Q magazine article

[mrlee]

"We wanted to make a record that stands up against the greats, such as Exile On Main St.," says frontman Scott Weiland, relaxing at Hollywood's Henson Studios. "And I absolutely think we've done it."

At least he's not modest.




/jarmo

Yeah, it's always great to hear an artist being satisfied with his record    I'm glad they think it's mindblowing and 'Earth-shattering'!  Can't wait to hear Libertad! 2007 will be the best year in music since 1991 

Being satisfied and excited about your new material is one thing, to claim it's a classic and compare it to some of the all-time greatest albums is something else.

 


But he also thinks they're the only dangerous band out there these days so....



/jarmo

What's wrong with that? I didn't hear your complaints when Brain said CD would be GN'R's Led Zep III. It's great when bands are satisfied with their albums.

The stupid 'dangerous' image really did hurt you.    Hope one of them will bite a bodyguard on the leg to fulfil the requirements.

well i felt led zep 3 was the weakest of the 4, so thats not a good sign. XD

lol at the dangerous band thing jarmo pointed out again 

[jarmo]

Could you enlighten me how is that any different? What else did Brain mean by saying that?

How is it different?


Well, for one, saying "this is GN'R's Led Zeppelin II" could mean many things. It could mean the band went in a different direction compared to the past efforts.

It might mean that many people won't see it as good as the classics, but it's still filled with great songs.....

Don't be this harsh when it comes to other bands    Maybe even Scott is allowed to have an opinion.

I'm not harsh, you brought GN'R into this.

Do I need to remind you that this is a GN'R message board?

Guess you still won't assume that you hate VR with a passion, although you have the right to feel that way. But it's tacky to run a site and express hatred against a band all the time. But it's your time. 

Hatred?

I just think Scott Weiland is an overrated fraud who says a lot of really stupid things. I also think he wouldn't have the guts to face Axl in real life.

Just like Matt "what's with the piano" Sorum who meets Axl in NYC and suddenly everything is cool.....

There's no hatred there. Just my opinion.

On a bigger scale?    Last time I checked AFD was one of the best albums of all time, among some other ones. BTW there is a difference when people, who know very little about an album, claim that it will be the best album of all time. I have a strange feeling that Scott was more involved in the making of Libertad than any of us in the making of Chinese Democracy. Therefore he knows more. And you know... saying that your favourite band's next record will be the best is stupid fanboy mentality. Doesn't matter if it's GN'R, VR, NIN whatever. You may know some songs off bootlegs but they can sound different on the album. Of course, you can have high expectations.

But when you released a bounch of albums, made a new one and you feel it's your best, and maybe an all-time classic, that's called self-confidence. Am I sure that Scott was right? I don't know. I'll wait with my final judgement until the album comes out. Then I'll decide. I'm not smart enough to bash him before I hear the album.

GN'R fans are comparing a GN'R album to another GN'R album.

That's normal.

Scott is comparing his new album to one of the most well known rock n' roll albums of all times.



Saying "this is our best album and the songs are the best we've ever written" is normal. 99% of the artists do that.


Only one Weiland says his album is as good as one of the greatest albums of all times.

I don't even think his band mates would agree with him. 


Oh, and how can this mediocre guy write songs as good as Jagger/Richards?

Did VR just evolve that much since the last album that now they're up there with them?



/jarmo

[Dead Flower]

Scot isn't mediocre in my eyes, and a lot of people feel the same way.

Can't wait to have another great album from this great band.

[Booker Floyd]

How is it different?


Well, for one, saying "this is GN'R's Led Zeppelin II" could mean many things. It could mean the band went in a different direction compared to the past efforts.

It might mean that many people won't see it as good as the classics, but it's still filled with great songs.....

Would I be incorrect in assuming that you wouldnt be saying the same thing had Scott Weiland called his new record Led Zeppelin II?

Just like Matt "what's with the piano" Sorum who meets Axl in NYC and suddenly everything is cool.....

So from "whats with the piano," a comment made 17 years ago, you expected a fight?  A cold shoulder?  A confrontation over it?

And didnt Matt "whats with the piano" Sorum get into an altercation with Axl before he was fired from the band?  Is that an example of his fear of speaking his mind to Axls face?

You changed the argument pretty quickly when reminded that some of GNRs members have been less-than-modest about their own album.  Calling your material "earth-shattering" isnt modest, but you would never take issue with a GNR member saying it.  Had Weiland used that same description for Libertad, I think itd be a different story.  Your bias against VR is certainly no secret, but dont act as if theres any real point behind what youre saying, because theres not.  One of the GNR guys could say theyve made an album that ranks with the greats and you would not have the same attitude you have toward VR; this is only about your dislike of the band.  You say a lot about negativity in the GNR section, yet you personally bring your own brand to this section.  You will say "this is a GNR board, not a VR one," but why would the principle be different?  If you believe negativity spoils one section for real fans, why would you inject it into another? 

I have to wonder why you bother maintaining a section of your site thats a dedicated to a band that youre clearly hostile toward.  Its gotten to the point where youre deliberately not posting any news pertaining to them on the main page, which wasnt always the case.  You dont like this band, why keep the section? 

