Nasty little GNR mention in Houston Chronicle

[Wooody]

why is liberal bandied about in america as if its an insult?

"lib?er?al (l?b'?r-?l, l?b'r?l) pronunciation
adj.

? ?1.
? ? ? ? ?1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
? ? ? ? ?2. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
? ? ? ? ?3. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
? ? ? ? ?4. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States."

how are those bad traits?

anyways back to your post, why are you turning this into something political?? some critics dislike Axl and the new Guns N' Roses, and some critics are appreciative of them; frankly it seems irrelevant to me that this writer is a member of the "liberal" media. He's just someone who dislikes the band and Mr Rose, regardless of his political agenda

hahahah that is very funny.

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Arcade Fire suck, dont make me laugh, at least the members of Guns N' Roses know how to use their dicks

Wow. I'd insult you but you do it better yourself. Listen to No Cars Go by Arcade Fire, then listen to Shotgun Blues. Though judging your dick comment you'll likely miss my point.

Statements like that make me think of the stereotypical 1 dimensional GN'R fan that only listens to GN'R, Metallica and Megadeth. Try listening to something outside your comfort zone, you may be surprised.

My favorite bands:

GN'R
Menomena
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Nirvana
Regina Spektor
Wolf Parade

I'm 32 but I am not stuck in the late 80's early 90's.

[justynius]

Oh, and Wynton Marsalis, whose From the Plantation to the Penitentiary is ambitious and bold and critical of racism as well as hip-hop culture.

Haha.... that's the best name for an album ever 

[bigbri]

Arcade Fire suck, dont make me laugh, at least the members of Guns N' Roses know how to use their dicks

Wow. I'd insult you but you do it better yourself. Listen to No Cars Go by Arcade Fire, then listen to Shotgun Blues. Though judging your dick comment you'll likely miss my point.

Statements like that make me think of the stereotypical 1 dimensional GN'R fan that only listens to GN'R, Metallica and Megadeth. Try listening to something outside your comfort zone, you may be surprised.

My favorite bands:

GN'R
Menomena
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Nirvana
Regina Spektor
Wolf Parade

I'm 32 but I am not stuck in the late 80's early 90's.

I like your post. A lot of GNR fans are mostly close minded. Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Arcade Fire is very talented and pretty original in what they're doing. Not sure what their dicks have to do with it. Just because you always have yours in your hand doesn't mean squat.

Regina Spektor's new CD is pretty good. Just got it, and Lily Allen.

You gotta have your eyes open to find new music nowadays. Can't rely on MTV and radio to help you.

Fact is, the Houston Chronicle article is probably closer to the truth than people here care to realize.

[Oh My Choking Soul]

Arcade Fire suck, dont make me laugh, at least the members of Guns N' Roses know how to use their dicks

Wow. I'd insult you but you do it better yourself. Listen to No Cars Go by Arcade Fire, then listen to Shotgun Blues. Though judging your dick comment you'll likely miss my point.

Statements like that make me think of the stereotypical 1 dimensional GN'R fan that only listens to GN'R, Metallica and Megadeth. Try listening to something outside your comfort zone, you may be surprised.

My favorite bands:

GN'R
Menomena
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Nirvana
Regina Spektor
Wolf Parade

I'm 32 but I am not stuck in the late 80's early 90's.

I like your post. A lot of GNR fans are mostly close minded. Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Arcade Fire is very talented and pretty original in what they're doing. Not sure what their dicks have to do with it. Just because you always have yours in your hand doesn't mean squat.

Regina Spektor's new CD is pretty good. Just got it, and Lily Allen.

You gotta have your eyes open to find new music nowadays. Can't rely on MTV and radio to help you.

Fact is, the Houston Chronicle article is probably closer to the truth than people here care to realize.

Thanks, sounds like we have similar tastes. I just found Final Fantasy and think he is great, and Joanna Newsom's Ys and instantly fell in love with her. She looks like a pixie.

[freedom78]

and who the fuck said GNR is Conservative?
I think not.
I know Tommy doesn't like Bush, I heard it from his own mouth, I know Robin doesn't like him either.

Axl likes to remain ambiguous but he doesn't strike me as being conservative at all......his roots may be from a redneck environment but I don't think that qualifies as conservative, at least we know he's anti-war.

Excuse me, asshole, but I'm from that same "redneck environment."  Thanks for making assumptions about where I'm from and the type of people who live there.       

[Danny]

Let's all keep in mind that this article came from the HOUSTON Chronicle.

[freedom78]

I haven't actually heard of any of the artists mentioned in the article, as I'm gloriously out of touch with new music. 

[Wooody]

Arcade Fire suck, dont make me laugh, at least the members of Guns N' Roses know how to use their dicks

Wow. I'd insult you but you do it better yourself. Listen to No Cars Go by Arcade Fire, then listen to Shotgun Blues. Though judging your dick comment you'll likely miss my point.

Statements like that make me think of the stereotypical 1 dimensional GN'R fan that only listens to GN'R, Metallica and Megadeth. Try listening to something outside your comfort zone, you may be surprised.

My favorite bands:

GN'R
Menomena
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Nirvana
Regina Spektor
Wolf Parade

I'm 32 but I am not stuck in the late 80's early 90's.

I like your post. A lot of GNR fans are mostly close minded. Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Arcade Fire is very talented and pretty original in what they're doing. Not sure what their dicks have to do with it. Just because you always have yours in your hand doesn't mean squat.

