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« on: March 07, 2007, 03:46:49 PM »

well, all the talk about "is the democracy worth the wait" got me thinking about something.
let's see what Trent did since '93.

The Downward Spiral
The Fragile
With Teeth
and now Year Zero

+2/3 DVD releases, and live albums, remixes,... etc, etc.


these albums are packed with great songs, almost no fillers at all...
if Trent made a best of 94-07... it would be something unbelievable.
does anyone here (still) think that no matter how great CD is, it is worth the wait?
I'd like to believe so... but logic taught me differently...
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 03:47:55 PM »

With Teeth has no filler?
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 03:54:18 PM »

Collector, Hand That Feeds, Every Day Is Exactly The Same, Only, Sunspots ,Beside You In Time, and especially  Right Where It Belongs are awesome songs!!!

I cant say about Year0, but the leaks I've heard are encouraging.

and fragile is a double album.
UYI's had more fillers than it, and they were almost filler-less.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 03:56:19 PM »

I skip Sunspots...that was the first NIN song I specifically don't like.  Everything else is great.  Especially BYIT and RWIB.  Great way to end an album.




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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 03:58:07 PM »

NiN has also released stuff that I don't like that much.

But I agree with you that if I put all the songs of NiN that I like on one CD it would be amazing.

If Axl and co were really hard at work all those years it feels kinda disappointing that the leaks aren't anything earth shattering. I mean, I like most of the new songs.. but I don't think they are amazing.

Of everything I've heard so far, the psychedelic solo on the 20th of december sounded the most promising (the one were Axl talks about pills). It sounded refreshing.. something I still hope CD will be, but I'm still sceptical. We'll have to wait and see..
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 03:58:42 PM »

didnt Nine Inch Nails support Guns N Roses in England back in 1991, think that settles the better band question right there hihi although i must confess NIN were prob not at their peak at the time. Come to think about it, would Robin Finck have played with them at the time, would have made him the only future member of GNR to have supported the original lineup?
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 03:59:20 PM »

I hope not.
(thanks adz for not moving it)
sunspots and right where it belongs are 2 of my favorites.
but back on topic people.
how do GNR and NIN compare in this duel?
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 03:59:33 PM »

Trent Reznor is perhaps a musical genious, and has been called "Prince's alter ego". He essentially writes and plays everything. ?Axl may be the creative force in Guns, but the band as a whole contributes to the material. ?Don't think ?it is a fair comparison.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 04:00:50 PM »

Well it should just be put into the right drawers... Trent has done some amazing things and yes Y0 sounds great for what I have heard up to now. Axl has not yet done some amazing things, but yes CD is worth the wait at least for me.

It is an EMO-TION-AL thing for me to listen to BETTER in my car while driving to shitty work.

And yes I still think Axl Rose was Marilyn Manson from 1994 - 2002/3  hihi ...
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 04:01:25 PM »

didnt Nine Inch Nails support Guns N Roses in England back in 1991, think that settles the better band question right there hihi although i must confess NIN were prob not at their peak at the time. Come to think about it, would Robin Finck have played with them at the time, would have made him the only future member of GNR to have supported the original lineup?

GNR did a fair share of supporting as well... to RHCP, Maiden etc etc... does that mean that they are better? I think not.
And yes, I think finck played back then.
Matt said that that after seeing NIN play that he suggested to Axl to get Finck for his new project.


Well it should just be put into the right drawers... Trent has done some amazing things and yes Y0 sounds great for what I have heard up to now. Axl has not yet done some amazing things, but yes CD is worth the wait at least for me.

It is an EMO-TION-AL thing for me to listen to BETTER in my car while driving to shitty work.

And yes I still think Axl Rose was Marilyn Manson from 1994 - 2002/3  hihi ...

well, I wouldnt do any work as well, if I was banging mrs ditta von tesse.


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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 04:03:12 PM »

well, all the talk about "is the democracy worth the wait" got me thinking about something.
let's see what Trent did since '93.

The Downward Spiral
The Fragile
With Teeth
and now Year Zero

+2/3 DVD releases, and live albums, remixes,... etc, etc.


these albums are packed with great songs, almost no fillers at all...
if Trent made a best of 94-07... it would be something unbelievable.
does anyone here (still) think that no matter how great CD is, it is worth the wait?
I'd like to believe so... but logic taught me differently...


Nothing this long is worth the wait.  I was 11 when Use Illusions came out I'm 27 now.  That sucks.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2007, 04:05:14 PM »

The Fragile is awesome in every sense of the word.

With Teeth sucked big dick.  Trent can do much better.  Hopefully with this new release he will.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 04:07:00 PM »

Nine inch who?
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 04:07:17 PM »

GN'R doesn't compare to anybody, that's why were here and not on some other band's board.

There's a lot of great music out there, but I don't know why you have to compare art to other art.

Either you like it or you don't.

Some art you like for a different reason than other.



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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 04:08:15 PM »

GN'R doesn't compare to anybody, that's why were here and not on some other band's board.

There's a lot of great music out there, but I don't know why you have to compare art to other art.

Either you like it or you don't.

Some art you like for a different reason than other.



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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2007, 04:14:14 PM »

Trent Reznor is perhaps a musical genious, and has been called "Prince's alter ego". He essentially writes and plays everything.  Axl may be the creative force in Guns, but the band as a whole contributes to the material.  Don't think  it is a fair comparison.

so you are saying that altough Trent does everything alone, and Axl has had 15 musicians working for him, its not a fair comparison?
of course it's not, and yet trent manages to pull of all the thing he does ALONE.

GN'R doesn't compare to anybody, that's why were here and not on some other band's board.

There's a lot of great music out there, but I don't know why you have to compare art to other art.

Either you like it or you don't.

Some art you like for a different reason than other.



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I'm not comparing art, but "productivity".
even if they both are great/on the same level, quantitatively trent beats GNR (well maybe not BH hihi)
and why I started this thread is because after all this years I still have nothing to compare no , and am getting into a pessimistic mode.
even tough I knew march 6th was a fairy tail ever since I read about it, I was expecting/hoping for a pre-summer release, but there's no certainty about it.
especially with the the "south" tours starting in 4 weeks, and album yet unfinished/sceudled.

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 04:15:40 PM »

well said Jarmo!

i personally like both bands, but i don't want to fall into comparing them, i'm still as eager for CD as i am now for Year Zero, and i've been waiting for CD for much longer! so i guess GN'R never dies for me, it's an ongoing obsession hehe
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 04:16:31 PM »

Chinese Democracy will be worth the wait for me, because I'm not sitting around waiting for it.  Lots of great music came out in the past 11 years.  More great music will come out before CD does drop.  Plenty of ammo for my stereo.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 04:16:46 PM »

NIN vs Gn'R

NIN have released more material, so I guess they win on that level. NIN have got better and better since day one. Their latest album with_teeth is amazing. Gn'R on the other hand peaked with AFD, then dipped with UYI, dipped further with TSI and then released a live album. Guess we'll have to wait and see what CD offers  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2007, 04:20:16 PM »

so .... what's your point ?

Nine Inch Nails is the best band in the world ? yeah WE know. thanks.

what's next ? Slash is a genius ? Yes. WE know.
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