're still mixing? Are they going to post an update every day saying:

"Album is still being mixed. Bumblefoot made the studio engineers dance to an instrumental version of the Married with Children theme."

"Uh... still mixing. Finck wore a leatherjacket."

"ProTools wasn't working so we played poker on the internet. Frank won."

"Still mixing. The cymbals was raised to about 13% of the volume of the master track."

"Mixing. And mixing. The studio kitchen mixer broke though, so we need another mixing engineer to get it working again. The end."

...I mean, come on. When there are significant news, they will be posted.

[Loaded NightraiN]

? ? ? ? ? ? ?Ok this sucks for the Japanese fans who are so wanting to see Guns return there. It blows on a major level for them since its been over a decade since G'n'R last played for them. Injuries do happen sadly..

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?My only question is this: Ok sometimes someone gets sick or hurt. Last year Brain had his issues with his family and had to take off for awhile and they brought in another drummer. Couldn't Axl hire a bassist or someone who works in a studio with the band to play the Japanese dates til Stinson got better and returned ?

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The gear and all is there in Japan according to the Stinson news piece. They could hire someone as a quick fill in for a few shows as Tommy's expected back at the end of the month for the May Tour dates.



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GNR played Japan in 02... Not sure where compared to these dates...

Axl probaly dosent want to rush someone who dosent know the parts.. To bad pitman isint any good at the bass.. Oh well...

[Super-Ecwfan1]

[Guns kicked off the Chinese Democracy tour in Osaka 5 years ago. I have a bootleg of the show.

 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Really I heard they last toured there in 1993. It still sucks regardless ....

[Super-Ecwfan1]

GNR played Japan in 02... Not sure where compared to these dates...

Axl probaly dosent want to rush someone who dosent know the parts.. To bad pitman isint any good at the bass.. Oh well...

                                                   Yeah after this there shouldn't be an excuse about the album. It should be mixed and sent in finally. Late Jan. to May should be enough time to finally do the mixing I'd think.

[Jim Bob]

If I was Axl Rose and read this bullshit everyone is whining about, I would delay shit even longer just to piss you whiners off.   he's not obligated to do a damn thing, and maybe he doesn't really feel much connection with his fans because the majority of them are never happy with anything he does, so he doesn't want to talk.  maybe?

[Loaded NightraiN]

GNR played Japan in 02... Not sure where compared to these dates...

Axl probaly dosent want to rush someone who dosent know the parts.. To bad pitman isint any good at the bass.. Oh well...

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Yeah after this there shouldn't be an excuse about the album. It should be mixed and sent in finally. Late Jan. to May should be enough time to finally do the mixing I'd think.

What does any of this hafta do with the album?

[BurningHills]

I mean... so what if they're still mixing? Are they going to post an update every day saying:

"Album is still being mixed. Bumblefoot made the studio engineers dance to an instrumental version of the Married with Children theme."

"Uh... still mixing. Finck wore a leatherjacket."

"ProTools wasn't working so we played poker on the internet. Frank won."

"Still mixing. The cymbals was raised to about 13% of the volume of the master track."

"Mixing. And mixing. The studio kitchen mixer broke though, so we need another mixing engineer to get it working again. The end."

...I mean, come on. When there are significant news, they will be posted.

Ok, I'm at work and seriously just busted out laughing while reading that! Thank God I'm in a soundproof studio! 

[King Axl]

The good: Tommy didn't break his hand.

The bad: It's still severely sprained.

The Ugly: Axl pushed him down the stairs 

[Tommie]

The good: Tommy didn't break his hand.

The bad: It's still severely sprained.

The Ugly: Axl pushed him down the stairs 

Now thats a conspiracy theory.  My personal fav though still has to be that Axl had Duff kill Kurt.

[Tyson]

This tour post-ponement is a big dissapointment to me.  I understand that shit happens and I'm not blaming anyone, but lots of people are just going to associate it with GNR's history of no show's and cancellations. 

[MotherGooseLuvR]

I mean... so what if they're still mixing? Are they going to post an update every day saying:

"Album is still being mixed. Bumblefoot made the studio engineers dance to an instrumental version of the Married with Children theme."

"Uh... still mixing. Finck wore a leatherjacket."

"ProTools wasn't working so we played poker on the internet. Frank won."

"Still mixing. The cymbals was raised to about 13% of the volume of the master track."

"Mixing. And mixing. The studio kitchen mixer broke though, so we need another mixing engineer to get it working again. The end."

...I mean, come on. When there are significant news, they will be posted.

Ok, I'm at work and seriously just busted out laughing while reading that! Thank God I'm in a soundproof studio!?

There are lots of cool details they could share.? I'm lucky enough to have heard a lot of them.?

BBF's been recording guitar work.? What songs?? Lead?? Back up?? Was it his idea to record more parts, or Axl's?? If it was his, then what exactly did he think he could bring to the album that wasn't already there?

Not only would GNR fans find answers to those questions fascinating, but I'll bet it would help everyone suffer through the latest round of crushing disappointments from Camp Axl.

Instead, we get a half-assed, insulting letter from the quasi-literate hack Del James and an article by one of their roadies about some Canadian band nobody gives a shit about.

[jarmo]

Yes, they could talk about every single fucking detail about the album now so you could say "Now we know everything about the album so there's no surprises left!  ".

Don't you have your own web site to worry about?




/jarmo

[MotherGooseLuvR]

Yes, they could talk about every single fucking detail about the album now so you could say "Now we know everything about the album so there's no surprises left!? ".

Don't you have your own web site to worry about?




/jarmo

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Oh Jarmo... don't you think there could be a happy medium somewhere between daily logs and the ridiculous excuse for PR they have now?? I think the band could find a way to explain the process of making the album while still leaving a few surprises.? Like, say,? I don't know... the music?

I've heard awesome stuff myself.? I'm sure you have.? But if we talk about it, we get blackballed by GNR and lose the chance to hear that stuff at all.  It sucks.  All fans deserve to know what's going on with their favorite band. 

I'm gonna serve you up one of these too --?

That's for how you melt down in the face of perfectly well deserved criticism.? Axl's not perfect.? There's no harm in acknowledging that.