[Eazy E]

"I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of him were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith's Rocks. The 2000 version of Aerosmith Rocks or the 1996 Aerosmith Rocks by the time we would have put it out."

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Scott gets chirped for the same things Axl gets praised for.  Axl can take the time to act on a petty fued with Conan O Brian, but when Weiland is asked an interview question about Axl he gets this assault about being a 'fraud'...

Being a fanboy for Dummies, Pg. 74, "Use quotes made by your favourite singer in everyday conversation to rock people's world"

[Demon Wolf]

What we all need to remember here, is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree Weiland's statement is a bit over the top, but if he thinks it's better than most rock albums... Fine. We all have a different taste and perception what is good and not.

[AdZ]

"I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of him were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith's Rocks. The 2000 version of Aerosmith Rocks or the 1996 Aerosmith Rocks by the time we would have put it out."

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Scott gets chirped for the same things Axl gets praised for.  Axl can take the time to act on a petty fued with Conan O Brian, but when Weiland is asked an interview question about Axl he gets this assault about being a 'fraud'...

Well, first of all, by that point GN'R had already made several great albums respected by much of the rock community.  Velvet Revolver haven't made one yet.

Unless you really do consider Contraband an unmitigated classic.

[Booker Floyd]

Well, first of all, by that point GN'R had already made several great albums respected by much of the rock community.  Velvet Revolver haven't made one yet.

Unless you really do consider Contraband an unmitigated classic.

I wonder why Jarmo didnt feel compelled to make that point in his last post.

Only one Weiland says his album is as good as one of the greatest albums of all times.

Im sure you guys will keep finding new ways to spin it.

[SlashRock]

Well, first of all, by that point GN'R had already made several great albums respected by much of the rock community.? Velvet Revolver haven't made one yet.

Unless you really do consider Contraband an unmitigated classic.

Contraband goes double platinum yet apparently its not respected by the rock community..

OK. ?

[hartman]

Scott can say whatever he wants about VR's new album : it's only rock'n'roll and I like it....

[tomass74]

Sounds great to me.. Certain people are going to pick apart every little statement the band makes.. I say fuck em.. Libertad is right around the corner and I have a feeling it will be teh soundtrcak for the summer of 2007.


 

[jarmo]

Would I be incorrect in assuming that you wouldnt be saying the same thing had Scott Weiland called his new record Led Zeppelin II?

I already explained the difference.


There's a tiny difference if you say "this album sounds like a mix between Achtung Baby and The Wall" and saying "this album is a classic album and it'll be as great as The Wall".

I assumed you could tell the difference.


I remember Scott's claimed that Fall To Pieces would be a classic song that everybody would remember. Well, is it a new Stairway To Heaven or Satisfaction?

I don't think so.

It's not even a new Plush.

So from "whats with the piano," a comment made 17 years ago, you expected a fight?  A cold shoulder?  A confrontation over it?

He made the comment on GN'R: Behind The Music.

I kinda doubt that he made the comment to Axl when he joined the band.

And didnt Matt "whats with the piano" Sorum get into an altercation with Axl before he was fired from the band?  Is that an example of his fear of speaking his mind to Axls face?

Wow... He's dangerous.

You changed the argument pretty quickly when reminded that some of GNRs members have been less-than-modest about their own album.  Calling your material "earth-shattering" isnt modest, but you would never take issue with a GNR member saying it.  Had Weiland used that same description for Libertad, I think itd be a different story. 

He can call it earth-shattering or saying that he invented music for all I care.

But he makes ridiculous statements about how great his music is.

Your bias against VR is certainly no secret, but dont act as if theres any real point behind what youre saying, because theres not. 

Same back at you Booker.

The only bias I have is that I don't see how this guy could write anything close to the quality of songs Jagger/Richards has written.

One of the GNR guys could say theyve made an album that ranks with the greats and you would not have the same attitude you have toward VR; this is only about your dislike of the band.  You say a lot about negativity in the GNR section, yet you personally bring your own brand to this section.  You will say "this is a GNR board, not a VR one," but why would the principle be different?  If you believe negativity spoils one section for real fans, why would you inject it into another? 

The principle is different because this is a Guns N' Roses message board with a section for Guns N' Roses fans to talk about what certain former members are doing.

It''s not the other way around.

You need to learn that.

This isn't the "Scott Weiland is a God" forum where you can talk shit about Axl just because your favorite member left GN'R years ago.

I have to wonder why you bother maintaining a section of your site thats a dedicated to a band that youre clearly hostile toward.  Its gotten to the point where youre deliberately not posting any news pertaining to them on the main page, which wasnt always the case.  You dont like this band, why keep the section? 

I don't do everything for myself.





/jarmo

[Grouse]

for fucks sake why can't you people stop acting like little kids....

It's pretty clear that jarmo and some of the others hate VR deal with it..

