"Better" - discuss it in this thread

[estranged.1098]

i just heard better the full demo, and it dissapointed me so much!!!

the first 2 minutes of the song that i have heard previously, i loved it!!
but then the song changes with the solo...i dont know is not what i was expecting to hear

im dissapointed 

You need time to get used to the middle part, at least that's how it worked for me. Don't know if it's because I had listened to the 2 minute clip so many times or it's just the song, but it doesn't matter now. 

[bigcash2002]

I have to admit, the 1st time I heard the complete version of better, I thought some parts sounded a bit odd/weird.  But the more I listened to it and more I liked it and now I love it.  It sounds so kick ass and the band sounds pretty bad ass to me

[judgesmf]

Hi All ,

As you can see im new to these waters but have been a regular on another site for a little while.

Better is awsome , Did I hear somewhere that there is a instrumental version??

[Niko]

Hi All ,

As you can see im new to these waters but have been a regular on another site for a little while.

Better is awsome , Did I hear somewhere that there is a instrumental version??

you heard right

there is an instrumental version

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Guns N' Roses - Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better.

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better


The hardest part
This troubled heart has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when I longed you'd take me
To break the challenge
That brought me home and all that won't erase me

I never would know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part, you stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough, but just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better,
Now I know you better

So bittersweet, this tragedy won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me still searches for solution
A twist of fate, a change of heart
Kills my infatuation,
A broken heart, provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
Ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)


I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was



(Solo)
I know better (repeat) 

Just knowing you, I bet it's true
A point of invitation
Upon this love that gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration,
To choose your steps, I won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

[jameslofton29]

Good work, Dave.

[Vegar]

Man, I LOVE BETTER!!! 

One of my all-time favourite, and I have only heard it for a week.. 

[badapple81]

Better is just so damn perfect! I remember one guy who worked on CD said some of the songs were like fire and ice.. and I guess this is one of those songs.. goes from just beautiful amazing verses to Axl singing the 'Now I know you better ' bit' with so much venom.. then to a chorus which matches up with the eery opening to some hard rock riffing and Axl screaming like it's the end of 'Its So Easy'.. yet after a few listens it flows so nicely.

The opening will catch radio listeners attention too.

If the rest of the album is on par with Better than I will be very happy indeed.

[sandman]

I like the whole song.. even the end where it changes... kinda of goes into a metallica like ending..

i agree. the music is very metallica-like. in fact, it sounds alot like a Fuel (near the end, right before the solo).

i really love this song. it's just phenominal. 

[GNFR1993]

A question for the guitar players amongst you...

Buckethead on Better, from 1:20 to 1:25, is that string skipping or arpegios, or both? I really like that little solo!

I think it's sweep picking arpeggios

Thank GNFNR - suspected as much!

I can't listen to this song without getting fucking emotional....and it gets me fucking dancing too     

[odd1]

A question for the guitar players amongst you...

Buckethead on Better, from 1:20 to 1:25, is that string skipping or arpegios, or both? I really like that little solo!

I think it's sweep picking arpeggios

Yes it is, and hes pretty good at it too!


the best part of the song is towards the end when he sings:
Just knowing you, I bet it's true
A point of invitation
Upon this love that gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You’ll find your inspiration,
To choose your steps, I won't regret
This kind of aggravation

Thats so great, i really love his raspy voice, the melody, the lyrics, its pure brilliance

[Mutherfunker]

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when I longed you'd take me
To break the challenge
That brought me home and all that won't erase me

I'm pretty sure it's:

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it'd take me
To break the charge
That brought me home and all that won't erase me

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better,
Now I know you better

And maybe:

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better,
Never, know you better


Just nitpicking tho.

@#$%Funker

[Woooo!]

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when I longed you'd take me
To break the challenge
That brought me home and all that won't erase me

To break the charge

Just knowing you, I bet it's true
A point of invitation Upon this love that gave you up, with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration,
To choose your steps, I won't regret
This kind of aggravation

If I were you, I'd manage to
Avoid the invitation
Of promised love that can't keep up with your adoration
...
To choose your steps and wont regret
This kind of aggrivation.

Those are the correct lyrics.

[Jim]

W. Axl Kev  has got it almost exactly how I was hearing it.

Dave, you're usually spot on, and I did try but I just couldn't hear what you had as the last verse at all.

It makes so much more sense how this guys got it. 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

W. Axl Kev? has got it almost exactly how I was hearing it.

Dave, you're usually spot on, and I did try but I just couldn't hear what you had as the last verse at all.

It makes so much more sense how this guys got it.?

There are parts of better i could not figure out. Ill check it out? and if i hear it, ill change it.

i agree with

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it'd take me

But I still hear challenge and not charge.
As for the last verse, the other guy nailed it

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Guns N' Roses - Better


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better.


No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better




The hardest part
This troubled heart
Has never yet been through now
We've healed the scars
That got their start
Inside someone like you now

Well had I known
Or I'd been shown back when how long it?d take me
To break the challenge
That brought me home
And all that won't erase me

I never would
Know that I could
No matter what you'd pay me.
Replay the part
You stole my heart
I should have known you're crazy

If all I knew was that with you
I'd want someone to save me
It'd be enough
But just my luck
I fell in love and baby all that I wanted was

Now I know you better
You know I'd know better,
Now I know you better

So bittersweet
This tragedy
Won't ask for absolution
This melody
Inside of me
Still searches for solution
A twist of fate
A change of heart
Kills my infatuation
A broken heart
Provides the spark for my determination

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
Ooh, no one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

All that I wanted was
I know you know you know better
You know I know you know better
Yeah you know me better

(Solo)


I never wanted you to be so full of anger
I never wanted you to be somebody else
I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves
I only wanted you to see things for yourself

All that I wanted was
Now I know you better
Now we all know better
All that I wanted was



(Solo)
I know better (repeat) 

If I were you
I?d manage to
Avoid the invitation
Of promised love that can?t keep up with your adoration
Just use your head and in the end
You?ll find your inspiration,
To choose your steps, and won't regret
This kind of aggravation

No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better
No one ever told me when I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

[KillYourIdols]

I think that the middle verse goes like this:

"So bittersweet this tragedy won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me still searches for solution
A twist of faith, a change of heart cures my infatuation
Of a broken heart to provide the spark for my determination"

[Axl4Prez2004]

I think that the middle verse goes like this:

"So bittersweet this tragedy won't ask for absolution
This melody inside of me still searches for solution
A twist of faith, a change of heart cures my infatuation
Of a broken heart to provide the spark for my determination"

I think Dave's nailed it right above yours KillYourIdols.   

[Steel_Angel]

i love the song. its great i still hope its a demo because i wanna here a better version of this song..but ive now sorta gotten tired of hearing it? ?

[Ulises]

Absolutely Awesome.