The GN'R vs Nirvana thread

[GNRfan2008]

It's shocking that Kurt said these things about GN'R. Even if you hate GN'R and/or Axl you have to admit they were very talented and the lyrics are talented. Kurt imo is an extremely overrated musician and Nirvana is just as overrated. GN'R own Nirvana lyrically, musically, vocally etc. and I'm not just saying that as GN'R fan. Axl tried to make ends meet with Kurt, but Kurt just threw it back in his face. Kurt was a very jealous man.

Lyrically, GN'R had its moments but overall, they sang about the same crap as the hair metal junk before them. Cobain's lyrics weren't much better though. Instead of singing immature stuff like "turn around bitch I got a use for you!" (hilarious, but still immature as hell), Cobain sang about bipolar behavior (which is negative as hell and not what I'd call great songwriting):

"I like it - I'm not gonna crack
I miss you - I'm not gonna crack;
I love you - I'm not gonna crack
I killed you - I'm not gonna crack"

Overall, I would say neither one of them were great songwriters. Great songwriters provide something of meaning to the world (Bob Dylan, etc.). As you've pointed out, GN'R blows Nirvana out of the water when it comes to musical talent.

[The Legend]

All i've got to say is who's still alive and who isn't?

I wonder who was more fucked up...

Cobain & Nirvana have gotta be the most overrated guys in the history of music. I liked their stuff, but I didn't love it.

[GeraldFord]

Did KC say something about Slash in his Journal?

[ShotgunBlues1978]

One of the great paradoxes in the world is that these people like Cobain claim they're so open minded and accepting, yet are completely judgmental.  Cobain never even knew Axl Rose, but he thought he had him all figured out because of listening to One In A Million.  Cobain was a pretentious hypocrite and a real prick

If anyone hasn't read Life On Planet Rock by Lonn Friend, who used to be the editor of RIP, you should do yourself a favor and read it.  It's a great read and  there's a chapter on GnR and also a chapter on Nirvana.  Cobain comes off as a self righteous asshole

[CAFC Nick]

I read that before Kurt got famous he was known to sport an AFD t-shirt.

On subject, even if you think Nirvana are better, I don't see how you could put Kurt above Slash in the top-guitarists because Kurt pretty much plays power-chords in his songs.

[The Legend]

One of the great paradoxes in the world is that these people like Cobain claim they're so open minded and accepting, yet are completely judgmental.? Cobain never even knew Axl Rose, but he thought he had him all figured out because of listening to One In A Million.? Cobain was a pretentious hypocrite and a real prick

If anyone hasn't read Life On Planet Rock by Lonn Friend, who used to be the editor of RIP, you should do yourself a favor and read it.? It's a great read and? there's a chapter on GnR and also a chapter on Nirvana.? Cobain comes off as a self righteous asshole

Quite possibly one of the greatest & most accurate posts ever in a message board.

[axlslasher]

Nirvana and Cobain are overrated!

[pollyblue]

cobain is indeed overrated. i liked his voice but his guitar player skills were very low.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

I don't mind Nirvana but it seemed as though he made those comments for the sake of it.

[shoup]

Cobain > Rose


I like both bands, but Nirvana a little more.

[AtariLegend]

If Kurt didn't kill himself, Grunge would've been nothing more than a fad.

[mrlee]

kurts comments are just stupid. saying they are talentless and they write crap songs.

listen to the majority of in utero...he has cheek to say that about gnr.

[polluxlm]

Cobain cracks me up. Just another on of those lost and isolated people with a total unrealistic view on the world. Usually they end up dead or in a home somewhere. Justice get's served I guess. Too bad they have to be elevated to demi-gods for a while as a result though.

[GNRfan2008]

One of the great paradoxes in the world is that these people like Cobain claim they're so open minded and accepting, yet are completely judgmental.  Cobain never even knew Axl Rose, but he thought he had him all figured out because of listening to One In A Million.  Cobain was a pretentious hypocrite and a real prick

If anyone hasn't read Life On Planet Rock by Lonn Friend, who used to be the editor of RIP, you should do yourself a favor and read it.  It's a great read and  there's a chapter on GnR and also a chapter on Nirvana.  Cobain comes off as a self righteous asshole

Yeah, well said. I couldn't agree more. Cobain was definitely a self-righteous prick. This will probably piss off some of y'all on here, but I'll go ahead and say it. Axl is or at least WAS a major asshole. But at least he was NOT afraid to admit it (and he even joked about it recently when he had that dumbass fan kicked out of a concert during SCOM). Cobain pretended like he had his own shit together and was better than everyone else, when in fact he was a million times more screwed up in the head than any of the people he talked shit about.

EDIT: LMFAO...I just found an article from Rolling Stone for the 10th anniversary of Nevermind, and in it, they mention that GN'R is more influential on current rock bands (meaning 2001) than Nirvana because imitating Nirvana would feel like heading for a dead end. Yeah Kurt. GN'R was a band of talentless hacks. Riiiiiight. 

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5934228/nirvana

Even among current rock bands, where is Nirvana's influence? Those bands would certainly say respectful things about Nirvana, if asked, but they're far more likely to have been genuinely influenced by Dr. Dre, Jane's Addiction or even Guns N' Roses (a band, ironically, that Cobain despised) than Nirvana. A band setting out to emulate Nirvana must feel as if it's heading for a dead-end. Or worse.

[Adler_Sorum_Brain]

Nirvana kicks ass, Guns 2....But why in the hell should Nirvana open for GNR in 1992 ? And why in the hell should they play on Axl?s 30:th year birthday ? I don?t think it was rude of Nirvana to turn Guns down, but to mock Axl at the VMA?s was a little harsch......But duff really comes out as a little gay  here..I mean he and like 10 Security guards are pushing Krist Nsovelic around..Why not beat him up himself

This is silly..This was silly..just like every other beefs Axl has been involved with during the years.

[guns_n_motley]

Musically Nirvana SUCKED!!! Kurt couldnt play his guitar for shit...

[Mr Rage]

kurt cobain was the first EMO!!!!!

[AtariLegend]

kurt cobain was the first EMO!!!!!

Grunge sounds like EMO?

Fool!

[Mr Rage]

it's the same attidude; I hate myself and wanna die

[AtariLegend]

I guess starting a Grunge Vs Emo thread would be a bad idea then.