Why the HTGTH board isn't 100% dedicated to GN'R ?

[MJ23]

I dont need you to tell me if I am a true GNR fan. I dont like VR, I think VR has nothing to do with GNR (fortunately).
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I am a GNR fan, and I dont like/care about VR... do I qualify as a ''true fan''? 

I agree 100%. Although they have some potential, they did not use it on "Contraband".

I don't need some XXX to tell me I'm not a "true" fan just because I don't like some boring band with three quitters, one nobody and a junkie.

I agree 100% again. As far as the musicians are cocerned they are doing a good job, but again, they could do much more and much better.

Collapse the fucking "Ex-Gunners" section on the main screen if you don't want to read about it, is it really that complicated?

As long as it is a real section on this forum we should leave it there, but those from that section who keep bashing "Guns N' Roses" for not having Slash and all the quitters and fired guys should doe the same: ignore the other sections!!!

[Genesis]

As long as it is a real section on this forum we should leave it there, but those from that section who keep bashing "Guns N' Roses" for not having Slash and all the quitters and fired guys should doe the same: ignore the other sections!!!

As far as I know, most of the people who post in the VR section are GN'R fans as well. There are hardly a few (if any) who come to this board only for VR. It's just some jealous GN'R fans who complain about the VR section. Imagine the uproar when Libertad comes out. 

[badapple81]

I think VR threads can just be posted in the Ex-Gunners section? ? Have a few sticky threads such as an album thread, touring thread and a news thread.

[AxlsMainMan]

I couldn't care less.

If I dont want to read about Velvet Revolver, I dont go to that section.

 

Problem solved.

[Genesis]

I couldn't care less.

If I dont want to read about Velvet Revolver, I dont go to that section.

Problem solved.

Apparently, that concept is too difficult for some people to grasp.

[estebanf]

I couldn't care less.

If I dont want to read about Velvet Revolver, I dont go to that section.

Problem solved.

Apparently, that concept is too difficult for some people to grasp.

Its not difficult, but it is also not fair. Why? Give me a good explanation/argument why VR needs to have a special section? What has VR got to do with GNR? Why do you think VR is MORE related to GNR than... Ted Andreadis' Zen Cruisers? Is VR better or greater than Nine Inch Nails? Not a chance.

I can perfectly avoid/ignore reading VR news/articles. But why a special section? With your point of view, let's allow a porn section here because we are all able to ignore it...

VR has got NOTHING to do with GNR. More than that, the 2 GNR quitters tried to stop GNR's career (and failed, luckily) and VR's singer has his 5 minutes of fame from time to time when he talks shit about Axl.

No more privileges to VR in my opinion. It doesnt deserves them.

[Genesis]

Its not difficult, but it is also not fair. Why? Give me a good explanation/argument why VR needs to have a special section? What has VR got to do with GNR? Why do you think VR is MORE related to GNR than... Ted Andreadis' Zen Cruisers? Is VR better or greater than Nine Inch Nails? Not a chance.

This argument has been made a hundred times and you still don't get it. It's simple. VR has 3 ex GN'R members, whom unlike you and others, a significant number of members of this board happen to like. If you can't see the relevance, then you just don't want to.

But why a special section?

Since this is the primary board that a lot of members visit and we would like to be able to discuss VR as well. Everything GN'R related in one place. I'm aware there are other VR boards, that's not the point.

With your point of view, let's allow a porn section here because we are all able to ignore it...

Sure, if Jarmo wants and I for one would not ignore it. 

VR has got NOTHING to do with GNR. More than that, the 2 GNR quitters tried to stop GNR's career (and failed, luckily) and VR's singer has his 5 minutes of fame from time to time when he talks shit about Axl.

Big deal. Everybody is aware of the history between the two groups. Axl has had his fair share of pot shots too. Why should you care? Keep it about the music.


The bottom line is about respecting what other members of the board want too. It's not just about what you would like.

[Jim Bob]

The bottom line is about respecting what other members of the board want too. It's not just about what you would like.

what about respect for GnR and not for those who have been suing axl constantly and talking shit in the media?

[monkeychow]

The bottom line is about respecting what other members of the board want too. It's not just about what you would like.

what about respect for GnR and not for those who have been suing axl constantly and talking shit in the media?

