TWAT Discussion - your opinions

[dave-gnfnr2k]

btw anyone notice that on the shorter version its all robin playing and no BH
BH was added to the 2nd version that is longer. Check out the solo from the 5 min mark on, its different. There is no shredding on the short one. You can tell its different styles. I think the shorter version of TWAT is from 99 before BH came into the band. Which means is Paul and not Richard on guiatar.

[The Dog]

I love the guitars around the 2:40 mark, right after Axl says "there was a tiiiimmmmeeee".....very haunting...very "estranged"-esque.

Killer tune.  Easily my favorite.

Dying to know what the first single will be...en epic track like this or a solid rocker.

[jameslofton29]

There is no shredding on the short one. You can tell its different styles. I think the shorter version of TWAT is from 99 before BH came into the band. Which means is Paul and not Richard on guiatar.

Great observation, Dave! You are the first person to bring that up. Now I have one more thing to say on the matter...



































PAUL HUGE RULES!!!

[True Believer]

OK this one just surpassed Better as my fav. 
Better for a single, but this is just rad.

[brownstonemr]

Holy crap. I just have to say how amazingly Axl sings the line "that keeps you up and sitting pretty". He does that "prettay" thing. BTW, does anyone notice all of the references to high school (cigarettes, writing on the wall, class, beoynd that stall, cocaine in the hall, etc.)?

HAHA yeah thats the part of the song that I always catch myself singing. Its great.

[elmaestro]

just heard it, the song is absolutely fucking amazing. ?

Couldn't have said it any better!

It's a shame that I missed the hype the minute it was leaked, I was away for the weekend...

Can't wait for the album to be released...

[axlsalinger]

Wowsers. I was blown away by IRS and Better on the first listen, didn't really like There Was a Time that much on the first couple of tries.

However, it gets better each time I listen to it, it's really growing on me. I find this happens with the great songs, they don't hit you right away or aren't as catchy, but much deeper. It definitely feels a bit "older" than the others, like a song we could've seen on the follow-up album to UYI in the 90's.

There are some things that need to be tightened up, mix altered, vocals a bit louder. I can see the final version of this song being on par with the very best songs GNR ever put out.

I am really starting to love this song.

[shaun]

While listening to T.W.A.T - the ?dink - dink - dink? sounds that plays during the beginning of the song kept on reminding me of another track. I couldn?t for the life of me think what track. I played Buckethead?s new album ?Enter the Chicken? last night and when track 4 - ?Three Fingers? began to play it hit me, the has a very similar ?dink - dink - dink? sounding beat at the start too. Not  that I am trying to imply anything.

[jameslofton29]

I see you've found some sort of loophole in the no signature pic rule.

[T_Roxie]

Isnt that sound the compression on the track?

[Dont Try Me]

I see you've found some sort of loophole in the no signature pic rule.

indeed,

on topic: what exactly do you mean with dink dink dink?

[Mikkamakka]

Just to add I love the backjground vocals, that is a real plus to the song..

Yes, the background vocals are great.

[SWINGTRADER]

 This song has potential. It is pretty decent the first 2:36 minutes ? after that it is an absolute mess. ? It's funny how the past few yrs some fans were complaining about axl's voice and saying that the band was great. ?Now i think it is the other way around. ?i think Axl is good ?but the band sucks. ? Buckethead has not impressed me at all, ?if this is the best he can do then now I understand why he is an unknown and has never been a part of anything successful. ? The man can play fast ?but he can't write a good riff ?and has no emotion in his playing . ?I think Axl should just stick to short rockers ? nothing longer than 4 minutes . ?These are not the right guitarists for ?ballads ?or epics( like estrange, NR etc) . In the old days ? axl would set the foundation of the song ?and the guitars ?would put it over the top . ?Axl is a genius ? but he won't make it ?with these goofs on his side. ? This is the same as if leonardo da vince ?was painting a masterpiece ?and someone were beside him bumping his arm every 10 ?seconds ? the painting would get no where. ? ?But then again ?it is Axl's fault ?for picking these guys in the first place.

[Sakib]

I see you've found some sort of loophole in the no signature pic rule.

indeed,

on topic: what exactly do you mean with dink dink dink?

dink?? 

[Dont Try Me]

I see you've found some sort of loophole in the no signature pic rule.

indeed,

on topic: what exactly do you mean with dink dink dink?

dink???

you got me 

[conny]

Ther beginning reminds me of Garbage "You Look So Fine"

Souns very late 90's/millenium. I doubt this demo (as we heard it) is fresher than 2002.

[Mikkamakka]

This song has potential. It is pretty decent the first 2:36 minutes ? after that it is an absolute mess. ? It's funny how the past few yrs some fans were complaining about axl's voice and saying that the band was great. ?Now i think it is the other way around. ?i think Axl is good ?but the band sucks. ? Buckethead has not impressed me at all, ?if this is the best he can do then now I understand why he is an unknown and has never been a part of anything successful. ? The man can play fast ?but he can't write a good riff ?and has no emotion in his playing . ?I think Axl should just stick to short rockers ? nothing longer than 4 minutes . ?These are not the right guitarists for ?ballads ?or epics( like estrange, NR etc) . In the old days ? axl would set the foundation of the song ?and the guitars ?would put it over the top . ?Axl is a genius ? but he won't make it ?with these goofs on his side. ? This is the same as if leonardo da vince ?was painting a masterpiece ?and someone were beside him bumping his arm every 10 ?seconds ? the painting would get no where. ? ?But then again ?it is Axl's fault ?for picking these guys in the first place.

My opinion is close to yours. I think TWAT is too long, simply getting boring after 3 minutes (the ending is good again). BTW I have the same problem with Madagascar. Axl shines in the new songs, but the band... they have moments, but the music isN1t anything special. Is there a good riff anywhere? IRS has some good guitar works, but you can't find a memorable riff... This band is simply about Axl, the music is only a tool to help him build up the vocals. It's not a bad thing since Axl is great, but GN'R had been known for the great music, too.

[Dont Try Me]

keep in mind these are demo's, guitar parts are hard to hear on them. The studio versions will be brilliant I think. TWAT is perhaps a bit too long yes, but you can always listen to the shorter version then without Bucket. I think Bucket parts are gone ever since he left. These demo's are old. Perhaps Richard layed down new solo's instead of Bucket's parts. Richard is more then capable to do so (his outro on The Blues is great)

[Deniz]

The new songs r fucking amazing but do they really sound like queen?

[Dont Try Me]

The new songs r fucking amazing but do they really sound like queen?

#$%^#$, he never said it would sound like queen. some of the arrangements are kinda like queen. Please read axl's lines properly to avoid unnececary questions?