France opens secret UFO files covering 50 years

[Edward Rose]

Yes it was considered. But the object was 13 miles accross, and considering how low and close to Mars' surface it was, it would have impacted shortly after and EVERY amateur astronomer on Earth would have know about it.

What was the official verdict?

There were actually TWO Russian probes that were lost. They were both trying to investigate a moon of Mars that was already considered anomolous by the astronimical community, which caused many in the UFO community to theorize that the moon was actually an "Alien Base."

Here are some of the strange aspects of the moon...

The hollow nature of the moon suggested by its strange gravitational behaviour, its strange closeness to the Martian surface, its visionary discovery by Jonathan Swift, the failure of Hershell and others to discover the moon over previous decades, the sudden discovery by Hall that suggested it was not there before, and the failure of Phobos 1.

The official explanations of the loss of the two probes, Phobos 1 & 2, are below...

Phobos 1 (launched 07 July 1988) operated nominally until an expected communications session on 2 September 1988 failed to occur. The failure of controllers to regain contact with the spacecraft was traced to an error in the software uploaded on 29/30 August which had deactivated the attitude thrusters. This resulted in a loss of lock on the Sun, resulting in the spacecraft orienting the solar arrays away from the Sun, thus depleting the batteries.

Phobos 2 (launched 21 July 1988) operated nominally throughout its cruise and Mars orbital insertion phases, gathering data on the Sun, interplanetary medium, Mars, and Phobos. Shortly before the final phase of the mission, during which the spacecraft was to approach within 50 m of Phobos' surface and release two landers, one a mobile 'hopper', the other a stationary platform, contact with Phobos 2 was lost. The mission ended when the spacecraft signal failed to be successfully reacquired on 27 March 1989. The cause of the failure was determined to be a malfunction of the on-board computer.

Here is the infrared image taken by Phobos 1 right before it failed. The object is about 13 miles wide, 1 mile think and perfectly flat on the top and bottom...

[KillYourIdols]

Chip...you are still around? OMG.

I remember reading your posts like 10 years ago man...on the altnet GNR board. HAHA.

Whatever happened to that conspiracy/GNR book you wrote?

[Edward Rose]

Chip...you are still around? OMG.

I remember reading your posts like 10 years ago man...on the altnet GNR board. HAHA.

Whatever happened to that conspiracy/GNR book you wrote?

Good question. I let all that shit go, but it came back to haunt me. And then, due to me recieving an insurance settlement check and the impecable timing of weather disasters and last year's Gn'R concert at Donington, my book sort of unintentionaly became a movie.

But I don't go to bb's to whore my crappy movie or my crappy web site. So you'll have to "use illusion" to find my site, the trailer and preview clips.  And as long as you don't post a picture of me sitting on a toilet in front of a trailer, I'll mail you the double-DVD for free. 

[GNRreunioneventually]

wanna see something sick?

go here-
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5830866813023883728
found it earlier today when i was at school looking for topics to discuss in my government cover ups speech, and i typed in Alien autopsy and up came this. i thought it was kinda cool but my teacher made me X out of it before the good part. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but will tomarrow.

the first 3 minutes is nothing but looking at the body so if ya can fast forward

[Edward Rose]

Yeah I remember that when it came out in the mid-90's. There was actually a time when Blockbuster had it for rent.

All indications are that it's real, although it went through such a disinformation cover-up that I'd rather not get into it at an internet message board. (This ain't my first B.B.Q.  )

Of particular intest to me was the fact that the "Black eyes" which are typical of these "aliens," turned out in the autopsy footage to be a black organic skin coating over a regular humanoid eye ball, that seemed to act as a U.V. lense of some kind. Curious, as any hoaxer would likely have just crammed black eye balls into a fake alien body.

Funny you found that... I just used a still shot of this autopsy in my "Need Donington 2006" thread at the Appetite for Collection forum.

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=44819.msg911451#msg911451

[GNRreunioneventually]

hey ed, are there any sites on the web that has good legit information on the subject that you know of? i had to do a speech on something that was controversial and i picked this i couldn't think of any thing else. But i want to focus on how and why the government covered it up

Thanks for your help

[Edward Rose]

hey ed, are there any sites on the web that has good legit information on the subject that you know of? i had to do a speech on something that was controversial and i picked this i couldn't think of any thing else. But i want to focus on how and why the government covered it up

Thanks for your help

To be perfectly honest with you, there really ISN'T any good source for ufo info.  If you remember, I made some statements in my first post in this thread with regards to the "Truth" and other things I discovered or witnesses on my own, and how these things are rarely written about or reported on. No one wants to hear about the Visitors having great concern for some Earthling's psychological state and giving some Earthlings a form of "Shock therapy" while on a  flying saucer. Regardless, for every truth that MIGHT be out there, two lies will accompany it.

