The Red Hot Chili Peppers thread

[Alan]

oh and steve vai got rejected by zappa. so that shows the standards required to get into his band.

I'm no expert on Zappa, but it sounds like if Steve Vai was rejected by him, it only shows that pure guitar skill wasn't the only factor he was thinking about, and that there were other aspects involved.

he just told him he wasn't good enough, and to go and transcribe classical music by ear, he did it came back and was accepted.

[mrlee]

mrlee, if you think frusciante sucks as a guitar player sorry but you know NOTHING about guitar playing at all, he's easily  one of the most talented guitar players alive today.

the simple fact that he was considered good enough to play for frank zappa shows this. john decided against it due to zappa having a policy on being sober. oh and steve vai got rejected by zappa. so that shows the standards required to get into his band.

anyone like Frusciante's new bald look?

he shaves his head roughly every 2 years.

well if hes that talented why does he do some of the most boring and, possibly by the guitar solos ive heard from many bands, some of the most simple solos from a band to come from out of the 80s and progress through to now.

[Alan]

mrlee, if you think frusciante sucks as a guitar player sorry but you know NOTHING about guitar playing at all, he's easily  one of the most talented guitar players alive today.

the simple fact that he was considered good enough to play for frank zappa shows this. john decided against it due to zappa having a policy on being sober. oh and steve vai got rejected by zappa. so that shows the standards required to get into his band.

anyone like Frusciante's new bald look?

he shaves his head roughly every 2 years.

well if hes that talented why does he do some of the most boring and, possibly by the guitar solos ive heard from many bands, some of the most simple solos from a band to come from out of the 80s and progress through to now.

because he doesn't feel the need to put self indulgent long winded overly technical guitar solos into a song which requires somthing simple, he plays what is right for the song not just to show off, yet another reason why he's one of the greatest guitarists alive today.

"less is more"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTTfBnCVoI

[WeHeldTogether]

Blood Sugar Sex Magik was such a funky, innovative, wonderful album.? So, because of what they're CAPABLE of doing, I always give a new RHCP album a spin...and all the new ones tend to suck big balls.? Where did all that style and attitude go?? ?

I think its because they're older.  They aren't the sex-obsessed young kids they once were anymore haha.

[mrlee]

mrlee, if you think frusciante sucks as a guitar player sorry but you know NOTHING about guitar playing at all, he's easily  one of the most talented guitar players alive today.

the simple fact that he was considered good enough to play for frank zappa shows this. john decided against it due to zappa having a policy on being sober. oh and steve vai got rejected by zappa. so that shows the standards required to get into his band.

anyone like Frusciante's new bald look?

he shaves his head roughly every 2 years.

well if hes that talented why does he do some of the most boring and, possibly by the guitar solos ive heard from many bands, some of the most simple solos from a band to come from out of the 80s and progress through to now.

because he doesn't feel the need to put self indulgent long winded overly technical guitar solos into a song which requires somthing simple, he plays what is right for the song not just to show off, yet another reason why he's one of the greatest guitarists alive today.

"less is more"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTTfBnCVoI

solos arnt about showing off unless your steve vai.

[WeHeldTogether]

^Then why did you say it was stupid that his solos are simple?  You basically just contradicted yourself; solos don't have to be fast and complex all of the time.  However i guess that's some people's cup o' tea.

[Alan]

just got the stadium arcadium tab book, it comes with the actual guitar and bass tracks from the album.

it's awesome hearing the songs without drums or vocals.

and snow is a bitch to play

[mrlee]

^Then why did you say it was stupid that his solos are simple?  You basically just contradicted yourself; solos don't have to be fast and complex all of the time.  However i guess that's some people's cup o' tea.

you were saying anyone who likes to do a full blown solo is showing off which is "what makes john so great".

i said doing solos isnt showing off. id much rather hear an epic slash solo, then a crappy 4 note repeated peice of crap for emotion.

[Alan]

a guitar solo should compliment the song, that is what i'm saying, whats the point of tearing off at 100mph for a song that is slow paced and chilled out. there isn't one, it doesn't add anything in particular.

however when it's required john is perfectly capable of tearing off. for example turn it again on stadium arcadium.

[D]

just got the stadium arcadium tab book, it comes with the actual guitar and bass tracks from the album.

it's awesome hearing the songs without drums or vocals.

and snow is a bitch to play

I never play or try to learn cover songs, but I am actually gonna go buy the SA Tab tomorrow so I can learn a bunch of these.

[Alan]

good luck with snow, it sounds so simple but it's fucking annoying

[WARose]

john frusciante is one of my favourite guitar players....

listen to his solo records before you judge him

[Casey Shelton]

I never used to like them.  My girlfriend wanted Stadium Arcadium for Christmas so I got it for her.  Thank god because it is amazing.  I love the guitar playing throughout it.  Phenominal.  Makes me want to finally learn how to play the guitar.