Thats just the point. The "fight" between Axl and any VR guys is a personal dispute between them and nothing to do with us fans of both/either bands.

I think Slash and co deserve some respect because they made a significant contribution to what GNR has achieved in the past, that makes them relevant somehere on the board, and I'd say its better to have the VR section than post news of that kind in the actual current-GNR section.

[Jim Bob]

The bottom line is about respecting what other members of the board want too. It's not just about what you would like.

what about respect for GnR and not for those who have been suing axl constantly and talking shit in the media?

Thats just the point. The "fight" between Axl and any VR guys is a personal dispute between them and nothing to do with us fans of both/either bands.

I think Slash and co deserve some respect because they made a significant contribution to what GNR has achieved in the past, that makes them relevant somehere on the board, and I'd say its better to have the VR section than post news of that kind in the actual current-GNR section.

or maybe in the ex-members section.

[Africa]

I couldn't care less.

If I dont want to read about Velvet Revolver, I dont go to that section.

Problem solved.

Apparently, that concept is too difficult for some people to grasp.

Its not difficult, but it is also not fair. Why? Give me a good explanation/argument why VR needs to have a special section? What has VR got to do with GNR? Why do you think VR is MORE related to GNR than... Ted Andreadis' Zen Cruisers? Is VR better or greater than Nine Inch Nails? Not a chance.

I can perfectly avoid/ignore reading VR news/articles. But why a special section? With your point of view, let's allow a porn section here because we are all able to ignore it...

VR has got NOTHING to do with GNR. More than that, the 2 GNR quitters tried to stop GNR's career (and failed, luckily) and VR's singer has his 5 minutes of fame from time to time when he talks shit about Axl.

No more privileges to VR in my opinion. It doesnt deserves them.

You're 100% right in everything you say in this post, they don't deserve their own section here at all. I respect Jarmo's decisions since this is his board, but in my personal opinion a VR section on a GN'R board is insulting to Guns N' Roses (not saying at all that Jarmo is insulting Guns N' Roses by having it here, simply saying that the VR section have no place on a Guns N' Roses board). Slash and Duff have done nothing whatsoever for GN'R in over ten years, and frankly I don't have an interest in either of them anymore, I'm here for Guns N' Roses, not Slash and Duff. And before some smart-ass argues that they have everything to do with Guns N' Roses, they don't. Not at present day, at all. And also, before anyone argues that "you wouldn't be here if it weren't for them!", yes I would. I appreciate what they did for the band in the past, but I don't really care about them anymore, I'm here for the new band. And it's not like you would find a GN'R section at a VR board, just like VR got no place on a Guns N' Roses board.

[Gunna_girl01]

we are not 100% dedicated to gnr because we're not obsessed....

why dont you like my threads in the jungle    jus fukin around.. i no ya's lov me .. u love me for ma body

[NicoRourke]

Thats just the point. The "fight" between Axl and any VR guys is a personal dispute between them and nothing to do with us fans of both/either bands.

It's not personal when you spill it in the media. If Weiland & Co. wants to keep it personal, than shut your mouth when asked by a TV journalist.

This is a GN'R board, I shouldn't have to bother ignoring a VR section.

I thought we were supposed to give the band all the support we can, that's the point of this site in 2007, no ?

[badapple81]

VR was good to keep people going through a quiet patch. I think now Slash has said there will be no more GN'R songs in the set, and GN'R are back on a world tour and most of the hype is back on GN'R - it seems sensinble to make the board GN'R dedicated and have a sticky thread or two in the Ex-Gunners section 

[Jim Bob]

VR was good to keep people going through a quiet patch. I think now Slash has said there will be no more GN'R songs in the set, and GN'R are back on a world tour and most of the hype is back on GN'R - it seems sensinble to make the board GN'R dedicated and have a sticky thread or two in the Ex-Gunners section 

really one thread is all it would require.  The VR thread.

[CheapJon]

really one thread is all it would require.? The VR thread.

I wonder what would happen if someone started it in bad obsession

[AdZ]

The whiners would whine?

[CheapJon]

The whiners would whine?

so u mean no mod would smite me and lock it and direct me to the VR section?

[AdZ]

I'd probably do that, too.

[Jim Bob]

The whiners would whine?

as long as it stayed in the VR thread it wouldn't hurt anything.