On the subject of why the gov covered it up, my best advice would be to research something called "Project Blue Book." You may also want to elaborate and theorize on my own feeling that the truth is too scary for most people, and would also show just how powerless our governments are and have no ability to protect us from the "threat."

I've left most of that s*** behind me, and am now working on "Political" stuff... and it's all going "perfectly to plan." 

[Sober_times]

I've always felt it is very naive to think in a universe so big there would be no life except ours.

I've also found it is just like us self-centered humans to be so naive and think we are so important in a universe this big to be "secretly" visted upon, studied and/or controlled by some alien race.?

[Grouse]

hey ed, are there any sites on the web that has good legit information on the subject that you know of? i had to do a speech on something that was controversial and i picked this i couldn't think of any thing else. But i want to focus on how and why the government covered it up

Thanks for your help

To be perfectly honest with you, there really ISN'T any good source for ufo info.? If you remember, I made some statements in my first post in this thread with regards to the "Truth" and other things I discovered or witnesses on my own, and how these things are rarely written about or reported on. No one wants to hear about the Visitors having great concern for some Earthling's psychological state and giving some Earthlings a form of "Shock therapy" while on a? flying saucer. Regardless, for every truth that MIGHT be out there, two lies will accompany it.

On the subject of why the gov covered it up, my best advice would be to research something called "Project Blue Book." You may also want to elaborate and theorize on my own feeling that the truth is too scary for most people, and would also show just how powerless our governments are and have no ability to protect us from the "threat."

I've left most of that s*** behind me, and am now working on "Political" stuff... and it's all going "perfectly to plan."?

I've read so many books about "project blue book" I feel that there has to be some truth to it...

It's too bad that almost all the documents that were released under the FOIA concerning "blue book" were useless since everything that could be even remotely intersting was blacked out...

I remember another one of these projects not sure what it's name was could it be project "Majestic"?



Oh and CDeventually you might find this stuff interesting:

http://foia.fbi.gov/bluebook/bluebook.pdf

[2112]

Werent there some shit that crasched in Soviet Russia during the 60s?

[GNRreunioneventually]

yeah i think there was but i forget what exactly i think it was just a astroid i don't remember


ohh and thank you Grouse the link doesn't work for me but i'll google it

and ed, i can beleive that cause for every one person that has seen it all or does know the truth there are at least 2 dumbasses that just want atension and will say what ever

Thanks again for the help

[Grouse]

yeah i think there was but i forget what exactly i think it was just a astroid i don't remember


ohh and thank you Grouse the link doesn't work for me but i'll google it

and ed, i can beleive that cause for every one person that has seen it all or does know the truth there are at least 2 dumbasses that just want atension and will say what ever

Thanks again for the help

You need a .pdf viewer like acrobat reader or foxit reader to view it   

[Edward Rose]

I've read so many books about "project blue book" I feel that there has to be some truth to it...

It's too bad that almost all the documents that were released under the FOIA concerning "blue book" were useless since everything that could be even remotely intersting was blacked out...

I remember another one of these projects not sure what it's name was could it be project "Majestic"?



Oh and CDeventually you might find this stuff interesting:

http://foia.fbi.gov/bluebook/bluebook.pdf

The thing you're referring to is called the "Majestic 12 Documents." Those are also caught up in confusion, as some of the documents are real and others can't be proven either way. But MJ-12 is supposed to be a group of controllers... similar to the group Cancer Man reports to in The X-files, who actually control the world. Bush Sr. is supposedly one of the only faces we would recognize as a current-day member of this group, which is only one of the reasons why he's the target of my political agenda.

http://www.majesticdocuments.com

[2112]

or something like that.

funny bunkerthing though.

[Edward Rose]

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6046596687847798944 

[CheapJon]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6046596687847798944?

i find that hilarious

[Robman?]

First of all, why do all aleins seen by humans have that cliched look?

why can't we have smart, intelligent beings like Star Trek?

[Axlfreek]

why can't aliens be handsome like marlon brando from superman

[Edward Rose]

why can't aliens be handsome like marlon brando from superman

Just calm down everyone. We already HAVE good looking aliens. This one is from a planet called Naboo...

[CheapJon]

that's actually an actor from a movie