Same goes for jarmo and the other "VR haters" in this thread...

let me ask you guys this, what do you hope to get out of this arguing?, you won't change anyone's feelings on the subject all you are doing is ruining a perfectly good thread...

[Mikkamakka]

So from "whats with the piano," a comment made 17 years ago, you expected a fight?? A cold shoulder?? A confrontation over it?

He made the comment on GN'R: Behind The Music.

I kinda doubt that he made the comment to Axl when he joined the band.


/jarmo

Wrong. In the BTM he only repeated what he had said back in like 1992. I read that interview. 

[NicoRourke]

I, for one, agree with Grouse. This wasn't supposed to be another GN'R vs VR topic.

[jarmo]

for fucks sake why can't you people stop acting like little kids....

It's pretty clear that jarmo and some of the others hate VR deal with it..

Same goes for jarmo and the other "VR haters" in this thread...

let me ask you guys this, what do you hope to get out of this arguing?, you won't change anyone's feelings on the subject all you are doing is ruining a perfectly good thread...

Nobody has answered the question or question how absurd it is that Scott Weiland will suddenly write songs that'll stand up to Jagger/Richards.

I assume most of you think he really is that good? 

Wrong. In the BTM he only repeated what he had said back in like 1992. I read that interview. 

To Axl?

I, for one, agree with Grouse. This wasn't supposed to be another GN'R vs VR topic.

Look who brought GN'R into the topic.....

It was the Slash fan.


/jarmo

[Mikkamakka]

Wrong. In the BTM he only repeated what he had said back in like 1992. I read that interview.?

To Axl?

I wasn't there. But Matt had the balls to tell his opinion about November Rain even when he was in the band.

I, for one, agree with Grouse. This wasn't supposed to be another GN'R vs VR topic.

Look who brought GN'R into the topic.....

It was the Slash fan.


/jarmo

lol, I'm a heretic!  I dare to like Slash! The guy who played a major role in GN'R's success! BTW I'm  huge axl fan, but who cares? You can't like both of them!
And I know that you are the site admionistrator here so you can do what you want and you really do what you want (others would have been banned for your trolling), but you attacked Scott cause he was satisfied with his record that we haven't heard. I only pointed out that you are not this harsh with GN'R.

And your thoughts about why it is different calling your next album Led Zeppelin II than saying it's as good as Exile... Well, i hope at least you believed that. I just don't understand why you feel the need of attacking VR all the time? It's not having an opinion, it's expressing hatred. But it's your time, hope you feel better 

[Grouse]

Nobody has answered the question or question how absurd it is that Scott Weiland will suddenly write songs that'll stand up to Jagger/Richards.

I assume most of you think he really is that good??
/jarmo

Let me answer that for you, I think it's absolutely idiotic that he is comparing libertad to legendary albums...

I, for one, agree with Grouse. This wasn't supposed to be another GN'R vs VR topic.

Look who brought GN'R into the topic.....

It was the Slash fan.


/jarmo

It takes two to start an argument...

I usually just ignore people who are flaming Vr in the gnr section just because I don't want to start pointless arguments like this...

[jarmo]

I wasn't there. But Matt had the balls to tell his opinion about November Rain even when he was in the band.

It's always easy to say something in a magazine and then just claim you were misquoted.

lol, I'm a heretic! 

Don't flatter yourself.

I was pointing out that the thread was "ruined" by one of the VR fans.

I dare to like Slash! The guy who played a major role in GN'R's success! BTW I'm  huge axl fan, but who cares? You can't like both of them!
And I know that you are the site admionistrator here so you can do what you want and you really do what you want (others would have been banned for your trolling), but you attacked Scott cause he was satisfied with his record that we haven't heard. I only pointed out that you are not this harsh with GN'R.

And your thoughts about why it is different calling your next album Led Zeppelin II than saying it's as good as Exile... Well, i hope at least you believed that. I just don't understand why you feel the need of attacking VR all the time? It's not having an opinion, it's expressing hatred. But it's your time, hope you feel better 

Slash is an amazing guitar player.


I should ban myself because I posted my opinion about a guy who's band this board isn't dedicated to? Look: Guns N' Roses!

Scott isn't in GN'R.


I'm not this harsh with GN'R? Maybe because I happen to think Axl actually is talented enough to write songs that are better than anything Scott could ever write?

Let me answer that for you, I think it's absolutely idiotic that he is comparing libertad to legendary albums...

I think it's good for him that he's happy and excited. But to me comparing his unreleased album to classic rock albums is just silly.

Maybe in 20 years he can compare and see if it's stood the test of time.






/jarmo

[Grouse]

I wasn't there. But Matt had the balls to tell his opinion about November Rain even when he was in the band.

It's always easy to say something in a magazine and then just claim you were misquoted.

Let me answer that for you, I think it's absolutely idiotic that he is comparing libertad to legendary albums...

I think it's good for him that he's happy and excited. But to me comparing his unreleased album to classic rock albums is just silly.

Maybe in 20 years he can compare and see if it's stood the test of time.

/jarmo

No contest on that one, I also think he's being a bit too optimistic I just hope that this album will be a hell of a lot better than contraband...