"Better" - discuss it in this thread

[ppbebe]

You mean the guys who posted some lyrics claiming them to be of Prostitute and This I love?

[killingvector]

It's only a demo...The transition between the middle part and the rest of the song is awfull...but like I said, it's a demo...I feel like they decide to jam in the middle of the song like they did live with songs like Rocket Queen and the Rap part...

If they keep this part on the final version, they will make a good translation with it to fit in the song...they probably just didn't find the way to do it with this demo...After all, Axl worked on this album for only 12 years One day, he'll find a way to finish this song 

I like the song.

What I don't like is that certain people in this community who came forward as the forebearers of truth, integrity, and openness were hoarding this track for days.

Why is it so hard to share with the community? Why do fans inevitably turn down the road that leads to miserliness?

Unbelievable when I heard about it. Absoluetly pathetic.

This i love and Pros are said to be out there and were gonna leak the other night, i really wonder who has them and is not sharing.

maybe it's all bullshit to put more pressure on axl for him to give us a release date....maybe it's senseless bullshit.

The full Better was out there and members of the community held it back for personal reasons. 

I suspect there is more than what is evident.

We all know how low gunners can sink when they become like that guy suspected of having the 1-1-1 dvd

[RichardNixon]

I don't think it needs reworking. Sounds great, as is.

[mikegiuliana]

When I said I didn't have irs twat or better the pms came flying in with the links, then I did the same for others..

Really suprised with this bunch being they are always dying to spread something new gnr

There is a good chance there are people who have Prostitute and This I love but are hoarding them.

Nice community.

that I know, I know one for sure is floating around...

[badapple81]

killingvector.. unfortunately the GN'R community isn't really known for it's sharing ?

I saw a thread about the full length version start the other day.. seconds later it was gone. I PM'd the poster (who is a very active poster here, regulary looking to find out what's going on and more information) who started it.. who claimed it was just a looped version of the 2:06.. I knew something was going on.

Personally if 2 or 3 people have those clips, I'd prefer they keep them to themselves, I don't want anymore leaks.

[mikegiuliana]

I want the entire fucker to leak... I'm buying my two copies either way..... People holding them are scumbags

[jmapelian]

I want the entire fucker to leak... I'm buying my two copies either way..... People holding them are scumbags

I'm with you about wanting the entire fucker to leak
 
just cause I'm not 100% sure It'll ever be released to buy1, no less 2

[killingvector]

killingvector.. unfortunately the GN'R community isn't really known for it's sharing 

I saw a thread about the full length version start the other day.. seconds later it was gone. I PM'd the poster (who is a very active poster here, regulary looking to find out what's going on and more information) who started it.. who claimed it was just a looped version of the 2:06.. I knew something was going on.

Personally if 2 or 3 people have those clips, I'd prefer they keep them to themselves, I don't want anymore leaks.

I can understand that, but in many ways the people who dealt with the leakers gained that position by representing all of us. I know a few people who comtemplated dealing with the leaker on their own but were recommended by others to hold off so that he would not feel threatened by too many hands in the cookie jar.  For those representives to now hold on to something for themselves reeks of self imposed elitism.

[younggunner]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

[mikegiuliana]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

I honestly don't think the album is coming out as soon as one would think.. has merck or any new guns member even talked about these festival tours as being real?

[echrisl]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush ... or maybe a lot more where GNR is concerned ... I could easily see no album in sight at the end of 2006 and far beyond.  I'd prefer to at least have the demos, and if someone has them and is holding them back so that they can feel important or better than other fans, then that's a chickenshit thing to be doing.

[Wooody]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

again, I agree with younggunner,

as for the gnr community not sharing ? are you nuts ? I have like 4 dvds, more than one demo for every gnr song ever made and thousands of millions (ok not so many) live concerts.... I think only pearl jam beats gnr in sharing....but I don't really like PJ so what do I care ?

[younggunner]

its a different story if theres no release date in sight...but i truly believe that soon is almost the word

[killingvector]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

again, I agree with younggunner,

as for the gnr community not sharing ? are you nuts ? I have like 4 dvds, more than one demo for every gnr song ever made and thousands of millions (ok not so many) live concerts.... I think only pearl jam beats gnr in sharing....but I don't really like PJ so what do I care 

There a several groups of GnR sharers in the community; the Hub is a terrific place to get the meat on the bones, but if you want to talk about the Vault.....

[echrisl]

its a different story if theres no release date in sight...but i truly believe that soon is almost the word

Now ask yourself how long you've been thinking that for ... did I just blow your mind? 

[BLS-Pride]

Soon has lost all meaning for me..

[dave-gnfnr2k]

i disagree...why would u want an entire non finished demo sounding album to leak?

the material will already have an image and opinion before its even heard the way the band wants it to be....

we have half the album now, lets sit back soak those in and get ready for the tour and probably the album release very soon...

again, I agree with younggunner,

as for the gnr community not sharing ? are you nuts ? I have like 4 dvds, more than one demo for every gnr song ever made and thousands of millions (ok not so many) live concerts.... I think only pearl jam beats gnr in sharing....but I don't really like PJ so what do I care ?

You are kidding right. Some traders are hoarding the HOB DVD and the MTV rehearsal DVDs. Those are huge, if this was PJ fans we would have them by now

[badapple81]

Me too younggunner.. I don't think Axl would possibly do these dates without an album.

It seems we are really going to get the album soon. So it's a shame for rough demos to leak so close to release, after these guys have worked so hard all these years working on them.. I feel sorry for them.

I know we don't owe Axl anything and have been waiting all these years too.. but it's just seemingly so close.

Plus negative reviews in the media have already been written because the demos got around. Wait until the finished product to judge. It has been great this last week or so, but no more.

[McClane]

its a different story if theres no release date in sight...but i truly believe that soon is almost the word

I was disapointed so many times in the past...There's alot of up and down in the GNR community...

[younggunner]

thinsg will be a lot clearer {for bette ror for worse} in the next few weeks