"Better" - discuss it in this thread

[MrBrOwNsToNeR]

For those who are looking for it, there's a bare-naked link on the internet somewhere, not really hard to find. I hear some synthman fans have it on their forum, dunno about that though...

Anyway, the fart noises at the end of the song make me think my headphones are busted, so they suck balls. Bucket's solo is not loud enough and the metal-bridge is overshadowed by the synth shyth. Axl's vocals are a lot better though, and I absolutely love the new, more bluesy sounding guitar added in the second part of the metal breakdown, that is a classic guitar sound. The new drums rock, especially during the chorus. I like how he now sings "I like it BETTAAAAARGH", if you know what I mean? The intro/outro still suck major ass though; it's less harsh and less annoying, but it's a musical piece-o-crap in my humble opinion...

I agree for the fart noises at the end... I hate it.

I like how he now sings "I like it BETTAAAAARGH", if you know what I mean? The intro/outro still suck major ass though

I know what you mean: i like it too !
 and i agree for the intro/outro.

i think this song is over-Produced, too many effect ...

[Locomotive98]

The intro/outro is one of the worst things ever produced by the GNR name. Sounds like some Emo rubbish with terrible guitars.

[TheMole]

As for the new guitar part I mentioned, could it be that this is the new bumblefoot part that has been talked about? If so, I don't see the big deal, it's just chords, any John Doe guitarist can do that. I mean, I can, and I ain't gifted at all .

[bazgnr]

Again, I think the new backing harmonies at 4:10 pretty much show that this is *not* the previous leaked version.  I do think the mix is a bit strange, though.  As I mentioned before, the song sounds a bit weak with headphones - all the bass is panned right, along with most of the guitar, leaving the synths/effects on the left.   *That* makes me suspicious about how "final" this version is...

[MrBrOwNsToNeR]

Again, I think the new backing harmonies at 4:10 pretty much show that this is *not* the previous leaked version.  I do think the mix is a bit strange, though.  As I mentioned before, the song sounds a bit weak with headphones - all the bass is panned right, along with most of the guitar, leaving the synths/effects on the left.   *That* makes me suspicious about how "final" this version is...

maybe just a bad encoding...

[russtcb]

I personally think that this is

A) The final version

and

B) I fucking love it and hope I'm right.

[KaptainKuntra]

It doesn't sound much different to the old version to me, there again Im listening at very low volumes on shitty speakers. Slightly different mix, solos sound exactly the same, just a few more bars of the heavy bit.

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

sounds to me like i can hear every note of the old version right throught the song.some added synth and drum s louder at parts.could easily be fake.if the solos were in some way different then we could have something real but someone who knows what they are doing behind a mixer could have easily made this.

        i could be wrong so make yer own minds up 

[Wooody]

It sounds a lot better than the previous version ? If this is not the final version (bbfoot and Dizzy said it is not) then it's not a bad one at all.

[whiny]

It sounds a lot better than the previous version ? If this is not the final version (bbfoot and Dizzy said it is not) then it's not a bad one at all.

when and where did dizzy say this?

[hackvresse]

@PM-people

just read the posts

[hackvresse]

FFS

read the posts and dont ask for PMs

[whiny]

old version - besides the poor sound quality - was cooler and had a more relaxed "athmosphere"; in the new one there's way too much synth; e.g. during second verse and the middle part; if they leave it like this, the song is already dated by now. plus: intro has an additional "sound-carpet"; outro is now boring; both sound as if been done with "garage band" on some laptop... please don't over- or underproduce this masterpiece.

so i'm hoping what dizzy and bumble said is true...

[MrBrOwNsToNeR]

sounds to me like i can hear every note of the old version right throught the song.some added synth and drum s louder at parts.could easily be fake.if the solos were in some way different then we could have something real but someone who knows what they are doing behind a mixer could have easily made this.

        i could be wrong so make yer own minds up 

did you heard the voice ?

it has not been done just with a mixer dude...

i'ts clearly a new version.

the last version ? i dont know but it's new material.

[danijel]

I hope this isn't the final version because it sucks

[MrBrOwNsToNeR]

fucking outro/intro... 
fucking chorus ...
Fuckin synth ... 

[A Private Eye]

People asking for Pms just check Wooodys last post, the clues are all there for you. Just use your heads......

[whiny]

drums are quite different; the first verse is pretty similar to the harley spot that was never broadcasted

[CheapJon]

this will probably get deleted, but people are you retarded? i hope you all get banned for asking for pms, just send a pm to one of those who have heard it and they might help you, now i wont if i don't know you so if i have never seen your screen name or anything don't bother sending a pm



this version kicks ass, if this aint the final version we'll be in for a huge song in the end

[dizzystradlin]

this version has different lyrics from old one
listen to second verse of song (about 2:11)
it has same lyrics with first verse : "Now I know you better you know I know better Now I know you better"
old demo has "I know you you know you know better you know I know you know better Now You know me better"