Regina Spektor's new CD is pretty good. Just got it, and Lily Allen.

You gotta have your eyes open to find new music nowadays. Can't rely on MTV and radio to help you.

Fact is, the Houston Chronicle article is probably closer to the truth than people here care to realize.

Im a fan of the artists you just mentioned but you can't put those indy artists on the same page as guns n' roses. Joanna Newsom can sing about killing her dinner with karate all she wants but she's never going to fill arenas..

So good for you if you like indy bands doing true art, but don't put them in the same sentence with commercial bands like Nirvana or GNR (commercial is not always a bad thing by the way, sometimes its a synonym for 'universal')

[Derby Greg]

Arcade Fire suck, dont make me laugh, at least the members of Guns N' Roses know how to use their dicks

Wow. I'd insult you but you do it better yourself. Listen to No Cars Go by Arcade Fire, then listen to Shotgun Blues. Though judging your dick comment you'll likely miss my point.

Statements like that make me think of the stereotypical 1 dimensional GN'R fan that only listens to GN'R, Metallica and Megadeth. Try listening to something outside your comfort zone, you may be surprised.

My favorite bands:

GN'R
Menomena
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Nirvana
Regina Spektor
Wolf Parade

I'm 32 but I am not stuck in the late 80's early 90's.

I like your post. A lot of GNR fans are mostly close minded. Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Arcade Fire is very talented and pretty original in what they're doing. Not sure what their dicks have to do with it. Just because you always have yours in your hand doesn't mean squat.

Regina Spektor's new CD is pretty good. Just got it, and Lily Allen.

You gotta have your eyes open to find new music nowadays. Can't rely on MTV and radio to help you.

Fact is, the Houston Chronicle article is probably closer to the truth than people here care to realize.

Excellent succession of posts.

Totally agree with going beyond MTV and radio to get decent music. People cummon, there is so much good stuff out there - you just need to open your eyes. I find lots of great music through music blogs for example. I think we are really in a great position with regards new artists. never has there been such a chance to go it alone and get your music to the people - how many bands are now being broken on the net for example.

Just because Arcade Fire aren't your cup of tea doesn't mean they flat out suck! If you dont like them than thats your bag but I second the comment that these are totally different times to the late 80's, early 90s. Step outside your comfort zone - you can love all genres of music.

-Greg

[25]

how are those bad traits?

Didn't you read the first definition?  "Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry." That's like kryptonite to a conservative. Remove the words "Not" and "free from" and it's a pretty accurate description of the fly-over states. And that's not meant to be a witticism, just criticism.

[25]

Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Wynton Marsalis has helped to set the progress of jazz back by about five decades. He's a good horn player in the classical tradition but to single him out as "one of the best jazz artists alive" is absurd.

[bigbri]

Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Wynton Marsalis has helped to set the progress of jazz back by about five decades. He's a good horn player in the classical tradition but to single him out as "one of the best jazz artists alive" is absurd.

A lot of people agree with my statement, probably more than agree with yours.

[The Chad Cometh]

5 bands mentioned in that article and 3 of them are "gloomy" and one is "dreamy". 
Do we really care what this guy thinks?

[25]

A lot of people agree with my statement, probably more than agree with yours.

Quite possibly. Marsalis is a good trumpet player and an impressive composer, and his traditionalist approach combined with those aspects has made him very popular. However, his elitist and selective attitude towards jazz' history and accomplishments limits both his potential and the value of his contributions to jazz. Worse still, he likes to spread that poisonous viewpoint and disparage the many true jazz greats who pushed the form forwards from the 1960s onward. I'm sure he still has a very strong following and many, many people rightfully enjoy his music. But if it's all been done before and he intends it to always remain as it was then regardless of how "great" a musician he may be, and despite his many fine contributions to traditional 40s/50s jazz style, he can hardly be called a "great" amongst contemporary jazz musicians.  That may be a minority viewpoint among the buying public and jazz traditionalists but they're the same people who were determined that free, avante and fusion weren't even music, let alone jazz music.

[SLCPUNK]

I'm a liberal and I love GN'R.

Btw, a lot of pro-Bush Nascar loving hicks wont support Axl's new album because "Axl killed the old band and it doesn't sound like AFD."

I don't think it's a debate between liberal or conservative GNR fans.  It's about the vast majority of music critics that chastise any music because it in't anti-Bush.  For some reason right now, music has to be anti-Bush for music critics to like it.

Why are you even still here ? You phony.

Go check your fax machine.

[Communist China]

I haven't actually heard of any of the artists mentioned in the article, as I'm gloriously out of touch with new music.?

You've never heard of Wynton Marsalis?

[Communist China]

Wynton Marsalis is one of the best jazz artists alive, so a lot of people would rather pick up his CD Tuesday than GNR's.

Wynton Marsalis has helped to set the progress of jazz back by about five decades. He's a good horn player in the classical tradition but to single him out as "one of the best jazz artists alive" is absurd.

You wouldn't expect the leader of Ellington productions to be exactly cutting edge, and there's no problems with that. The 70s, 80s and 90s were bad years for jazz, with very few superb records emerging then. Marsalis is as talented as they come, even if I disgaree with his views on jazz culture.

[novemberparadise23]

that statment in the chronicle is a joke
the guy dumps on gnr and then praises good charlotte in the same paragraph