[D]

I've had Blood sugar Sex Magik for a few weeks and Its a great album don't get me wrong but I thnk its overrated.

I would rank it  3rd, just ahead of Californication.

ByThe Way and Stadium Arcadium are far superior albums.



The hits off BSSM are more memorable than the hits off BTW or SA but I think BTW and SA are way deeper and emotional.


After the hits on BSSM the other songs are ok, nothing extremely special whereas every song on SA and BTW are excellent and really resonate with me.


I guess the reason BSSM is considered the greatest is due to signature songs like Under The Bridge and Give It Away but personally I'll take Snow over it and Under The Bridge is great but Ill take Venice Queen, Desecration Smile and Wet Sand over it.

I think what makes BTW and SA better records is just the growth of Anthony Kiedis. His lyrics are kind of juvenile and his melodies are ok on BSSM whereas on BTW and SA he is so emotional and deep plus his vocals have improved tremendously.

Frusiciante's guitar is also better on SA as he has elevated his playing to a brand new level.

So ranking them I would put:

1. By The Way
2. Stadium ARcadium
3. Blood Sugar Sex Magik
4. Californication.

[freedom78]

You all seem to love Stadium Arcadium so much, that I'm convinced to give it another chance. 

I've had Blood sugar Sex Magik for a few weeks and Its a great album don't get me wrong but I thnk its overrated.

I would rank it  3rd, just ahead of Californication.

ByThe Way and Stadium Arcadium are far superior albums.

The hits off BSSM are more memorable than the hits off BTW or SA but I think BTW and SA are way deeper and emotional.

After the hits on BSSM the other songs are ok, nothing extremely special whereas every song on SA and BTW are excellent and really resonate with me.

I guess the reason BSSM is considered the greatest is due to signature songs like Under The Bridge and Give It Away but personally I'll take Snow over it and Under The Bridge is great but Ill take Venice Queen, Desecration Smile and Wet Sand over it.

I think what makes BTW and SA better records is just the growth of Anthony Kiedis. His lyrics are kind of juvenile and his melodies are ok on BSSM whereas on BTW and SA he is so emotional and deep plus his vocals have improved tremendously.

I've always really enjoyed the non-hits on BSSM.  Apache Rose Peacock, Naked in the Rain, Mellowship Slinky...they're not the hits, but I truly believe that the "filler" of an album is what makes it great or very typical.  Most albums have a hit or two or three, but the filler is complete garbage.  I love GNR's "filler", and the BSSM filler is something I enjoy, as well.  I haven't listened to By the Way, as I kind of lost interest after Californication, when they really started going in a new direction.  But, this USED to be one of my favorite bands, so they're worth another chance...if it doesn't take, I'll always have that Sex Magik! 

[D]

there is no filler on By The Way or Stadium Arcadium. All the songs are really good.

The difference is, whereas on BSSM u have Under the Bridge and Give It Away which are considered 10's, On BTW and SA every song is like an 8. I'll take an album where u have 28, 8's over an album where u have a couple 10's and then the rest range anywhere from 5 to 8.

I like the songs that are considered filler on BSSM but they dont compare to the songs that are considered filler on BTW and SA. So as far as singles go, sure I can see why people would prefer BSSM, but when it comes to the non hits, I just think BTW and SA destroy BSSM.


There are really no 10's as far as mainstream


To me there are a bunch of 10's, but Im speaking of the general music public.

[Alan]

Frusiciante's guitar is also better on SA as he has elevated his playing to a brand new level.

So ranking them I would put:

1. By The Way
2. Stadium ARcadium
3. Blood Sugar Sex Magik
4. Californication.

wow, you're one of the few people i've seen rank BTW above californication. i'm still not that impressed with by the way, can't really pin point why, but there is something about it that just doesn't click with me. though there are some great tracks on it, venice queen for example which i was fortunate enough to see them play live. 

[mrlee]

I've had Blood sugar Sex Magik for a few weeks and Its a great album don't get me wrong but I thnk its overrated.

I would rank it  3rd, just ahead of Californication.

ByThe Way and Stadium Arcadium are far superior albums.

Im sorry but i cant agree, the funk over powers me on blood sugar, also i preffer mothers milk over anything post blood sugar, they just tame down and slow up.

californications alright though, i love the intro track, its stoned out on the chorus.

by the way has too much filler sadly.

stadium...sucks.

[Lisa]

don't mean to change the subject but has anyone read Scar Tissue yet? I got it for Christmas and almost finished it....it is very well done and a very good read. Anyone who really likes RHCP I suggest getting it..holds alot of insight into their writing and production.

[freedom78]

don't mean to change the subject but has anyone read Scar Tissue yet? I got it for Christmas and almost finished it....it is very well done and a very good read. Anyone who really likes RHCP I suggest getting it..holds alot of insight into their writing and production.

I'm not familiar with it, but no WAY it beats "The Dirt."